housekeeping question

i am not sure that a new thread is the appropriate place to ask this question but...well...lacking much sophistication in the WoV welt, i guess that is just what i am doing...plus i figure sucha tact will at least get some "views"...lol

anyway yesterday i received an email from WoV that said, "You have just a received a new private message at the Wizard of Vegas forums." with a link to my Inbox...when i clicked on the link, sure enough, there were my old messages intact but a "new private message" was nowhere to be found...

so my question is: was this justa glitch or does one have the capability to withdraw or delete a PM once sent? If so, that is perfectly fine but i am wondering what's happened here, lest i am missing something important...

thanks for any help,
tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
-g. geist: you may be missing something, but i guarantee you it is not "important"...
--tom p: yah, i'm sure you're right there

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i am not sure that a new thread is the appropriate place to ask this question but...well...lacking much sophistication in the WoV welt, i guess that is just what i am doing...plus i figure sucha tact will at least get some "views"...lol

anyway yesterday i received an email from WoV that said, "You have just a received a new private message at the Wizard of Vegas forums." with a link to my Inbox...when i clicked on the link, sure enough, there were my old messages intact but a "new private message" was nowhere to be found...

so my question is: was this justa glitch or does one have the capability to withdraw or delete a PM once sent? If so, that is perfectly fine but i am wondering what's happened here, lest i am missing something important...

thanks for any help,
tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
-g. geist: you may be missing something, but i guarantee you it is not "important"...
--tom p: yah, i'm sure you're right there

Before the forum reset last month, the answer was, sent is sent. If the person who sent it deleted it, it remained in the recipient's inbox, read or unread. I do not know if that has changed, but it seems hard to believe a sender could reach into a recipient's inbox and delete something, even if they sent it.

The system could be setup in that way, BBB, where if the sender deletes a sent PM it'll get erased from the reader's inbox. Of course, this would be the result of a logical design flaw.

Would also occur if someone manually deleted the message in the database (ie: an admin who can login to the database). I don't know (or think) anyone [admin-wise] is reviewing PMs...but there is a chance that happened, admin didn't like it, and deleted it. But of course, the e-mail would have already been sent out.


Are you sure that e-mail address is setup with the account you checked? Perhaps you setup an account with that email, didn't use the account, came back a few months later, setup a new account with some random email address...and now your old account [using your main e-mail] got some PM [perhaps by a spambot]...and voila!

Other question is this: Was the email recent? I've found myself in situations before like this where I might check my email, perhaps look in a different folder, and find an e-mail [like the one you got], thinking it's new but it's really from a while ago.

Speaking of housekeeping,
Seems to be 10 pages or so of new threads this AM in some odd language.
Might be Mongolian or French or something ;-)

It's Korean. Those spammers' names should not be left on the member list. They should be wiped out completely. Its just another thing that causes people to question this site. It does not look good.

It appears that the forum has been under attack for five hours or more and the problem continues. There are 8 or more pages of mostly spambot crap. Any time you have that, anyone new who happens along will not bother to stay and people will begin to worry about the security of the site.

I'm no computer expert but shouldn't there be safeguards against these spammers? Perhaps some type of early warning system to the administrators, secret administrators or key personnel? Some type of block? Do other sites have this problem?

Does anyone wonder who these people are? Are they sinister looking beady eyed men replete with black hat, pencil thin mustache and cigarette holder? Maybe the proverbial teen in mom and dad's basement? Are they being compensated or just having fun at someone's expense?

I'd like to hear from them. English please.

Quote: RS

The system could be setup in that way, BBB, where if the sender deletes a sent PM it'll get erased from the reader's inbox. Of course, this would be the result of a logical design flaw.

oh, no, RS, not at all (necessarily) a "design flaw"... many proprietary email systems have just such a feature intentionally engineered into them, along with such things as the ability to see if your sent email was opened etc....the protocol on, for example, sites like this could easily be set up similarly...

but i meant to say first, thanks all for the replies and ideas...i did check the things suggested: this was an email sent on 9/4/15 to the only email address that i use and double-checked it is the one i have on file for this site...

the whole thing is more a curiosity than it is a big deal...

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I'm no computer expert but shouldn't there be safeguards against these spammers? Perhaps some type of early warning system to the administrators, secret administrators or key personnel? Some type of block? Do other sites have this problem?

well, the thread went off inna different direction anyway, but that's ok too...1BB, i am not overly familiar with this site but it does seem to me that some safeguards are in place, lest it would be "overwhelmed" daily with spam, something that is not really happening...BUT NO SAFEGUARD IS FOOLPROOF and, yes, other sites DO have this problem...it is near impossible to avoid completely...anytime a new safeguard stops one thing, the spammers are conscientiously looking for another way to get around it...it is an ongoing "war"...

tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p

Although it has a bad title, there's a thread about the spam. Please keep the conversation there: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/23212-hide-yo-kids-n-hide-yo-wife/


To the OP: Since you asked, a better place for this thread would have been in the help section: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/

Quote: 1BB

Are they being compensated or just having fun at someone's expense?

This doesn't look like the latter case ("FOR TEH LULZ") to me.

I didn't look at the websites they're trying to drive traffic to, but I'm guessing that the owners of the spambots get something of value when someone visits. It could be money, but I would guess they get another spambot in their army.

I'd suggest not clicking on any of the SPAM threads. With technology these day, there's no telling how many ways they can steal your info.

I sent you a PM, but I did not delete it. You would have received a Picks Game invitation, I will resend later.