I did a MISTAKE !

Not sure if I should start this thread at all, since I know I may not be sympathized cause I didn`t (carefully) read the offer terms.

The thing is, I have ended with $750 which will be voided if I try and ask for a cash out. But I hope to find advice for a run around.

The money are available for bet on all products: sportsbook, poker, and live dealer casino games as well. -Not looking for collusion.

I would like to save this money, (or at least most part of it) as would really help me. I am just looking for advices of which is best:

- scalping them on sportsbook like betting $xx on Chelsea - Barcelona over 2.5 goals for 1.90 odds on the sportsbook where these money are stucked, and on another sportsbook bet the same amount of $ on the same game but for under 2.5 goals for 1.90 odds?

- playing live dealer french roulette at the same table from both websites betting the same amount of $ and using martingale on one website and reverse martingale on the other website (but what I do with zero?) .. OR same scheme, but at a baccarat table?

But what I do if keep losing where I want to win and I keep winning on the website where I want to lose ? How I treat/avoid this?

* Thank you all in advance for anyone who (still) want to help me taking into account that I admitted to be at fault for facing this !

Sports - For sure.

Quote: FinsRule

Sports - For sure.

Thanks. - But I have studied this situation just a bit more, and it seems there is no way out o this except if they don`t check my play.

Is not like having a bonus in a bookie where you have to rollover it for many times, it seems that if I win in the book where I want to lose, that money are actually lost because I am not able to cash them at any point. Same it goes with the casino variants too. :-(

If you have to either bet it or lose it, but can not withdraw it, then bet it. Don't try to do some Fancy Dan Double Loop Offset Forward Straddle as some fake way of betting it. Just bet the darn money and take your chances.

In other words, ... stop your whining.

Got it. :-) Thanks !

Under what conditions can you withdraw ?

Quote: MangoJ

Under what conditions can you withdraw ?

- Only if they don`t check my gameplay.

I`ve got a $10 poker bonus, and also played casino games with them, which is not allowed.

In their terms is also stated that prior to approving any withdrawal they will also check the respective account gameplay.

So .. I think I am pretty hopeless .. and is my fault ..

If there is no chance of payout for this or any other amount, then your balance is completely worthless. The only option besides collusion would be: come back in 5 years and hope they forgot about the terms. Maybe you should put it in scratch tickets and hope for better offers.

Yes .. poker chip dumping is an option. Though, not sure how to do right and subtle ? - But I was thinking at the following trick:

Play slot games (on $2 per spin ?) until I hit a bonus round or free spins, then quit the game and move to the next slot game with the same strategy, until I zeroed out my balance. Then make a deposit, play a bit poker and casino, cash out, and after one approved cash out, go and collect all bonus rounds I have left untouched a week or so ago, and then cash out again whatever these will award ?

Depends on the procedure, if those free spins will be noticed by the staff. But on a busy day it could be worth a try.

I think it should work. I don`t think they will spot that these wins are derived from the bonus I`ve got before my first deposit and last cash out .. because meanwhile I had a zero ($0.00) balance and a fresh deposit with no bonus, plus a successful cashout. - I believe it is a lot of work to figure it out ? What I don`t know is if the software (Playtech) will allow me to place my withdrawal request. - I have read a story of someone reporting that the Playtech cashier would not allow him to place his withdrawal request because he had unsettled bets/and/or games open in the casino.

And I don`t know if the software is able to block withdrawal requests if there are bonus rounds not played (but firstly I will test this on another Playtech casino before I apply). An unsettled bet would be a bet on a blackjack hand for example, where the player did not busted and did not hit "stand" either. - But I don`t know if a bonus round not played would look like a bet which is not finished ?

Ultimately, lets say will work, but it is well possible to only end up with $200 or so if I get unlucky and win only weak bonus rounds. :)

The thing with doing this trick on a busy day is bit discouraging for me because the TOS say pay outs are done in 3 business days. :(

Not sure why chip dumping isn't appealing to you but IMO its by far the best way to keep (almost) all the money and not being suspected.
Just ask a relative or a close friend you can trust to register there and after few days of hanging around and playing small stakes on poker sit together on a heads up table,collaborate on skype and make it credible when opportunity for a big pot arises get in with the worst hand a couple of times and that's it.
Or you can make it by yourself if you have access to another PC and your friend agrees to use his details and bank account for reg. and withdrawal.
Arbing in sports or another form of matched gamble on two different sites isn't an option cause you never know where the money will go.You'll need a much bigger sum available on the other site to make it more likely after series of wins in the wrong site to continue with the hope it will turn the other way around.And the vig will eat up significant part of the money.