rjfp
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June 25th, 2012 at 5:44:38 PM permalink
Can someone tell me the house edge on Match the Dealer side bet for blackjack with the following payouts:

Two perfect matches (same suit as dealer) pays 20 to 1
One perfect match pays 10 to 1
One perfect and one non-perfect match pays 14 to 1
Two non-perfect matches pays 8 to 1
One non-perfect match pays 4 to 1

I'm interested in house edge for 6 and 8 deck shoes.

Thank you.
JB
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June 25th, 2012 at 6:02:51 PM permalink
With 6 decks the house edge is 3508/48205 = 7.3%

With 8 decks the house edge is 1604/28635 = 5.6%
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June 26th, 2012 at 10:52:42 AM permalink
Thanks so much. Does Mike Shackleford cover this side bet with these odds anywhere? I couldn't find it. Randy
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June 26th, 2012 at 11:16:02 AM permalink
Quote: rjfp

Thanks so much. Does Mike Shackleford cover this side bet with these odds anywhere? I couldn't find it. Randy



https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/8/#matchdealer

Doesn't cover your specific pay table though. The ones he did cover are more generous.
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June 26th, 2012 at 11:39:47 AM permalink
Thanks. I saw that appendix but couldn't find one for my payouts. The Seminole Indian casinos in Florida all use the lower payouts.
rjfp
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June 26th, 2012 at 11:52:46 AM permalink
JB - I found the below info at another site. It appears the payout used is the one I'm interested in although the payout for 2 suited matches appears to be a typo as it says 2 to 1 rather than 20 to 1. The house edge is lower than what you had advised. Which is correct? thanks. Randy

Match the Dealer
Masque Publishing – (303) 290-9853
This side bet can be found on both regular blackjack and Spanish 21. This bet wins for each of the player’s initial two cards that match the dealer’s up card. Payoff multiples are based on the number of matching cards, suited or unsuited. The payouts range from 4-to-1 for a one-card match to 2-to-1 for a two suited card match. The mathematical house edge is 4.1 percent for six-deck blackjack, 3.7 percent for eight-deck blackjack, and approximately 3 percent for six- or eight-deck Spanish 21. The regular six-deck blackjack game has a hit frequency of once every 7 hands; Spanish 21 once every 6.5 hands.
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February 16th, 2014 at 10:01:32 AM permalink
Hi there-

My local has Match the Dealer on with the following pay table with 2 decks:

1 Unsuited 4x
2 Unsuited 9x
1 Suited 19x
1 Suited 1 Unsuited 23x

Can anyone tell me the house edge and probabilities? Haven't seen anything online for double deck and this side bet.

Thanks JC
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February 16th, 2014 at 10:25:08 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyComet

Hi there-

My local has Match the Dealer on with the following pay table with 2 decks:

1 Unsuited 4x
2 Unsuited 9x
1 Suited 19x
1 Suited 1 Unsuited 23x

Can anyone tell me the house edge and probabilities? Haven't seen anything online for double deck and this side bet.

Thanks JC



I don't know what kind of answer you are looking for. I don't know why you would want the exact math on such a bad bet and it's online to boot. It's a sucker bet Johnny. What does (2) suited pay if 1 suited and 1 non suited pays 23x? My advice is don't play it, you are wasting money my friend.
Respectfully,
Wait, it's a long term advantage?
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February 16th, 2014 at 10:35:24 AM permalink
That's not the point. Of course it's a bad bet. The point is that there is math for the other decks/ pay tables and I'd like to know it for this table/ 2 decks as I'm not great at figuring it out..
If you have seen this online please post the link. It's not on the Wizard's site.

2 suited cards and matching the dealer can't happen with 2 decks. :)

JC
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February 16th, 2014 at 10:41:47 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyComet

That's not the point. Of course it's a bad bet. The point is that there is math for the other decks/ pay tables and I'd like to know it for this table/ 2 decks as I'm not great at figuring it out..
If you have seen this online please post the link. It's not on the Wizard's site.

2 suited cards and matching the dealer can't happen with 2 decks. :)

JC



Gotcha, if I find something I will send it your way. Sorry I couldn't help lol
Wait, it's a long term advantage?
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February 16th, 2014 at 11:09:23 AM permalink
Match the Dealer - Blackjack - Two Decks

Event Pays Perms Prob Return
One suited and one non-suited match 23 12 0.001142204 0.026270702
One suited match 19 192 0.018275271 0.347230154
Two non-suited matches 9 30 0.002855511 0.0256996
One non-suited matches 4 1152 0.109651628 0.438606511
No matches -1 9120 0.868075385 -0.868075385
Total 10506 1 -0.030268418


I'm pretty sure of these results
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February 16th, 2014 at 12:27:21 PM permalink
Match the dealer and 21+3 (with the 9-1 pay table) have historically been one of the best HE blackjack side bets for the players. I would add Lucky Lucky in that mix as well. Lucky & I are hoping to add Lucky Stiff to that group, but the verdict on our BJ side bet is being determined in trials right now.

Yes, 3%-4.5% is much worse than the 0.6% HE main BJ bet, but that is the cost of increased variance. Frankly, BJ is pretty much a grind to most recreational players (who play the main game to more like a 1.25% HE due to errors)......side bets add variance and many recreational players find that variance increases the "fun" of playing.

Playing a side bet with a 8%, 12% or even 24% HE is, IMHO, "throwing money away". But any side bet with increased variance that comes in less than the main HE of Roulette (5.26%) isn't an "avoid at all costs" type of proposition.
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February 16th, 2014 at 1:36:08 PM permalink
Thanks!!! If I'm only playing for an hour or two I usually do these side bets just to liven things up.

JC
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