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March 10th, 2018 at 2:14:40 PM permalink
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Yea when you 'jump' your bet to a much higher amount than previously played and it's also to get the pit bosses attention to start looking at me closer. You obviously missed the point and started to assume I dont know what it means. The point is 'checks play' shouldn't even be called if the jump is only to 2x100, give me a break. Even if I went from $1 to 2x100, it's still an irrelevant wager. Are casinos scared of losing $2 in EV that round to an AP? You can't make these things up.



As I expected, you don't know what it means, which is why you are confused by it. Cheques play is when someone increases their bet to $100 on a hand, even if they've been playing $75 a hand previously for an hour, using multiple color chips besides black. If the bet is a black chip they will call out black action.

They will call this out the first or first few times you bet $100 or more and then will usually stop until you decrease your bet and hit the threshold again.

It is to alert the Supervisor of an increase in bet to $100, but not necessarily to alert them of a large increase. Like I said, cheques play will generally be called on a $10 increase from $90 to $100. It's standard procedure taught in every dealer school in the Country.


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March 10th, 2018 at 2:29:41 PM permalink
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As I expected, you don't know what it means, which is why you are confused by it. Cheques play is when someone increases their bet to $100 on a hand, even if they've been playing $75 a hand previously for an hour, using multiple color chips besides black. If the bet is a black chip they will call out black action.

They will call this out the first or first few times you bet $100 or more and then will usually stop until you decrease your bet and hit the threshold again.

It is to alert the Supervisor of an increase in bet to $100, but not necessarily to alert them of a large increase. Like I said, cheques play will generally be called on a $10 increase from $90 to $100. It's standard procedure taught in every dealer school in the Country.


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That's funny, you never hear 'cheques play' in baccarat or any other table game. Hmmm. Nice try. Many stores call cheques play under 100 so you're wrong. It's simply to alert the pit drone critter of a big jump in your bet because of the possibility of a pesky card counter that is gonna bankrupt the casino with his sub $1000 bets. So laughable.
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March 10th, 2018 at 3:18:37 PM permalink
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That's funny, you never hear 'cheques play' in baccarat or any other table game. Hmmm. Nice try. Many stores call cheques play under 100 so you're wrong. It's simply to alert the pit drone critter of a big jump in your bet because of the possibility of a pesky card counter that is gonna bankrupt the casino with his sub $1000 bets. So laughable.



Why do they sometimes call it on games that are not Blackjack, then? I don't know where you are getting your opinion that they don't call it on, "Any other table game," as I've certainly heard it called.
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March 10th, 2018 at 3:24:40 PM permalink
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That's funny, you never hear 'cheques play' in baccarat or any other table game. Hmmm. Nice try. Many stores call cheques play under 100 so you're wrong. It's simply to alert the pit drone critter of a big jump in your bet because of the possibility of a pesky card counter that is gonna bankrupt the casino with his sub $1000 bets. So laughable.



No, it is not. It is to alert the pit that someone is now betting over a certain amount determined by the casino. I know plenty of casinos that call it out when someone starts betting over $25. You need to be a little more open minded when someone with experience working at casinos tries to tell you something (Not everyone, most people both in and out of casinos are still morons).
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March 10th, 2018 at 3:25:12 PM permalink
"Checks Play" is called to alert the Supervisor that there is action that needs to be monitored. If a Supervisor is watching 6 or 7 tables, or busy putting a fill on a table, or one of a number of other tasks they have, it is very easy for them to completely miss that there is unexpected action at one of the tables until after the player has finished play and is coloring up.

It does NOT necessarily mean that the person is an AP.

I am not a bean counter, but someone who has been in Table Games in several different jurisdictions over the past 32 years.
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March 10th, 2018 at 11:15:34 PM permalink
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"Checks Play" is called to alert the Supervisor that there is action that needs to be monitored. If a Supervisor is watching 6 or 7 tables, or busy putting a fill on a table, or one of a number of other tasks they have, it is very easy for them to completely miss that there is unexpected action at one of the tables until after the player has finished play and is coloring up.

It does NOT necessarily mean that the person is an AP.

I am not a bean counter, but someone who has been in Table Games in several different jurisdictions over the past 32 years.



'Action that needs to be monitored' = Exactly what I said. Why would they need to 'monitor' something? Maybe because they're scared of someone beating them? And which game can be beaten? BLACKJACK. Ding ding ding. Looks like your little superiors gave you a bunch of hogwash and you blindly accepted it just like Zcore.

Let me know when they yell out 'checks play' on roulette. Hmm. Ive seen plenty of players go up to the table and start betting 100s on red or green or after 30 min or an hour go from minimum to betting 100s and never once heard 'checks play' or 'cheques play', but we all know its spelled 'checks play' because a possible counter is 'checking his play' and 'jumping' his bet aggressively.

Lastly if you want further proof, lots of casinos such as the sweaty ones, they call 'checks play' for bets under 100 if you jump up your bets aggressively so that's nonsense that 'checks play' is only for 100 or higher regardless of table game. Dealers are trained to yell out 'checks play' for people that jump their bets in blackjack. I wonder why... ding ding ding

So much for those theories. Nice try guys.
Last edited by: ZenKinG on Mar 10, 2018
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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March 10th, 2018 at 11:29:07 PM permalink
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No, it is not. It is to alert the pit that someone is now betting over a certain amount determined by the casino. I know plenty of casinos that call it out when someone starts betting over $25. You need to be a little more open minded when someone with experience working at casinos tries to tell you something (Not everyone, most people both in and out of casinos are still morons).



Yeah so why dont they yell out 'checks play' at roulette? Never heard it in my life. Ill wait....
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March 11th, 2018 at 3:57:27 AM permalink
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'Action that needs to be monitored' = Exactly what I said. Why would they need to 'monitor' something? Maybe because they're scared of someone beating them? And which game can be beaten? BLACKJACK. Ding ding ding. Looks like your little superiors gave you a bunch of hogwash and you blindly accepted it just like Zcore.

Let me know when they yell out 'checks play' on roulette. Hmm. Ive seen plenty of players go up to the table and start betting 100s on red or green or after 30 min or an hour go from minimum to betting 100s and never once heard 'checks play' or 'cheques play', but we all know its spelled 'checks play' because a possible counter is 'checking his play' and 'jumping' his bet aggressively.

Lastly if you want further proof, lots of casinos such as the sweaty ones, they call 'checks play' for bets under 100 if you jump up your bets aggressively so that's nonsense that 'checks play' is only for 100 or higher regardless of table game. Dealers are trained to yell out 'checks play' for people that jump their bets in blackjack. I wonder why... ding ding ding

So much for those theories. Nice try guys.



Wrong. It's a set amount being bet. 90% of places it's $100. At a small casino with only a few tables and mostly regulars it could be as low as $25. It has nothing to do with bet spread. Dealers do not care what you spread. They call it out at the dollar amount threshold they are told to.


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March 11th, 2018 at 6:26:14 AM permalink
I've heard "black action" as well as "checks play." I've bet more than $100 using greens and reds at a $10 table where I usually play lower amounts, and heard nothing.

FWIW, my experience is limited enough (only been playing blackjack for about 20 years) that I haven't yet concluded that my experience is all-inclusive when it comes to what happens at all the blackjack tables in all the casinos in all the world.

If that were true, why would I bother coming to this site? I'd already have all the answers.
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March 11th, 2018 at 6:35:28 AM permalink
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If that were true, why would I bother coming to this site? I'd already have all the answers.

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