mcallister3200
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August 30th, 2017 at 7:52:25 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Very well written letter, but that's all it is: a letter.

No idea how they will respond.

Perhaps an AP client of his to whom this has happened could retain him to take the matter a step further and file a lawsuit naming both the casino where it happened and the gaming commission requesting that the court issue a declaratory judgment on the issue.

That should be definitive.



I think there's at least one case working its way through. I think this letter is probably because this is happening to a number of people for smaller amounts of 600-3k etc that he's getting constantly contacted for advice on after gaming refuses to enforce the regulations, and for those amounts theres a good chance the cost of litigation exceeds the reward.
ZenKinG
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August 30th, 2017 at 8:21:35 AM permalink
Nevada Gaming commission not enforcing laws? Never heard of such a thing.

#mobRunsThisCity
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
Romes
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August 30th, 2017 at 8:54:55 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Nevada Gaming commission not enforcing laws? Never heard of such a thing.

#mobRunsThisCity #casinosRunThisCity

Fixed that for you... Casinos run the city and are all owned by wall-street corporations. Similar to how they lobby and purchase our legislation in government, they do the same for themselves in Vegas. Shocking? Not really.
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ZenKinG
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August 30th, 2017 at 9:02:04 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quote: ZenKinG

Nevada Gaming commission not enforcing laws? Never heard of such a thing.

#mobRunsThisCity #casinosRunThisCity

Fixed that for you... Casinos run the city and are all owned by wall-street corporations. Similar to how they lobby and purchase our legislation in government, they do the same for themselves in Vegas. Shocking? Not really.



Yea even worse. Lobbying and purchasing legislation in government? Hmm, no wonder the gaming commission doesnt check the cards. They are bought by the casinos.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2017 at 9:05:30 AM permalink
I think Bob is strictly talking about being asked for ID when cashing out chips and casinos using excuses when you refuse and they in turn confiscate the chips. According to him, the law states that the casino must redeem the chip from the customer. But Gaming is overstepping the law and siding with casinos. Nothing in there discussed CTRs.

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Mission146
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monet0412
August 30th, 2017 at 9:42:13 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG


Yea even worse. Lobbying and purchasing legislation in government? Hmm, no wonder the gaming commission doesnt check the cards. They are bought by the casinos.



Did you lose 0.25% of your bankroll your last session, or something?
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MrV
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August 30th, 2017 at 9:43:26 AM permalink
Perhaps the Gaming Commission will "punt" on the issue and ask the office of the Nevada Attorney General to issue a formal opinion on the matter.
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FleaStiff
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August 30th, 2017 at 10:13:04 AM permalink
AP's don't really take much but casinos don't care about that. They have their memos and their poor training and not much else to do anyway, so it becomes some sort of goal to go after someone.

Its often a matter similar to the Seattle office manager whose office films the sidewalk 24 hours a day 7 days a week, but one a passerby filmed her office for a few minutes she was screaming at a security guard to call the police.

Proving identity or proving actual ownership of chips is usually just a pretext for 'we don't like you'.
DRich
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August 30th, 2017 at 11:16:15 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Perhaps the Gaming Commission will "punt" on the issue and ask the office of the Nevada Attorney General to issue a formal opinion on the matter.



Yes, the Attorney General's office is represented at every Gaming Board and Gaming Commission meeting. On many issues they will ask for a recommendation and input from the A.G.
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BobDancer
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August 30th, 2017 at 11:40:42 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Next time BN is on GWAE, I'd like to know if he was writing a gambling reform ballot initiative, what he would ask for, what needs updated, and what needs changed, etc.



Thanx for the suggestion. It is now on the list.

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