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BedWetterBetter
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onenickelmiracle
April 24th, 2020 at 7:01:23 PM permalink
I'm thinking that my local casinos will be trying their hardest to get customers back. Some of the PA casinos will be using the Gift giveaways as incentive for long time and even newer patrons to come in after re-opening.

They will certainly have loads of gifts from the past and could probably give them away during the week instead of only on Saturday. I'm guessing they'll sprinkle in free slot play for the higher tier players also.

I would think AC might implore this method due to the lack of sports betting allowed and an abundance of gifts from a month of no patrons.
FleaStiff
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AxelWolf
April 24th, 2020 at 7:18:02 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

I'm thinking that my local casinos will be trying their hardest to get customers back. Some of the PA casinos will be using the Gift giveaways as incentive for long time and even newer patrons to come in after re-opening.

Perhaps, but it is more likely they will avoid physical handling of items and avoid creating obvious choke points such as Free Gift Courtesy Desks.
AxelWolf
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April 24th, 2020 at 11:29:35 PM permalink
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I am going to recommend to the GM's of our casinos that they should increase the offers to the players that have large losses last year.

I don't want to increase offers to high handle players unless they have big losses. Don't want to help the AP's with high handle and low TWIN.

I'll gladly send you a few recommendations that you should recommend.
Just imagine the marketing they could do with their casino filled with legitimate pending jackpots and a news reporter there to cover it.

The casinos should definitely be going after those stimulus checks.
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ThatDonGuy
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April 25th, 2020 at 9:47:42 AM permalink
They're not going to go back to "business as usual" on Day 1. If it gets to the point where they can do it this way, then it will be Business As Usual, because the clubs, shows, and restaurants (and, depending on when it happens, the pools) will be open as well with no social distancing restrictions. If the shows are limited to every other seat, then I see a lot of this happening:
"Let's go to Vegas - get a couple of tickets to Love."
"It says it's sold out for the next two months because of the limited number of seats."
"How about the restaurants?"
"The ones that could afford to reopen with the limited seating options are the really expensive ones, and those are also booked solid for the foreseeable future."
"You know, maybe now's not the time to go..."

Which brings up the question: one of the poll options mentioned comps, but what comps would be available?

If Strip casinos really wanted to bring in players while they wait for the rest of the hotel to reopen, they would do things like offering double-deck S17 3-2 $10. Yes, they'll get a lot of counters, but chances are they'll also get a lot of people who think they know how to count - and anybody who is too aggressive will find out that some parts of Vegas are still "business as usual."

Then again, there's one wild card in all of this - Da Raiduhz...er, The Raiders. "Come for the game, stay for the gaming!" Yes, I fully expect (a) there to be at least a partial season in 2020, and (b) the stadium to be ready for home games. (Raiders tickets - now there's a possible comp.)
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April 25th, 2020 at 9:54:16 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy



If Strip casinos really wanted to bring in players while they wait for the rest of the hotel to reopen, they would do things like offering double-deck S17 3-2 $10. Yes, they'll get a lot of counters, but chances are they'll also get a lot of people who think they know how to count - and anybody who is too aggressive will find out that some parts of Vegas are still "business as usual."



Yeah, no. 95% of players do not care about favorable rules. More care about how fancy the place looks. Trust me, better rules will not be part of the reopen.
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billryan
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April 25th, 2020 at 9:59:38 AM permalink
Very few of the big shows can survive with half capacity. Some shows will be able to cut back on a few performers
but headliners like Cher, Elton, Carrot Top and others will either have to take major pay cuts or fold.
ThatDonGuy
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April 25th, 2020 at 1:28:21 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Yeah, no. 95% of players do not care about favorable rules. More care about how fancy the place looks. Trust me, better rules will not be part of the reopen.


What percentage of those who don't care about favorable rules are there primarily to gamble? Like I said, if the casinos open before the clubs, restaurants, and shows, then who's going to show up in the first place?
onenickelmiracle
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April 25th, 2020 at 3:33:15 PM permalink
People used to care, because they didn't trust casinos and the public with money to travel and spend had to be lured in thinking it wasn't so bad. People do care about odds, they just have to balance this against where they really make money. If they make more per hour and they value their time, they're not going to care much about studying to lose the least amount of money. It's the same as clipping coupons, people either use them or make a career of it, or don't at all, because they have too much use for their time.
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April 25th, 2020 at 5:14:08 PM permalink
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Very few of the big shows can survive with half capacity. Some shows will be able to cut back on a few performers
but headliners like Cher, Elton, Carrot Top and others will either have to take major pay cuts or fold.



That will be interesting because this is a global problem. For a year or so, Cher and Elton may have nowhere to go to get their old rates. They must either do shows at lower rates or take time-off from touring or just retire.. They will be part of a much larger problem for all kinds of entertainment - sports, theme parks, movie theaters, live shows (theatrical productions, music productions, comedy and variety), casinos, etc. How can you create a lot of revenue if you can't have large crowds?
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billryan
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April 25th, 2020 at 6:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

That will be interesting because this is a global problem. For a year or so, Cher and Elton may have nowhere to go to get their old rates. They must either do shows at lower rates or take time-off from touring or just retire.. They will be part of a much larger problem for all kinds of entertainment - sports, theme parks, movie theaters, live shows (theatrical productions, music productions, comedy and variety), casinos, etc. How can you create a lot of revenue if you can't have large crowds?



Most shows and entertainers carry business interruption insurance. A lot of these policies evidently don't cover these circumstances so the road ahead is unclear.

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