cool new gambling game! the game that robs you blind!!!

the game,

an interesting "wild west" style gambling game. an interesting twist of blackjack and roulette. a betting surface depicting a Jack of Hearts, a Joker in the middle, and an ace of Spades to the right.

The goal,

win.

The game can either be card based or roulette style with two seperate balls.

the cards must be 8 jacks, 12 aces, 16 "pip tens", for a total of 36 cards. be sure the suits are equal. the chance by might selects two cards of their choosing. and or the balls are spun. the game can also be played as "mini" with only 2 jacks, 3 aces, and 4 pip tens. in which all rules and payouts are the same, except joker pays 3:1.

The rules,

unlimited players. all players bets are resolved per the same draw selection.

Ace bet, must be met with a 2 unit min bet. upon the selection of the first card, the players may fold by surrendering half. No new bets welcome, new bettors must wait until the next game. wins 1:2 on an (ace, pip ten) and 3:2 on an (ace, ace). stand alone* ace bets are a push on an (ace, jack) and a lose on a (ace of spades, and jack of hearts specifically) and on a (pip ten, pip ten).

Joker bet, has no min wager. joker bets may be doubled after the first card selected, but never reduced. new bettors welcome. wins 7:1 on (ace of spades, and jack of hearts specifically). a push on a (pip ten, pip ten) and a lose on any other combinations.

Jack bet, must be met with a 2 unit min bet. upon the selection of the first card, the players may fold by surrendering half. No new bets welcome, new bettors must wait until the next game. wins 1:1 on a (jack, pip ten), and 5:2 on a (jack, jack). stand alone* jack bets are a push on an (ace, jack) and a lose on a (ace of spades, and jack of hearts specifically) and on a (pip ten, pip ten).

**stand alone means "that" is the only live bet. joker does NOT count as a second or live bet. if both the jack and ace have bets on them, and a (ace, jack) is drawn..(besides the ace of spades and the jack of hearts). both win the pay for having one of each. 1:1, and 1:2. otherwise its a push if they are standing alone, or a lose if its the (ace of spades and the jack of hearts). and likewise the dreaded (pip ten, pip ten)

if the selection is 2 "pip tens" the players lose. all bets lose, except for joker is a push.


winning draws for "Jack",

Jack, Pip ten. (1:1)
jack, Jack. (5:2)


joker wins 7:1 in a 36 card deck or slotted wheel, and 3:1 in the mini 9 card/slot version. Joker wins by drawing the Jack of Hearts, and the Ace of Spades. all other bets lose. joker loses for all other card combinations except to 2 "pip tens" which is a push.


Winning draws for "Ace",

Ace, Pip ten (1:2)
Ace, Ace (3:2)

i personally created this game myself. it has the roulette sence, with the blackjack style, and the breaking even trick of the game crown and anchor.

try it! tell me what you think! this game is unbeatable

Quote: ponyboy

if i did my math right, the jack has a 4.51% edge. joker with 7.91% edge, the ace at 4.4% edge. leaving the game with a total of 16.81% over all combined.

You can't add those. If I bet $10 on each ($30 total), with your stated edges I expect to lose $0.451 on the Jack, $0.791 on the joker, and $0.44 on the ace. That's $1.682 over $30, or 5.607%.

I just want to run this scenario by you. I may not understand your rules properly, and I don't get the same return as you.

-Player places $2 on Jack and $2 on Aces.
-First card is dealt an A.
-Player removes half the bet on the Jack.
-Second card is dealt a J.

So what is the pay? From the rules, it looks like the player will get paid 1:1 for both the remaining Jack bet and the Ace bet, because he is betting on both. He will walk away with:

$1 for reducing the bet on the Jack
$2 for the 1:1 pay on the Jack bet
$4 for the 1:1 pay on the Ace bet

Edit: never mind.

A bit off your question, but

Quote: ponyboy

...or roulette style with two seperate balls.

But this jumped out at me. Has anyone ever seen two-ball roulette? Maybe with a different-color "bonus ball", or something similar?

Quote: Calder

Has anyone ever seen two-ball roulette? Maybe with a different-color "bonus ball", or something similar?

Something similar?

I don't know where / if they have any installed, but TCS John Huxley has this "Double Action" wheel:

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Quote: DJTeddyBear

Something similar?

I don't know where / if they have any installed, but TCS John Huxley has this "Double Action" wheel:

TCS John Huxley has this "Double Action" wheel installed in a few casinos.
Aspers Newcastle UK, is one of the Casino.
ukcasinotablegames.info

Quote: CrystalMath

I just want to run this scenario by you. I may not understand your rules properly, and I don't get the same return as you.

-Player places $2 on Jack and $2 on Aces.
-First card is dealt an A.
-Player removes half the bet on the Jack.
-Second card is dealt a J.

So what is the pay? From the rules, it looks like the player will get paid 1:1 for both the remaining Jack bet and the Ace bet, because he is betting on both. He will walk away with:

$1 for reducing the bet on the Jack
$2 for the 1:1 pay on the Jack bet
$4 for the 1:1 pay on the Ace bet

Yes! ALL REDUCED BETS PAY 1:1. and both jack and ace pay so long as a bet is placed on both, otherwise the bet is a push if only one of either jack or ace is bet on. besides for a double "pip ten" draw. then all lose.

Yes! if the player places a bet on both the jack and the ace of $2 each, and an A is delt the first card, the bettor may reduce the jack bet to half, and if a jack is that second card. jack hence wins 1:1 for being reduced, and ace wins 1:2 (half)

Jack, Ace rule!!!!!

Jack and Ace win 1:1 if reduced, and both win normal pay if bets are on each, 1:1 on Jack, and 1:2 on Ace. jack and ace lose on double pip ten draws, and jack of hearts and the ace of spades(joker wins). Ace is a push if bet on alone during a Jack, Ace draw. viseversa for Jack on the same hand.

ack, Ace rule!!!!! Ooops read that too fast Thought it said Jackasses Rule.

Quote: CrystalMath

I just want to run this scenario by you. I may not understand your rules properly, and I don't get the same return as you.

-Player places $2 on Jack and $2 on Aces.
-First card is dealt an A.
-Player removes half the bet on the Jack.
-Second card is dealt a J.

So what is the pay? From the rules, it looks like the player will get paid 1:1 for both the remaining Jack bet and the Ace bet, because he is betting on both. He will walk away with:

$1 for reducing the bet on the Jack
$2 for the 1:1 pay on the Jack bet
$4 for the 1:1 pay on the Ace bet

my bad on the 1:1 "if bets are placed on each" ...i have fixed it to how it was supposed to be, both win advertized pay for single selection.

Quote: rdw4potus

You can't add those. If I bet $10 on each ($30 total), with your stated edges I expect to lose $0.451 on the Jack, $0.791 on the joker, and $0.44 on the ace. That's $1.682 over $30, or 5.607%.

you have to remember that ALL BETS lose on a double pip ten selection! which is the most common likely two card selection

Quote: buzzpaff

ack, Ace rule!!!!! Ooops read that too fast Thought it said Jackasses Rule.

lol the game is actually named Jack Joker Ass!

like roulette, and crown and anchor, after months of study of this game, i dub this game unbeatable!!!

Quote: ponyboy

you have to remember that ALL BETS lose on a double pip ten selection! which is the most common likely two card selection

All I did was take your house edges and show you how the math is supposed to look to get the overall edge. Assuming you applied the rules correctly to get to the edges you listed, my overall edge is also correct.

i have revised the game rules, this is hopefully better to understand. and is honestly the original version that i like better. please check the first post, thanks.

can anyone tell me for a fact what the dealers edge is?? all i know for a fact is that i ALWAYS end up losing when i play it.

for $150 i will custom make you a a version of this game