Game Masters article (from Aug 2004 Playboy)
For a while it appeared on Eliot's AP Heat site, but I can't find it any longer. So, I purchased an old copy on Ebay and hired a friend to transcribe it. I'm not sure if this runs afoul of Fair Use laws. If Playboy asks us to take it down, we will.
That said, we posted the article at WoO.
Weird New Casino Games (and the men who invent them)
Quote:Prior to 1986 casinos gave the gambler virtually even odds to beat the house. Some games not found in Las Vegas today are faro, lansquenette, rouge et noir, monte, rondo, Chinese fantan, red white and blue, Diana and ziginette - all of which are legal, all of which are specifically authorized by statute and many of which are still played in foreign gambling halls. They disappeared because, quite simply, they were fair. The only way casinos could make money off them was to cheat
Playboy …required “reading”? Three thumbs up!
I'll answer my own question. I imagine Bloom is not normally a gambling writer, and one who is would not say these games "were fair" and thus eliminated ... instead a regular writer would say casinos moved against all these old games that they could, because the hold or HE either one was not what they wanted ... not that they were "fair" which has a very specific meaning to a gambling writer. Games like craps and BJ did make the cut but for other reasons.Quote: odiousgambitwhat do you think of this statement?
Quote:Prior to 1986 casinos gave the gambler virtually even odds to beat the house. Some games not found in Las Vegas today are faro, lansquenette, rouge et noir, monte, rondo, Chinese fantan, red white and blue, Diana and ziginette - all of which are legal, all of which are specifically authorized by statute and many of which are still played in foreign gambling halls. They disappeared because, quite simply, they were fair. The only way casinos could make money off them was to cheat
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Quote: gordonm888I would like to know the rules for 7 Card Thrill, the new game that was discussed so much in the Playboy article. The WOV forum has a very old thread on 7-Card Thrill, but the thread has only two posts and the rules are not explained.
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https://gaming.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/gamingnvgov/content/divisions/enforcement/Rules-of-Play/7%20Card%20Thrill.pdf
Quote: WizardBack in August 2004 Playboy did a long and outstanding article about the difficult and bizarre business of inventing new casino games. Much of the advice still holds true to this day. It should be required reading before anyone starts flushing money down the toilet on a new game.
For a while it appeared on Eliot's AP Heat site, but I can't find it any longer. So, I purchased an old copy on Ebay and hired a friend to transcribe it. I'm not sure if this runs afoul of Fair Use laws. If Playboy asks us to take it down, we will.
That said, we posted the article at WoO.
Weird New Casino Games (and the men who invent them)
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Why transcribe?
couldnt you take a pic of the article and post it large enough for people to read?
Quote: camaplPlayboy …article? Never heard of one.
Playboy …required “reading”? Three thumbs up!
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I didn't come here for the reading:
https:// i.ibb.co/SnWw9hV/s-l1600.webp
<not safe for work, thus why it's not linked>
Eva Herzigova is the model.
You can google the rest ;)
Quote: odiousgambitwhat do you think of this statement?
Quote:Prior to 1986 casinos gave the gambler virtually even odds to beat the house. Some games not found in Las Vegas today are faro, lansquenette, rouge et noir, monte, rondo, Chinese fantan, red white and blue, Diana and ziginette - all of which are legal, all of which are specifically authorized by statute and many of which are still played in foreign gambling halls. They disappeared because, quite simply, they were fair. The only way casinos could make money off them was to cheat
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It's obviously incorrect. Many of those games I never heard of to be honest. However, faro was not a "fair" game, although did have a low house edge. I think the demise of games like faro were less that low house edge and more that players got bored with it.
Quote: gordonm888I would like to know the rules for 7 Card Thrill, the new game that was discussed so much in the Playboy article. The WOV forum has a very old thread on 7-Card Thrill, but the thread has only two posts and the rules are not explained.
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That was a rare game I saw in Vegas, but didn't analyze. It would have been a difficult analysis compared to the low number of placements. I could say the same for Asia Poker and Lunar Poker. I still have a rack card for 7 Card Thrill.
However, I give that game credit for longevity. It seemed it was always had one or two placements. Yet, I seldom saw anybody play it.
But here is what I'm baffled by. The dealer turns one of his 7 dealt cards face up so the players can see it as they choose their two cards to discard. But all the players are doing is making the best possible 5-card poker hand from their 7 dealt cards. So, why have one face-up dealer card? The exposed information isn't useful to the players for anything because the player isn't actually making any decisions. There are no further wagers, no trade-offs in arranging your cards. What am I missing?
Quote: gordonm888But here is what I'm baffled by. The dealer turns one of his 7 dealt cards face up so the players can see it as they choose their two cards to discard. But all the players are doing is making the best possible 5-card poker hand from their 7 dealt cards. So, why have one face-up dealer card? The exposed information isn't useful to the players for anything because the player isn't actually making any decisions. There are no further wagers, no trade-offs in arranging your cards. What am I missing?
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The dealer turns over one of his cards in Caribbean Stud Poker. That has an effect on player strategy. Caribbean Stud was still popular at the time 7 Card Thrill was out there. I figure whoever invented it was hoping to catch some players who liked Caribbean with that rule.
Quote: WizardQuote: gordonm888But here is what I'm baffled by. The dealer turns one of his 7 dealt cards face up so the players can see it as they choose their two cards to discard. But all the players are doing is making the best possible 5-card poker hand from their 7 dealt cards. So, why have one face-up dealer card? The exposed information isn't useful to the players for anything because the player isn't actually making any decisions. There are no further wagers, no trade-offs in arranging your cards. What am I missing?
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The dealer turns over one of his cards in Caribbean Stud Poker. That has an effect on player strategy. Caribbean Stud was still popular at the time 7 Card Thrill was out there. I figure whoever invented it was hoping to catch some players who liked Caribbean with that rule.
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Does Caribbean Stud still exist in Las Vegas? The first slot machine I worked on was a Caribbean Stud video poker game that failed pretty bad.
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Does Caribbean Stud still exist in Las Vegas? The first slot machine I worked on was a Caribbean Stud video poker game that failed pretty bad.
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i'm surprised Antillean Poker didn't catch on in the usa.
it's Caribbean Stud but you have the option to pay for 1 extra card after looking at your hand:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38758-antillean-poker-not-on-woo/
