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July 9th, 2011 at 11:46:11 AM permalink
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Poker For Roulette


Hi DJTeddyBear,
Sorry to show you this, Check it out yourself.

Roulette and Poker at the same time
Only Triple Crown Roulette enables playing of roulette and poker at the same time, during one spin.

Triple-crown-electronic-roulette-at-london-show
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July 9th, 2011 at 12:59:31 PM permalink
Stephen, I am sure DJTeddybear does not believe in killing the messenger. I just read the following
" Only Triple Crown Roulette enables playing of roulette and poker at the same time, during one spin."
Was about to argue as I initially overlooked " during one spin" That seems to be a valid selling point.
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July 9th, 2011 at 2:01:34 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Stephen, I am sure DJTeddybear does not believe in killing the messenger. I just read the following
" Only Triple Crown Roulette enables playing of roulette and poker at the same time, during one spin."
Was about to argue as I initially overlooked " during one spin" That seems to be a valid selling point.


I am just pass the info on as I find them.
The Sooner DJTeddybear know about this the better, as he can investigate and get professional advice on it.
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July 9th, 2011 at 4:39:03 PM permalink
Shoot the messenger? Hardly.

While I would hate to hear that my idea is already out there, if it is out there, I'd rather hear about it sooner than later.

Of course, I'd hope my idea is NOT already out there.



Steven -

Triple Crown Roulette shown in the video, is completely different than Poker For Roulette. Of course, I'll relay it to my lawyer, just in case there's something in their patent that causes me a problem.

My idea is an optional side bet that does not change the basic game of Roulette. My bet is that the next 5 spins resemble a poker hand. That's it in a nutshell.
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July 9th, 2011 at 4:42:24 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Shoot the messenger? Hardly.

While I would hate to hear that my idea is already out there, if it is out there, I'd rather hear about it sooner than later.

Of course, I'd hope my idea is NOT already out there.



Steven -

Triple Crown Roulette shown in the video, is completely different than Poker For Roulette. Of course, I'll relay it to my lawyer, just in case there's something in their patent that causes me a problem.

My idea is an optional side bet that does not change the basic game of Roulette. My bet is that the next 5 spins resemble a poker hand. That's it in a nutshell.




Spoken like a true gentleman. My respect for you and your game has gone up another notch. GOOD LUCK !!
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July 9th, 2011 at 5:41:16 PM permalink
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My idea is an optional side bet that does not change the basic game of Roulette. My bet is that the next 5 spins resemble a poker hand. That's it in a nutshell.



There are different ways to implement Poker within Roulette, and multi-spin Roulette and one-spin Roulette are different animals.
Someone who invented a poker carnival game cannot block others if they have a different mechanism. It would be like Carribean Stud saying to three-card poker, "Game over, already done, can't come in." Infringement is when you take the same type of play mechanism, not a different type of play mechanism.
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July 10th, 2011 at 12:33:51 AM permalink
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Steven -
Triple Crown Roulette shown in the video, is completely different than Poker For Roulette. Of course, I'll relay it to my lawyer, just in case there's something in their patent that causes me a problem.

My idea is an optional side bet that does not change the basic game of Roulette. My bet is that the next 5 spins resemble a poker hand. That's it in a nutshell.



They may not have a patent or you have the idea before them.
Have a look at the date on the Video: Uploaded by MrFlywithme999 on Mar 8, 2011
and the yogonet.com: 02/15/2011
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July 10th, 2011 at 4:15:34 AM permalink
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They may not have a patent or you have the idea before them.
Have a look at the date on the Video: Uploaded by MrFlywithme999 on Mar 8, 2011
and the yogonet.com: 02/15/2011



No, I think a qualified patent attorney with gaming experience has to examine the situation on behalf of the game inventor. Game inventors have varying levels of legal experience, but a successful game inventor often says, "A REAL lawyer has to make a call on this before I spend $xx,xxx on gaming licensing and $xx,xxx on gaming math also...."

I do think a three-section roulette wheel that offers one-spin poker is a LOT different than tracking consecutive bets on a single track wheel.
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July 10th, 2011 at 11:28:55 AM permalink
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No, I think a qualified patent attorney with gaming experience has to examine the situation on behalf of the game inventor. Game inventors have varying levels of legal experience, but a successful game inventor often says, "A REAL lawyer has to make a call on this before I spend $xx,xxx on gaming licensing and $xx,xxx on gaming math also...."

I do think a three-section roulette wheel that offers one-spin poker is a LOT different than tracking consecutive bets on a single track wheel.


It is, certainly from a gameplay standpoint, but the only thing that matters for infringement is what the claims cover. If someone has a claim to something generic like "determining a plurality of roulette numbers; determining a poker-style ranking using the plurality of roulette numbers" then it may not matter whether the numbers were generated on one spin of a triple wheel, three spins of a single wheel, or even one simultaneous spin of three different single wheels. Determining what the claims of a patent mean is a matter for the Judge (in the US, anyway). See Markman v. Westview Instruments 517 U.S. 370 (1996).
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