UCivan
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May 9th, 2016 at 10:12:02 AM permalink
Does anyone have "hands per hour" for 2-, 6- and 8-deck blackjack?

How many more hands get played for 6-deck vs 2-deck each day (shuffling time included)?

Are the counts based upon one player or the average number of players against the dealer per round of blackjack play ?

These numbers matter in assigning payouts in a blackjack side bet. If 6-deck plays more hands than 2-deck per day, the house edge for it could be lower than that for 2-deck.
Romes
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May 9th, 2016 at 11:39:59 AM permalink
These results are going to vary WILDLY given the dealer and other players at the table. I could give you results like 2D = X, 6D = Y, 8D = Z, but at the end of the day you'll have to re-evaluate your table to figure it out for yourself.

Do you have a really fast dealer or a really slow dealer?
Do you have an empty table or a table full of ploppies?
Are the ploppies playing quickly, or taking 5 minutes per every decision?

There are so many factors that can't (or at least shouldn't) be measured at a "general" level. You must evaluate each game to decipher the number of hands for yourself. I've played 2D/6D/8D games with 50 hands per hour, and 2D/6D/8D games with 200 hands per hour.

If you're looking to capitalize on a side bet, you should not only look at game speed, but of course more importantly penetration.
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UCivan
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May 9th, 2016 at 4:02:59 PM permalink
There must be some theoretical numbers that people use them to benchmark.
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May 12th, 2016 at 11:21:35 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

These results are going to vary WILDLY given the dealer and other players at the table.



But that's true for lots of games and people still have approximate averages. For example, the WoO site has some hands per hour stats for blackjack based on number of players at the table. See https://wizardofodds.com/ask-the-wizard/136/

Unfortunately I don't have much sense of the magnitude of the impact between varying deck sizes, holding other factors constant.
Romes
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May 12th, 2016 at 11:38:07 AM permalink
Quote: UCivan

There must be some theoretical numbers that people use them to benchmark.

There are, but if you're using these to try to predict your EV/etc, you'll find out quite quickly you're wasting your time. Just find your hourly EV at 100 hands per hour and then estimate after a session how many hands per hour you were getting. Then a simple fraction will tell you how much your hourly EV was that night.

Another thing... Some players only seek out tables by themselves, or fast dealers they know about. Thus, their "average" is going to be MUCH higher than the "averages" you'll find online or other people may tell you. Maybe they wong in, or maybe they play-all... There's so many variables like I said sure I can give you some theoretical numbers, but they're completely erroneous for any meaningful calculations. What are you trying to figure out?
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UCivan
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May 12th, 2016 at 2:38:04 PM permalink
I am looking for the "theoretical" numbers. Something sounds logical, reasonable, and they can be used to convince casino executives or gaming agents / labs, why it's OK to offer lower house edge to 6 deck blackjack games and higher to 2 deck game. The answer is that because 6 decks play more hands than 2 decks, so at the end of the day, house gets the same hold in terms of $. It's for paper exercise. Thanks for the obvious. Everyone knows every player / dealer is different in real life.
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