sanisani
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November 3rd, 2015 at 2:16:31 AM permalink
hi people! I'm new to this forum and not sure where to post this topic. If i post it in wrong category please excuse me. I have invented new card game against dealer and im wondering if any casino/online casino will be interested in it. Please give me your opinions about it. Whether such thing might be interesting or it makes no point to try promoting it.
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November 4th, 2015 at 9:22:31 AM permalink
We would need to know the details of the game to give you opinions on whether it might be interesting.
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November 4th, 2015 at 9:49:47 AM permalink
Quote: sanisani

hi people! I'm new to this forum and not sure where to post this topic. If i post it in wrong category please excuse me. I have invented new card game against dealer and im wondering if any casino/online casino will be interested in it. Please give me your opinions about it. Whether such thing might be interesting or it makes no point to try promoting it.

If you've gone through some of the appropriate steps to where you're trying to pitch it to casinos then you should have a very good site/explanation of the game, you should know the math behind the game (which you should share here) and most game inventors looking to push their new game(s) have free play trial versions hosted online as well.

Do you have any of these?
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November 4th, 2015 at 10:02:56 AM permalink
You've come to the right place to get feedback on your game, if that is what you want. If so, you'll have to do your best to explain the rules.

If you're hoping casino table game managers will fawn over your game, then I wouldn't waste your time here. We're mostly other table game inventors trying to help each other out.
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November 4th, 2015 at 12:14:51 PM permalink
Quote: sanisani

hi people! I'm new to this forum and not sure where to post this topic. If i post it in wrong category please excuse me. I have invented new card game against dealer and im wondering if any casino/online casino will be interested in it. Please give me your opinions about it. Whether such thing might be interesting or it makes no point to try promoting it.



Casino operators are generally not interested in new games that lack "pedigree" - that is to say, lacking in laboratory math reports proving the game's solidity, and lacking executed IP (Intellectual property in terms of trademarks and patent), and official approval from gaming authorities such as state gaming commissions and control boards, etc. There's a surprising amount of work in producing a casino game. See the threads on this game inventors corner here at this site, plenty of info there (here).
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November 4th, 2015 at 1:27:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

You've come to the right place to get feedback on your game, if that is what you want. If so, you'll have to do your best to explain the rules.

If you're hoping casino table game managers will fawn over your game, then I wouldn't waste your time here. We're mostly other table game inventors trying to help each other out.



I could fawn, although for the next few months I am also the Acting Slot Manager at my casino, so my time is very limited right now. If I'm not able to fawn I can probably at least desiderate if it's a good game.


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November 4th, 2015 at 4:21:32 PM permalink
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hi - new to this forum and...have invented new card game...

Welcome and best of luck. As has been said there are quite a few games designers here, a few who have got games into casinos. I've never done it but have had some advice from others - so this is really secondhand.

There seem to be a variety of ways with new games depending on whether you want to do all the legal stuff or are willing to go shares with a company. Depending on your skill level you may need other people's help.

(i) House Edge
First of all design the game and work out the odds payable and House Edge - on some games it needs some options for the different markets (e.g. Blackjack peek/ENHC/h17) and for all but the simplest games may need some simulations as well (some games with lots of combinations are almost impossible to work out, so need simulations instead). Some casinos (perhaps all) need independent analysis to prove the House Edge. For some card games, there may also be a need for countability issues considerations, and also think whether any specific casino procedures might be needed.
(ii) Proprietary protection
I suspect you'll need a US patent (probably pending as I understand it) and thus you may need legal help. Obviously this costs money, so at this stage you may decide to pass this to a games company if they are interested.
(iii) Marketing
There are various places you can show your game. It is worth developing a website and may see several of these have a free-play option. There are a few trade shows, but I don't know them all. I'm guessing the biggest is in Las Vegas ( G2E ), obviously aimed for the US market, but I don't know the cost of these. In the UK Grosvenor organises a showcase for its own casino managers - I go to this as a punter so it also gives a good insight into the other types of games around (although only a few are ever trialled).

I sense the investment cost is fairly high and the chances of being lucky are not great,, so it's quite a risky venture - nevertheless there are a few games that have stayed around. At the end of the day your game has to replace one that's already there, so it has to offer something different that people enjoy playing while still making the casino some money, ideally more than the other game did.
sanisani
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November 5th, 2015 at 5:14:34 AM permalink
I would love to give details. But I do not hold any patent or copyright for it... That's why i cant give details. If I give details it will not be my idea any more. In my country patent law doesn't allow to patent any sort of game. Only way to patent my idea is to get US patent.

Thanks everyone for your feedback. Just wanted to get other peoples' opinions whether its worth trying to get patent and try to promote it.

Below i saw one good post with several options indicated. Yes it will be hard for me to do it on my own and i will need some support from particular people. For now I am considering any options, to give some share or give all rights. But its really hard because i can't give details and rules of the game. Hard to ask someone to put money in your idea while not telling the exact idea.

From all this probably the only reasonable thing is to patent it first and then suggest it to right people.

Again thanks everyone for sharing your opinions.
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