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October 5th, 2014 at 11:14:03 PM permalink
Hi All,

I just posted the Procedure Video for Money$uit 31 to youtube. After meeting with several directors they agreed i should upload a video so that people can see the ease of learning the game on both the player and operational sides.

All that know the game well already, i would like to hear your thoughts on the clarity of the video. All that are new to the game, Id certainly like to hear if you understand how to play after watching the demo hands.

As a result of the convention, I have three Vegas properties reviewing the game, two tribal California properties, one property in Michigan and one Pa property. Hopefully we will have another domestic trial of the final version within the upcoming months.

Please let me know your thoughts on the video and let me know if you have any suggestions etc...
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October 6th, 2014 at 9:47:48 AM permalink
Video refreshed my memory of the game and does a good job explaining it. This game is cleaner than several that I saw on the floor at the Show so it begs the question of what the criteria really is for a distributor to pick up a game. Best of luck Brent.
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October 6th, 2014 at 2:14:35 PM permalink
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Video refreshed my memory of the game and does a good job explaining it. This game is cleaner than several that I saw on the floor at the Show so it begs the question of what the criteria really is for a distributor to pick up a game. Best of luck Brent.



Thanks for the kind words Mike!
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October 6th, 2014 at 3:05:19 PM permalink
Brent,

I think it's a very good video. It is hard to read the dice at the resolution I'm watching, even full-screened, so I think you might benefit from 3 sentences or so when we first encounter the dice. "Two dice are used to determine the MoneySuit; one has the major suits (or say "spades and hearts") on 3 sides and minor suits (or say "clubs and diamonds") on the other 3. The second die has "Red" on 3 sides and "Black" on the other three. The two together provide an equal, random chance for any suit to be the MoneySuit on a particular hand."

I also think an add-on/cut-in with a video close-up of the paytables would be very useful, so they can be read. I think it would help both in a practical sense, and for people to understand the concept of designating and holding the MoneySuit.

And, unless it's required in the state where you're installing, I think the game field is very "busy" with 4 paytables per player; there's an intimidation factor in that display for people walking up; makes it look harder than it is. Is it possible to put them in the field where spots 1&2 share, 3&4 share, 5&6 share? Perhaps between the bet circles for the bonus with the bonus paytable, and between the card/bet circles for the main paytable? I'm sure there's a good reason you did what you did, but I wanted to feed back my first impression on the felt.

All FWIW. Again, a very good video.
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October 7th, 2014 at 9:26:55 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Brent,

I think it's a very good video. It is hard to read the dice at the resolution I'm watching, even full-screened, so I think you might benefit from 3 sentences or so when we first encounter the dice. "Two dice are used to determine the MoneySuit; one has the major suits (or say "spades and hearts") on 3 sides and minor suits (or say "clubs and diamonds") on the other 3. The second die has "Red" on 3 sides and "Black" on the other three. The two together provide an equal, random chance for any suit to be the MoneySuit on a particular hand."

I also think an add-on/cut-in with a video close-up of the paytables would be very useful, so they can be read. I think it would help both in a practical sense, and for people to understand the concept of designating and holding the MoneySuit.

And, unless it's required in the state where you're installing, I think the game field is very "busy" with 4 paytables per player; there's an intimidation factor in that display for people walking up; makes it look harder than it is. Is it possible to put them in the field where spots 1&2 share, 3&4 share, 5&6 share? Perhaps between the bet circles for the bonus with the bonus paytable, and between the card/bet circles for the main paytable? I'm sure there's a good reason you did what you did, but I wanted to feed back my first impression on the felt.

All FWIW. Again, a very good video.



Hi Babs,

Thank you for the kind words. As far as the Dice issue, I dont have that problem as I would assume you aren't watching in HD. However, due to the fact that I call out the Money$uit, I feel that even if others have this issue, this will be sufficient.

Due to the unavailability of any complex editing programs on my end I dont have the ability to add the paytable zooms that you had suggested. However, Im not sure it is entirely necessary as when most people that I use this video to introduce the game to typically have the paytables accessible.

Thank you for watching and again for the kind words!
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October 7th, 2014 at 11:56:15 AM permalink
I'll give you an honest review with both good and bad thoughts =p. Is the game played from a shuffler with 1 deck? Would it be played from a shoe with more than one deck? Of course for your 'demo' you showed what, 9 hands get played and only 1 fold. I have a feeling there 'should' be a lot more folding going on during the actual game. Figuring 1 deck, so 13 per suit, if you have 1 of a suit (of course) on average that card will be worth ~7.3. Taking other dealt cards as random, you'd have a 12/49 ~= 24.5% chance of drawing another one, which again, on average would be ~7.3, thus totaling your hand (on average) to ~14.6... I'm just spitballing, there's a bunch more probability draws/etc to be evaluated. I'm just trying to get a quick feel.

I'm not a fan of games with the ante usually. My gut instinct tells me that you will get 2 suited cards often, but will fall short of the required 17 points majority of the time. I'm not surprised of course, this is a casino game, but I'm curious because in the video you said the math is very good for the player. Could you expand on the math at all? What HE are you calculating this game at?

The video was rather clear in explaining the game, in my opinion (I just didn't like the set hands so everyone got paid off the majority of the time, as that could be misleading if this was put in front of a lot of people). The game actually does seem kind of fun; I'll probably try it out for fun at home later =).

Side bet tip: You should have an optional side bet for "Rainbow Hand" or something... This is where players could bet like $1 and if they get 4 different suits it pays X-1. Obviously a bad bet as it's "hedging" but from your perspective an idea I suppose.
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October 7th, 2014 at 1:15:46 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I'll give you an honest review with both good and bad thoughts =p. Is the game played from a shuffler with 1 deck? Would it be played from a shoe with more than one deck? Of course for your 'demo' you showed what, 9 hands get played and only 1 fold. I have a feeling there 'should' be a lot more folding going on during the actual game. Figuring 1 deck, so 13 per suit, if you have 1 of a suit (of course) on average that card will be worth ~7.3. Taking other dealt cards as random, you'd have a 12/49 ~= 24.5% chance of drawing another one, which again, on average would be ~7.3, thus totaling your hand (on average) to ~14.6... I'm just spitballing, there's a bunch more probability draws/etc to be evaluated. I'm just trying to get a quick feel.

I'm not a fan of games with the ante usually. My gut instinct tells me that you will get 2 suited cards often, but will fall short of the required 17 points majority of the time. I'm not surprised of course, this is a casino game, but I'm curious because in the video you said the math is very good for the player. Could you expand on the math at all? What HE are you calculating this game at?

The video was rather clear in explaining the game, in my opinion (I just didn't like the set hands so everyone got paid off the majority of the time, as that could be misleading if this was put in front of a lot of people). The game actually does seem kind of fun; I'll probably try it out for fun at home later =).



Hi Romes,

The math is GLI approved that appears on the website...

The HA on the base game is 2.24 with a 1.34 EOR and almost a 40% hit rate. This is pretty good considering the lack of multiple unit additional wagers... Also the side wager has a HA of 2.68 with a 28% hit rate. This should translate into a very fun player experience. Of course in a demo i need to preset the hands for primarily procedure purposes. However, i did not deal very big hands to give the impression that everyone will win a ton.

Let me know if you happen to get around to messing with the game demo. That will give you a real feel for the game as it is completely random. The video is primarily a dealer training/demo tool.

Thank you for the kind words.

Side bet tip: You should have an optional side bet for "Rainbow Hand" or something... This is where players could bet like $1 and if they get 4 different suits it pays X-1. Obviously a bad bet as it's "hedging" but from your perspective an idea I suppose.
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October 7th, 2014 at 2:02:03 PM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

Thank you for the kind words.


Thanks for the response. After watching the video again I do have another question... Say a player has Ks-9h-Jh (as he does in your video at 6:20). Now lets say his 4th card gets turned up and is the As. He will have two qualifying suits. Does this default to whichever one is higher? Does the moneysuit matter? Is this some kind of double winner since he's made two winning suits?

This could also go in that rainbow sidebet for "no moneysuits" or "multiple moneysuits"...
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October 7th, 2014 at 2:20:14 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Thanks for the response. After watching the video again I do have another question... Say a player has Ks-9h-Jh (as he does in your video at 6:20). Now lets say his 4th card gets turned up and is the As. He will have two qualifying suits. Does this default to whichever one is higher? Does the moneysuit matter? Is this some kind of double winner since he's made two winning suits?

This could also go in that rainbow sidebet for "no moneysuits" or "multiple moneysuits"...



For the base game (ante and play) the highest hand gets paid, just like in ultimate or four card... The money$uit only matters if the player will get paid more :)

I had forgotten to address this earlier, but the game is a single 52 card game (no jokers) shuffled after every hand.... It is played very similar to three card poker with the addition of a draw card...
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October 7th, 2014 at 2:20:37 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Thanks for the response. After watching the video again I do have another question... Say a player has Ks-9h-Jh (as he does in your video at 6:20). Now lets say his 4th card gets turned up and is the As. He will have two qualifying suits. Does this default to whichever one is higher? Does the moneysuit matter? Is this some kind of double winner since he's made two winning suits?

This could also go in that rainbow sidebet for "no moneysuits" or "multiple moneysuits"...



Romes,

Not to answer for Brent, but go to MoneySuit31 and play the demo; it's a lot of fun and will address your questions.
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October 7th, 2014 at 2:26:59 PM permalink
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Romes,

Not to answer for Brent, but go to MoneySuit31 and play the demo; it's a lot of fun and will address your questions.



Thank you Babs :)
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October 7th, 2014 at 8:08:07 PM permalink
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Quote: beachbumbabs

Romes,

Not to answer for Brent, but go to MoneySuit31 and play the demo; it's a lot of fun and will address your questions.



Thank you Babs :)



Here ya go, Brent. How much do you owe me now? ;)



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October 8th, 2014 at 5:53:42 AM permalink
Im still waiting on that natural M$ Mini Royal Pic. When I see that, then we will talk ;) haha
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October 11th, 2014 at 3:00:33 PM permalink
See Babs, I can draw to it also... :) But its still not the Mini Royal.

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October 11th, 2014 at 3:08:46 PM permalink
Not even close, pal. lol....
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October 12th, 2014 at 9:33:43 AM permalink
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Not even close, pal. lol....



Now what Babs, now What...? haha

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October 15th, 2014 at 6:55:18 AM permalink
Its a throwback, but here is proof I have at least hit it once in my day. Ahh the original version, those were the days... (sorry about the massive image)

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October 15th, 2014 at 3:03:23 PM permalink
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Its a throwback, but here is proof I have at least hit it once in my day. Ahh the original version, those were the days... (sorry about the massive image)



Sa-weeeeet! I'll have to work on one-upping this one...lol.
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October 16th, 2014 at 6:34:00 AM permalink
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Sa-weeeeet! I'll have to work on one-upping this one...lol.



Get to it! I haven't hit it on the new demo yet. And haven't been sent any pics of people doing so. It would be appropriate for the first one to be you after all of this chatter haha.
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