Exciting news for Poker For Roulette
April 9th, 2014 at 5:56:41 AM
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I got a great email from Rich Newman today. It was short, but sweet:
And thanks for explaining what 'allowance' means. I wouldn't have known. LOL
Now all I gotta do is get a game distributor as excited as I am. (No easy task...)
If you're new here, I created a Roulette side bet. Here's two links that will explain it:
http://Poker-For-Roulette.com
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/10276-poker-for-roulette-revised-now-with-3-4-and-5-spin-versions/
Thanks Rich!Quote: emailA notice of allowance issued on 4/4 - that means you got yourself a patent!
And thanks for explaining what 'allowance' means. I wouldn't have known. LOL
Now all I gotta do is get a game distributor as excited as I am. (No easy task...)
If you're new here, I created a Roulette side bet. Here's two links that will explain it:
http://Poker-For-Roulette.com
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/10276-poker-for-roulette-revised-now-with-3-4-and-5-spin-versions/
Last edited by: DJTeddyBear on Mar 21, 2021
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 9th, 2014 at 6:18:15 AM
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That is Nice. Congrats DJTeddyBear.
Good Luck with Poker-for-Roulette.
Good Luck with Poker-for-Roulette.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
April 9th, 2014 at 6:45:05 AM
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Now the fun really begins. GOOD LUCK !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
April 9th, 2014 at 11:17:39 AM
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Thanks for the kind words guys.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 9th, 2014 at 11:27:35 AM
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so ...
a patent now means some placements?
a patent now means some placements?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 9th, 2014 at 11:44:31 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitso ...
a patent now means some placements?
Sales ability and a good game means some placements, but Dave has got that.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
April 9th, 2014 at 12:08:33 PM
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I will gladly second that. Go get 'em DAVE !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
April 9th, 2014 at 1:15:35 PM
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Congrats Dave!!
Time to rack up some frequent flier miles, wear off some shoe leather & find a cheap hotel to lay your weary head at night :-).
I will be surprised if some electronic roulette manufacturer does not look to add PFR. For goodness sake, the game is so much better than Touchdown Roulette or whatever that football atrocity is on the floor right now.
Good Luck my Friend!!
Time to rack up some frequent flier miles, wear off some shoe leather & find a cheap hotel to lay your weary head at night :-).
I will be surprised if some electronic roulette manufacturer does not look to add PFR. For goodness sake, the game is so much better than Touchdown Roulette or whatever that football atrocity is on the floor right now.
Good Luck my Friend!!
April 9th, 2014 at 1:16:05 PM
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DJTB DJTB DJTB! (Banner on the corner of Times Square) Congratulations! That is so cool! You and TAE! Brothers! Seriously.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 9th, 2014 at 1:47:48 PM
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Thanks again gang!
Babs, I'm almost afraid to ask. What's TAE?
Not automatically. But if any distributor that was hesitant due to a lack of a patent, well, we're over that hurdle.Quote: odiousgambitso ...
a patent now means some placements?
Babs, I'm almost afraid to ask. What's TAE?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 9th, 2014 at 2:07:35 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearThanks again gang!
Not automatically. But if any distributor that was hesitant due to a lack of a patent, well, we're over that hurdle.
Babs, I'm almost afraid to ask. What's TAE?
Thomas Alva Edison. You're brothers from different mothers, now. :D
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 9th, 2014 at 2:25:57 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsThomas Alva Edison. You're brothers from different mothers, now. :D
I think Teddy has more in common with RG as an inventor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdPDn1KUz_A
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
April 9th, 2014 at 2:51:09 PM
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I love stuff like that. Big fan of component toys, too; brings out the geek in me.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 9th, 2014 at 2:57:29 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI love stuff like that. Big fan of component toys, too; brings out the geek in me.
See, we did have fun together. SIGH
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
April 9th, 2014 at 3:27:49 PM
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Great News, DJ!!!! Congratulations and continued success.
April 9th, 2014 at 3:31:37 PM
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Congrats on the patent! It is definitely an exciting accomplishment.
April 9th, 2014 at 3:31:54 PM
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Big congratulations, I know that the USPTO can be difficult to navigate. Would you happen to have an application or PG pub number? Just want to check it out.
Edit: Found it. Easy espacenet search with inventor name and "roulette" in the abstract.
Editx2: Thought about posting it and since I used public information this is the publication (going to be extremely similar to the upcoming patent except the claims).
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/claims?CC=US&NR=2012088565A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120412&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
https://www.google.com/patents/US20120088565?dq=US20120088565&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Js5FU7brBOrLsQTmjICYDA&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA
Some people like google patents more, but I use espacenet daily so I posted both.
Edit: Found it. Easy espacenet search with inventor name and "roulette" in the abstract.
Editx2: Thought about posting it and since I used public information this is the publication (going to be extremely similar to the upcoming patent except the claims).
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/claims?CC=US&NR=2012088565A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120412&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
https://www.google.com/patents/US20120088565?dq=US20120088565&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Js5FU7brBOrLsQTmjICYDA&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA
Some people like google patents more, but I use espacenet daily so I posted both.
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April 10th, 2014 at 9:25:32 AM
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Congratulations DJ. Getting an allowance is a BIG hurdle to clear. Now 'kick it' to the finish line. Good luck!
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill
April 10th, 2014 at 9:40:20 AM
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Thanks again everybody.
Finish line? I thought that IS the finish line - as far as the patent application is concerned anyway.Quote: LuckyCongratulations DJ. Getting an allowance is a BIG hurdle to clear. Now 'kick it' to the finish line. Good luck!
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 10th, 2014 at 9:44:17 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearThanks again everybody.
Finish line? I thought that IS the finish line - as far as the patent application is concerned anyway.
The finish line is to go live in a casino and make some money, so you can tell the Mrs. "See? I WASN'T a madman dreamer being obsessed with the project, - I'm a Captain of Industry - and here's a fur coat!"
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
April 10th, 2014 at 9:46:47 AM
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Ok. Cool.Quote: beachbumbabsThomas Alva Edison. You're brothers from different mothers, now. :D
But did you really think I'd know what TAE is?
Kinda makes me think of an interview I saw about 20 years ago. The interviewee was a real computer geek who responded to the question "What's the biggest problem facing computer programmers?"
Without missing a beat, he said "There are only about 17,000 TLAs."
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
April 10th, 2014 at 11:11:53 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanThe finish line is to go live in a casino and make some money, so you can tell the Mrs. "See? I WASN'T a madman dreamer being obsessed with the project, - I'm a Captain of Industry - and here's a fur coat!"
Exactly what I meant, Paigowdan.
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill
April 10th, 2014 at 12:41:47 PM
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How's it feel now that the finish line is in sight, Lucky ? Just hope that drunken jockey doesn't fall off !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
April 10th, 2014 at 1:11:15 PM
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Quote: BuzzardHow's it feel now that the finish line is in sight, Lucky ? Just hope that drunken jockey doesn't fall off !
The risk of 'falling off' is just as real as it was at the starting gate. So the 'jockey' has to push harder and with more determination than ever.
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill
April 10th, 2014 at 1:56:11 PM
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And fur coats come after recouping invested capital......to me the finish line is that first dollar above and beyond the dollars invested. And don't even start about calculating ROI when you add in the time value of money and the time value of......well, your time :-). Needless to say it is a very long race to the finish line.
April 10th, 2014 at 1:59:09 PM
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I am gonna post this before tree does. 1 way to win a horse race, 99 ways to lose it. Although in casino games might be closer to 999.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
May 26th, 2014 at 8:53:24 PM
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TeddyBear, any late breaking news ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
May 27th, 2014 at 4:56:44 AM
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Quote: BuzzardTeddyBear, any late breaking news ?
Sigh... Unfortunately, no. Not yet.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
May 27th, 2014 at 7:52:27 AM
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Hang in there djtb. Cheering for you.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
July 26th, 2014 at 10:31:43 AM
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I'm not sure how newsworthy this is, but any lingering doubts about whether or not the patent has been approved, have now vanished.Quote: BuzzardTeddyBear, any late breaking news ?
I still haven't gotten anything from the patent office, but the other day, I got a bill from my lawyer. The only new line item was the fee paid to the patent office, so I think that's the end of the line for lawyer fees (please don't tell me I'm wrong).
I also got three pieces of 'junk' mail. This is the 'real' confirmation.
Two of them are from companies that manufacture awards, plaques, and other items that can be "proudly displayed in my home or office, and/or given as recognition to key members of my development team." Yeah, ok. That might actually be cool to have, but I'm not even gonna ask how much the cheapest looking one is. Five bucks is more than I'd pay.
The other was a company that will help me market my product. Everything from print advertising, infomercials, and distribution to retailers nationwide. I'm tempted to contact them just to see how long they will work their pitch before reading my patent and discover it has no consumer / retail marketability.
Anyway, if you're interested: Google Patents # 8777716. And, yeah, I realize that this Google patent document is much better confirmation than the junk mail. But I only thought of doing that Google search now, as I was entering this post. And that lead me to a link for the USPTO Patent # 8777716.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
July 30th, 2014 at 8:46:01 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBear
Anyway, if you're interested: Google Patents # 8777716. And, yeah, I realize that this Google patent document is much better confirmation than the junk mail. But I only thought of doing that Google search now, as I was entering this post. And that lead me to a link for the USPTO Patent # 8777716.
So your patent number has a four of a kind (sevens at that) ... what does that payout in PFR (Patents for Roulette) ?
Learned Craps in 2013 .... Developed and have a PATENT on Craps "Back On Bet" side bet ...
Working on Craps game variations hope to have patents in 2018 - Second Chance Craps and Sub-Crap-tion ...
A completely new dice game idea is next - D.. Dice D......
July 31st, 2014 at 5:26:39 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI'm not sure how newsworthy this is, but any lingering doubts about whether or not the patent has been approved, have now vanished.
I still haven't gotten anything from the patent office, but the other day, I got a bill from my lawyer. The only new line item was the fee paid to the patent office, so I think that's the end of the line for lawyer fees (please don't tell me I'm wrong).
I also got three pieces of 'junk' mail. This is the 'real' confirmation.
Two of them are from companies that manufacture awards, plaques, and other items that can be "proudly displayed in my home or office, and/or given as recognition to key members of my development team." Yeah, ok. That might actually be cool to have, but I'm not even gonna ask how much the cheapest looking one is. Five bucks is more than I'd pay.
The other was a company that will help me market my product. Everything from print advertising, infomercials, and distribution to retailers nationwide. I'm tempted to contact them just to see how long they will work their pitch before reading my patent and discover it has no consumer / retail marketability.
Anyway, if you're interested: Google Patents # 8777716. And, yeah, I realize that this Google patent document is much better confirmation than the junk mail. But I only thought of doing that Google search now, as I was entering this post. And that lead me to a link for the USPTO Patent # 8777716.
Congrats on the patent! It's amazing how much junk mail you get once your patent gets issued. I have never ordered the plaques from any of the companies, but my patent attorney does for each patent that he writes. It is kind of neat to go to his office and see the 75 allowed patents on the walls.
July 31st, 2014 at 6:00:02 AM
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Quote: NewToCrapsSo your patent number has a four of a kind (sevens at that) ... what does that payout in PFR (Patents for Roulette) ?
The patent is based upon my first version, which was five spins. But it was also written so that the number of spins, types of winning combinations, and payouts shown, are just examples and can change.
The Poker For Roulette website math & payout page shows the combinations and payouts for 3, 4 and 5 spin versions.
To answer your specific question, a Four Of A Kind, in the five spin version, pays 1,000 for 1.
Edit:
After posting, I realized that you pointed out the 7777 in the patent number. That hadn't even occurred to me! Blame Foxwoods for that. Last paragraph in this post: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/other-games/14449-analyzing-the-firecracker-bingo/#post253224
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
August 2nd, 2014 at 8:23:52 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI realized that you pointed out the 7777 in the patent number. That hadn't even occurred to me!
The Rainbow Roulette patent number is 8,777,223, I thought it was a good sign that it has three 7's, but four 7's is a really good sign!
October 12th, 2014 at 5:23:03 AM
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So, I was wondering if this has to do with you in anyway.
http://www.interblock.eu/usa/products/G5-diamond/roulette-generator/
Has their new sidebet "Big Poker Roulette".
And if not, will your patent protect you.
http://www.interblock.eu/usa/products/G5-diamond/roulette-generator/
Has their new sidebet "Big Poker Roulette".
And if not, will your patent protect you.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 12th, 2014 at 8:49:39 AM
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No. I've got nothing to do with Interblock's Big Poker Roulette.
Additionally, I don't think there is an overlap of concepts.
There isn't a lot of info on their site, but my guess is that the bettor places a bet on red, black OR straight. My concept is that the bettor places a bet that ANY of a variety of outcomes will occur. Probably other differences, but I think that's enough.
But thanks for looking out for me. :)
Additionally, I don't think there is an overlap of concepts.
There isn't a lot of info on their site, but my guess is that the bettor places a bet on red, black OR straight. My concept is that the bettor places a bet that ANY of a variety of outcomes will occur. Probably other differences, but I think that's enough.
But thanks for looking out for me. :)
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
