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I have been developed a game for some time now. I built it all myself, I do have a programmer that works with me. The game is very much in the beta phase. So I'm looking for feedback, advise, and all that good stuff.
Anyway, here it is casinobaseballgame.com
Thanks everyone!
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13I just went there and gave it a try and have no idea what the heck is going on. I think you're going to need some playing rules. I played once, don't know why I lost, and quit.
ZCore13
I played it a little longer than that, have no idea what happened, won 400 overall and quit. Seems I hit a sideout bet at 40-1 towards the end. Can't figure out the relationship to the cards in the diamond with the dice rolls, why a dice roll that's good for me one time is bad for me the next, or what the betting rules are.
Quote: Zcore13I just went there and gave it a try and have no idea what the heck is going on. I think you're going to need some playing rules. I played once, don't know why I lost, and quit.
Same here. I studied the layout, but couldn't figure out how the mechanics worked to win the various payouts. I know the rules and terms of baseball, but I found myself clueless as to how to play this game. Result: I didn't even make the first roll.
This could be a great game, but the demo needs to have some descriptive rules and play procedures for someone like me to even test it.
Something like that, of course is very expensive to have produced, and that is what slows down the development of the game. And I would be lying to you, if I said it wasn't frustrating. Does anyone have any ideas around that? Something, I am not thinking of?
Thanks again everyone, truly appreciate some kind of response.
https://www.google.com/patents/US6755420
Note to new game developers: Google Patent Search is very handy. Finding this reference took me less than 60 seconds with the query "casino dice baseball".
Quote: endermikeTake a look at how the rules of games are explained on Wizard of Odds. Focus on the overall core rules of the game (like pass/don't in craps). Then expand the rules to cover the more exotic bets. Are you planing on the game being a table game or an electronic one?
Electronic, it would be way too complicated for a human dealer to follow unfortunately.
Quote: MathExtremistAre you Roland Colton? If not, you may want to consider spending your time on something else:
https://www.google.com/patents/US6755420
Note to new game developers: Google Patent Search is very handy. Finding this reference took me less than 60 seconds with the query "casino dice baseball".
Maybe this is Roland we are talking to here. I find it hard to believe someone would've gotten as far as this OP did without having checked existing patents.
I've always felt there could be a nice niche for sports themed table games, if done right
Quote: MathExtremistAre you Roland Colton? If not, you may want to consider spending your time on something else:
Note to new game developers: Google Patent Search is very handy. Finding this reference took me less than 60 seconds with the query "casino dice baseball".
Yeah I know about him. I actually tried to reach out to him a number of years ago, but I believe he is in some legal trouble according to my own Google research. He has actually a number of patents similar to mine. Around 2011, I found a slot machine demo based on one of his patents, but I can't find it anymore. It was a pretty interesting concept, wish he would have kept with it, really.
I can't patent anyway, this website has been up for close to a year. I also have the www.crapsbaseball.com domain that I have had since 2010, so you're not really bursting my bubble.
This is more a labor of love, to use that cliche. Perhaps I'll find a different way to get into the casino.
Quote: casinobaseballYeah I know about him. I actually tried to reach out to him a number of years ago, but I believe he is in some legal trouble according to my own Google research. He has actually a number of patents similar to mine. Around 2011, I found a slot machine demo based on one of his patents, but I can't find it anymore. It was a pretty interesting concept, wish he would have kept with it, really.
I can't patent anyway, this website has been up for close to a year. I also have the www.crapsbaseball.com domain that I have had since 2010, so you're not really bursting my bubble.
This is more a labor of love, to use that cliche. Perhaps I'll find a different way to get into the casino.
Honestly, I'd try Japan. This game is far too complicated for the US market if a human dealer can't handle it.
I understand the bets, but I have no clue what's required to make any of the bets win or lose. I.E., I see the batter had a hit, but don't know why he had a double rather than a single.
Quote: MathExtremistHonestly, I'd try Japan. This game is far too complicated for the US market if a human dealer can't handle it.
That has crossed my mind, MathExtremist. No idea where to start. Thanks, though :-)
Quote: casinobaseballThanks for the feedback everyone. I kind of already figured the complexity of the game would be a big hurdle. I would like to ask you what you think would be the best way to present the rules? I don't think laying them out in a large text file would work, because no one would want to read them. I have been advised that perhaps installing a virtual type dealer would be the best approach. Would you agree?
Something like that, of course is very expensive to have produced, and that is what slows down the development of the game. And I would be lying to you, if I said it wasn't frustrating. Does anyone have any ideas around that? Something, I am not thinking of?
Thanks again everyone, truly appreciate some kind of response.
1 - what does the playing card signify?
2 - what roll is what? It appeared as though 1-2 and 6-6 were sacrifices of some sort (runner advanced, batter was out).
With the layout so similar to craps, consider laying out the rules similarly to the craps rules on the Wizard of Odds site (as suggested above).
Quote: TerribleTom1 - what does the playing card signify?
2 - what roll is what? It appeared as though 1-2 and 6-6 were sacrifices of some sort (runner advanced, batter was out).
With the layout so similar to craps, consider laying out the rules similarly to the craps rules on the Wizard of Odds site (as suggested above).
The playing card just impacts different rolls/plays in disparate ways. For example, there is a man on third. An Ace comes up when a 5-1 is rolled on the point six. A single is rolled for the batter, and because of the Ace the man on third instead of scoring, stays on third base. Sometimes a card can also change the outcome for a batter. For example, the point is 8 and the shooter rolls a 5-3. Normally, it should be a Homerun, but if a TWO is showing on the card, then it becomes an Out.
The rules are arbitrary, but they are made so the stats mimic a real life baseball game.
Heck yes, even those darned "pull tabs" have a baseball season and a football season.Quote: michael99000I've always felt there could be a nice niche for sports themed table games, if done right
Electronic dealer only? Heck, Beer Pong brought in one million a year to Vegas casino. Get a bunch of drunken sports fan around a table game and its a money maker.
Quote: casinobaseballElectronic, it would be way too complicated for a human dealer to follow unfortunately.
If it's too complicated for a dealer, what chance does a player have? Most players will avoid it, or quit after just a few minutes.
That was the case with me. I tried your demo. I won a few bucks.
But I have NO idea WHY I won. I played a little longer and lost. Again, I have no idea why.
I'm reminded of the first time I stepped up to, I believe 4 Card Poker. I never saw it before, and it was an empty table. I asked the dealer how it works. He said, "You put your money down, and the casino makes it go away."
Needless to say, I didn't try that game.
I wouldn't try your game either.
I don't mind losing, but I gotta know why. After all, if I don't know why, how can I make any decisions about my next bet?
Quote: DJTeddyBear
I'm reminded of the first time I stepped up to, I believe 4 Card Poker. I never saw it before, and it was an empty table. I asked the dealer how it works. He said, "You put your money down, and the casino makes it go away
I'm surprised he didn't say "I get 6 cards you get 5, you've got no chance", which is the usual reasoning I hear from dealers or other players as why not to play.
Quote: MathExtremistAre you Roland Colton? If not, you may want to consider spending your time on something else:
https://www.google.com/patents/US6755420
Note to new game developers: Google Patent Search is very handy. Finding this reference took me less than 60 seconds with the query "casino dice baseball".
Colton's game uses 3 dice, this appears to use 2 dice and a standard deck of cards.. I believe it to be different enough from one another, just as sharp shooter and firebet are similar but different.
I am still working on my game that can be found at casinobaseballgame.com. You can login using any combination of username and password.
My most recent addition is that at the end of each half inning, a report populates showing what kind of rolls occurred in the inning or any previous inning. You can see how many rolls occurred when the button was OFF or ON. There is also a breakdown of rolls per the point number. And an analysis on the points made as well.
Next, I would like to have a tutorial installed so users understand what is going on in the game :-).
Thank you.
