Fastest Way To Accumulate Tier Credits
Quote: odiousgambitand in case you were wondering, any game with $25,000 coin-in that has that little theoretical loss will be known to the casino. They will know that was what you were playing and you will get little in the way of comps.
Ok then thats a waste because all i care about is free rooms
Check the Totalrewards.com website. You may need to use the search function, but you will eventually find info that when you "earn" 2500 tier credits in one day, you get 5000 bonus. Rinse and Repeat. That gets you to Diamond Level.Quote: DrZielieand go to Las Vegas 6-7 Times per year, Ive never been able to get to Diamond(other than my founders card gave me diamond free) but I would Appreciate any and all help from people who seem to have a good idea of how to acrue tier credits via the daily bonus and which slot or machine play to use.
I like the Diamond Level to get 2 free show tix per month, and access to Diamond Lounges in Vegas.
Quote: JohnnyQCheck the Totalrewards.com website. You may need to use the search function, but you will eventually find info that when you "earn" 2500 tier credits in one day, you get 5000 bonus. Repeat. That gets you to Diamond Level.
I like the Diamond Level to get 2 free show tix per month, and access to Diamond Lounges in Vegas.
This is it. You want to focus your play so that you can hit at least the 1k/1k bonus. This is pretty damn hard with that bankroll on table games (very similar to me).
It's all about the bonus, 15k would be very impressive without it.
Do note that usually once per year they do promotions to earn massive quantities of tier credits. This past year I believe they did "whatever you earn in these 3 months we'll match up to 25k." So if you did diamond in a day then, you'd basically get Aspirations Level 1. Or, you could do half of it and expect to lose only half of that EV and then get the bonuses to get diamond.
As JohnnyQ said, research their site. It has all the answers you want =).
Just checked My TR for play on Sun night, hit the 125 Tier Point Bonus based on my play. I am so excited (sarcasm)! Still high Diamond thru the year based on last year's play. I am so excited (sarcasm). It is what it is, they know I like to play. They know me too well....Quote: ahiromuThis is it. You want to focus your play so that you can hit at least the 1k/1k bonus. This is pretty damn hard with that bankroll on table games (very similar to me).
It's all about the bonus, 15k would be very impressive without it.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLJust checked My TR for play on Sun night, hit the 125 Tier Point Bonus based on my play. I am so excited (sarcasm)! Still high Diamond thru the year based on last year's play. I am so excited (sarcasm). It is what it is, they know I like to play. They know me too well....
Funny you say that. A year ago, my first real time playing at CET, I was learning Pai Gow at $100 a hand. Earned 1k tier points so easily... but now I always end up at 800-900 playing craps with a bigger bankroll. Might have to finish it off with 3-5 hand JoB next time.
Oh what the heck, Here it IsQuote: Romes
As JohnnyQ said, research their site. It has all the answers you want =).
And I've heard this very website can have a wealth of iniformation.....
My First Year at the Diamond Level with CET
Yep, IIRC, you could get a 50 % bonus on Tier Credits earned Jan - Mar 2015, up to some limit, like Romes pointed out.Quote: Romes
Do note that usually once per year they do promotions to earn massive quantities of tier credits. This past year I believe they did "whatever you earn in these 3 months we'll match up to 25k."
I haven't seen anything as good as that this year. Yet.
Quote: RomesIf you want to "earn" diamond your best bet other than other promotions is probably the daily bonuses with VP. You said you take $2-$3k when you go. If you can play 99% VP (which even though I know most caesars removed 9-6 JoB they still have 99% deuces) then you can play X hands to generate 2,500 points, which gets you 5,000 point bonus. Your expected loss is easy to calculate. In years past when we did diamond in a day our expected loss was about $300... and we ended up being down about $350, but got 2 buffets that night, $200 in return rewards the next week, $100 diamond dinner, free rooms for trips, etc, etc. It's beyond worth it, in my opinion.
Do note that usually once per year they do promotions to earn massive quantities of tier credits. This past year I believe they did "whatever you earn in these 3 months we'll match up to 25k." So if you did diamond in a day then, you'd basically get Aspirations Level 1. Or, you could do half of it and expect to lose only half of that EV and then get the bonuses to get diamond.
As JohnnyQ said, research their site. It has all the answers you want =).
Thanks for the tip, as Im well aware of the bonus level matches and hoping to get there but Ive sat at the Extra bar in PH for hours pumping hundreds into 10 play $1 JOB and only got like 300-400 tier credits and to top it off I Lost like $400, So why does everyone keep saying lose only $300 and get 2,500 credits ??
Quote: DrZielieIve been a Total Rewards Platinum member now for 4-5 years and go to Las Vegas 6-7 Times per year, Ive never been able to get to Diamond(other than my founders card gave me diamond free) but I would Appreciate any and all help from people who seem to have a good idea of how to acrue tier credits via the daily bonus and which slot or machine play to use. I usually go for 2-4 days and usually only take 2-3k dollars with me each time. I read an old post on this forum where someone stated a money in of 25,000 could expect a 700 dollar loss?? obviously im cool with that but how does it work please, thanks for your reply in advance
I did DiaD with $2 9/6 JoB last year.
$50k coin-in. 8hrs playing straight.
I ran good.
+$1k and I didn't hit a royal or a straight flush.
Plus:
4days later, got an email saying I got $200 in freeplay.
200/50k = .4%
also, that 50k coin-in = 5k rc = $50 comps
50/50k = .1%
9/6 JoB = 99.5% + .4% +.1% = 0% house edge!
Quote: DrZielieThanks for the tip, as Im well aware of the bonus level matches and hoping to get there but Ive sat at the Extra bar in PH for hours pumping hundreds into 10 play $1 JOB and only got like 300-400 tier credits and to top it off I Lost like $400, So why does everyone keep saying lose only $300 and get 2,500 credits ??
Sometimes you run good sometimes you run bad. On average it'd be -$300.
Quote: RSSometimes you run good sometimes you run bad. On average it'd be -$300.
I must be playing the wrong games or something, do you do it with only one hand ? Because i usually play 5 play or 10 play and $1 credit. Im assuming that your just committing to the machine with the entire bankroll and hoping through ups and downs you end up around 300 down right ?? Because like ive said I usually play at PH extra bar and usually play 10 play and ive never gotten more than 300-400 credits on 400-500 dollars lost
Quote: DRichI did the DIAD last weekend in Laughlin. Played the 50 play ten cent Bonus Deuces. It took just about four hours to get in the $50k coin in. I ended up down just over $300 which was better than expected. In the past Harrah's has sent me multiple $200 free play vouchers after doing DIAD.
lucky you.
horseshoe only sent me one for my diad but it was the 1st time I made diamond.
before that, I only played 75 credits each visit (once a week) for the $10 Return Rewards.
haven't tried to make diamond this year yet because they downgraded all the vp. :(
~98% is now their best vp :(
Quote: DrZielieSo you played $5 total per hand Bonus Deuces for four hours ??? I usually play 10 play $1 credits so $10 per draw and ive never got anywhere near even 1,000 TC on 500 dollars ?? What am i doing wrong ??
No, it was a 10 cent machine and I was betting 5 credits per hand. So the bet was $0.50 x 50 hands for a total of $25 per game. I was playing about 500 games per hour.
Check out a very helpful site called VPFREE2.com, and see what each casino has to offer.Quote: DrZieliewhich CZR casino in vegas would you reccomend ? And do you just play single hand or what? sorry for questions just looking for some help
Also, look carefully. Some CZR VP Machines are $ 10 coin-in = 1 Tier Credit. The best paytables are (now) more coin-in, I think up to $50 per Tier Credit.
Played 4 hrs 2 weeks ago, avg at least Black chip, earned 125 bonus, so less than 1000 TC rewarded for play.
So I played 8 hours last weekend (that wasn't actually the plan but I wound up having to dig myself out of a hole). So I figured with double the play, I'd get double the TC. Nope, still just a 125 bonus, meaning I still just 'earned' between 500 and 1000 TC from play. I'm going to have to remember to write down my TC before I play so I see exactly what gets credited but I swear it seems like they were adding up faster last year ;-(
I did Blackjack on a couple table max bets (1K) during the evening which aways helps the swing, but I lost several table max bets during the evening too. No doubles or splits on any table max bets this time, so I didn't need the extra underwear I brought along ;-)
Quote: DrZielieSo you played $5 total per hand Bonus Deuces for four hours ??? I usually play 10 play $1 credits so $10 per draw and ive never got anywhere near even 1,000 TC on 500 dollars ?? What am i doing wrong ??
1) You're not max betting.
2) You aren't bringing enough money. IMO, should bring 15-20% of however much coin in you want to do. If you want to do $10,000 coin in, bring at least $1500-2000.
3) VP is a volatile game. Although you might expect to lose $300, you could lose $2,000 [or more]. A lot of the payback (about 2%) is in the royal flush. And if you aren't hitting 4oaks as frequently as you expect to be hitting them, you're gonna run through money fast.
4) Learn proper strategy. I have a feeling you don't know it.
At least on points 2 and 3, anyway. I can't attest to 1 or 4 because I'm not sharp enough this early in the a.m.
For me - I don't even look much at Tier credits. I have a tendency to perhaps play more than I should if I think I'm close to a tier reward, so I just avoid looking at those details. I don't want to "work" for my comps. I want to play what I want to play, when I want to play it. If I get the nice comps and vip treatment, great. If not, that stinks, but I did what I wanted to do, not what the evil marketers would have me do, dangling the figurative carrot just out of reach.
It was $25 a hand on multiplay.
I had a very small edge. Under 1%
Very volatile game.
Since I played 4000 hands I figured bringing 10% or so of my expected coin in, in losses would be enough. If it was less hands being played with the same denomination I would have brought more. If the game was less volatile I would have brought less. I also shared action with another player so we smoothed out the variance a bit.
A good rule of thumb is to figure out what the game would cost you if you didn't hit a royal, and bring about 5x that amount. With 9/6 jacks being very low variance and at 97.56% without a royal, if you are looking to coin in $20k, the loss would be about $2440, so bring about $3000. Obviously anything can happen, you could tank $2000 right away and make some of it back towards the duration of your play, or hit a royal and pretty much guarantee you'd be up. Adjust for high volatility games, multi-play, extra coin bonuses (such as QQ, STP, or UX).
but they are $25 machines, so takes balls to play them
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Quote: RS1) You're not max betting.
2) You aren't bringing enough money. IMO, should bring 15-20% of however much coin in you want to do. If you want to do $10,000 coin in, bring at least $1500-2000.
3) VP is a volatile game. Although you might expect to lose $300, you could lose $2,000 [or more]. A lot of the payback (about 2%) is in the royal flush. And if you aren't hitting 4oaks as frequently as you expect to be hitting them, you're gonna run through money fast.
4) Learn proper strategy. I have a feeling you don't know it.
1. I bet max on any machine i play
2. I'm taking 3000 cash
3. i agree
4. i dont understand where to learn proper as i went to and got the software, under intermediate i was the god of correct hands, under advanced i couldnt get 5/5 to save my life. but was playing the same way. so confused for sure
The Wizard of Odds VP page does a really good job of explaining everything you need to know about VP. A little down the page, there's a section called "Playing Strategy." In these links, the Wizard gives you the proper strategy for a few games. All you have to do is follow the instructions for each hand you are dealt.Quote: DrZieliei dont understand where to learn proper as i went to and got the software, under intermediate i was the god of correct hands, under advanced i couldnt get 5/5 to save my life. but was playing the same way. so confused for sure
If you don't see your game, or if your paytable differs from the the one listed on the strategy guide, there is also a section a little further down called "Strategy Maker" where you can generate a proper strategy for any game with any paytable.
When you are ready to play, head over the the WoO "Play for Fun" game. Pick your game and practice your strategy. If you click the Warn on strategy errors button, the game will tell you when you make a mistake.
I've never used any other software, so I can't help you there.
Quote: Bondy3at Ceasars Palace there are 2 9/6 Jack or better machines that give 1 point per $10 coin in, those are technically the best way to earn TCs
but they are $25 machines, so takes balls to play them
I would LOVE to play that for diamond in a day.
$50k coin-in = 400 hands = 1/2 hr
to put it in perspective:
my diad at $2 9/6 JoB took 8hrs sitting at that machine w/just pee breaks.
but positive variance visited me. +$1000 w/o a royal or straight flush!
I don't think I was EVER down.
plus a royal @ $25 denom= $100k!
and maybe better comps since you're playing at $25 machines?
HotBlonde plays that machine.Quote: Bondy3at Ceasars Palace there are 2 9/6 Jack or better machines that give 1 point per $10 coin in, those are technically the best way to earn TCs
but they are $25 machines, so takes balls to play them
So what you said is patently false. :)
Is there another Total Rewards casino somewhere (maybe outside of Nevada?) that will give me more than 1 TC for $10 coin in on VP?
Well not that I know of, but PM me if you find one ! In the past, CZR has run an annual promo where you can get a bonus on your Tier Credits. Typically, it is a X % bonus on what you have earned for a 3 month period.Quote: seanAre there CZR locations in the USA that offer more than 1 TC for $10 coin in on video poker?
Is there another Total Rewards casino somewhere (maybe outside of Nevada?) that will give me more than 1 TC for $10 coin in on VP?
Also, don't forget that you can "earn" bonus daily tier credits if you hit a certain level, like 1000. See the Total Rewards website and use the search function for something along the lines of "bonus tier".
Quote: seanAre there CZR locations in the USA that offer more than 1 TC for $10 coin in on video poker? I understand $10 coin in for 1 TC is standard for Video Poker in Vegas unless the machine is labeled as a $50 for 1 TC machine (like at Cromwell)
Is there another Total Rewards casino somewhere (maybe outside of Nevada?) that will give me more than 1 TC for $10 coin in on VP?
I've not heard of any. The ones in AC are mostly $50 per point, though there are a few at $20 per point.
