Currently platinum but want to move up!

Hi everyone, this is my first post but I have been reading this site for many years, I come from the UK and visit LV once a year sometimes twice a year, and sometimes I visit AC once a year.

I am visiting LV at the start of April and will be staying 1 week, I am then visiting AC at the end of May for 1 week, both times I will be staying at Caesars (5 nights comped) in LV - AC not booked yet - will try and get all nights comped.

I am currently a platinum TR member with zero gambling so far this year (last gambled Aug 2014), but that will all change in a week or so.

This reward credits and tier credits is all so very confusing, all I know is I don't want to be Platinum any longer and want to move up! I will be bringing a bank roll of a $20k with me and will be playing (mainly) $10 a spin slots, $25+ BJ and some $100 let it ride (it's fun).

I will play slots for about 6 hours a day then mix it up with the table games.

I have seen that I need 15,000 Tier Credits to get Diamond status and 150,000 Tier Credits to get Seven Stars status.

How much do I need to bet in one day (my first day) on the slots to get diamond status (and will it be given to me immediately - after the 1st day), and do you think it will be possible to hit Seven Stars status before I leave in a week.

In addition my wife is currently gold, she doesn't bet much, how much would she need to bet to get to Platinum status in a day?

Can you give me some tips and advise to achieve these please?

Thank you for your input, I really appreciate it.

DIAD or Diamond In A Day is a "promotion" (kind of?) that total rewards is running. If you earn 5,000 Tier Credits in a gaming day (a gaming day is usually from 6am to 6am or 4am to 4am, depending on the property (as opposed to a "regular day" from midnight to midnight). Once you earn 5k TCs in a day, you'll get a 10k bonus.

Or you can earn 2.5k TCs in a day and get a 5k bonus (7.5k total) and do that twice on your trip on 2 different days.

5,000 TCs is $25,000 coin in on slot machines or $50,000 coin in on most video poker machines. Have you played VP before? If not, you might want to check it out. Running $50,000 coin in at Caesars will probably cost $750 to do. Well, that's how much you expect to lose. But with variance, you could lose or win big. It's fun to play, even for a gambler and not an AP. (Sounds like you're not an AP.)

It usually takes less than 24 hours for the system to update your tier level, in my experience.


If you're there for 5 nights, that 6 total days. Earning the 10k bonus each day, that puts you at 60k in bonuses leaving 90k TCs remaining to be earned over 6 days. That's 900k coin in. You could do 150,000 coin in each day. You'd get 15k TC for regular play and an extra 10k each day for the bonus. That's 25k a day. 25k x 6 days = 150k TC. Good luck!!

Hi, makuk, and welcome. Hope you enjoy both trips!

For tier credits, the easiest way for you to get Diamond in a day is to play those $10 slots (there's a big difference between slots and video poker; not positive which one you're calling 'slots'). The clock in Vegas at Caesar's goes from 6am to 6am. If you earn 5000 points in that 24 hours, you'll have your diamond. If you do it on slots, you'll need to have put $25,000 coin-in. On Video Poker, it will take $50,000 coin-in unless the video poker says something different (than 1 point for every $10 played).

Most if not all tables pay less tier credits than slots, and many pay less tier credits than video poker. BJ is one of the worst for tier point accumulation. Let-It-Ride is one of the best, but I don't think it's as good as slots. Probably better than Video Poker. (Caesar's doesn't provide public formulas for table game points like they do for slots and video poker, so I'm estimating). Other table games that are good for tier-building; Mississippi Stud, High Card Flush. Games that are bad for tier-building; PaiGowPoker, Craps, Baccarat. Medium games; Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Ultimate Texas Hold-Em. Again, my experience (several years diamond) only, since I don't have access to their computation formula.

I think it's a long long way to 7Star with a 20K bankroll; you'd have to get very lucky for it to last that long. Once you get your 5000, you can go immediately to the total rewards desk and ask them to review your account (assuming you did it all on slots). They should issue you Diamond cards on the spot. However, your reward credits, and what their computer system shows if you check it online, will probably lag half a day or more; depends on when you get your points, and when the pit closes out your account if you're playing tables.

EDIT: RS and I made nearly the same reply; takes a few minutes to type, but our responses match pretty well.

Thank you both for taking the time to respond, it is much appreciated, so I can pretty much guarantee that I will get to diamond on the first day if not in a couple of days of arriving, but not much chance of getting to 7star whilst there.

Perhaps after my trip to AC in May and my return visit in December to LV I might be a little closer to 7Star.

On another note I have never received an email from TR regarding comps or promotions, I stayed at Ballys in May 2014 in LV and Caesars in AC in Aug 2014 and have a room booked in Caesars in LV in a weeks time, I am a current Platinum member yet have never received anything by post or email from them, is this normal or should I call them and ask them why this is?

And I think I may give VP a go to mix things up a little more - at the end of the day I am there to have fun because there ain't much fun in the UK :-)

Thanks again for your feedback and help :-)

I'm pretty certain that Caesars doesn't send offers to those outside the U.S. When you're in Vegas, stop at any Total Rewards Center and ask. Make sure they have your email address and that they haven't accidentally marked your account as opting out of emails. Good luck and enjoy your trip!

Thank you I will do that :-)

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I'm pretty certain that Caesars doesn't send offers to those outside the U.S. When you're in Vegas, stop at any Total Rewards Center and ask. Make sure they have your email address and that they haven't accidentally marked your account as opting out of emails. Good luck and enjoy your trip!

I get mailers and email offers in Canada, as they have a casino in Windsor.

Not sure how useful it would be in your particular situation but you might want to investigate founders card which will let you buy your way into Diamond

Quote: ACMama

I'm pretty certain that Caesars doesn't send offers to those outside the U.S. When you're in Vegas, stop at any Total Rewards Center and ask. Make sure they have your email address and that they haven't accidentally marked your account as opting out of emails. Good luck and enjoy your trip!

I have received offers in Canada for since the 80's. This was long before Caesars had a presence in Canada. I used to recieve just mailers but all offers are now e-mail and I typical get an e-mail or 2 a day.

TR is affiliated with several casinos in London recently. Are you getting mailers from them? I know the Empire is one of them, not sure of the others' names but can find them for you if you don't know which they are.

Anyway, I would think they're marketing their local properties to you, not trying to get you to come to AC or Vegas; I could be wrong.

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TR is affiliated with several casinos in London recently. Are you getting mailers from them? I know the Empire is one of them, not sure of the others' names but can find them for you if you don't know which they are.

Anyway, I would think they're marketing their local properties to you, not trying to get you to come to AC or Vegas; I could be wrong.

I am on the Left coast Babs no Caesar's casinos near me. They are all Vegas offers. Last time I was in LV was a little over a year ago but as mentioned I do have a long history with them. Allegiant flights from Bellingham, WA can be as little as $150 return.

kenarman,

I was talking to the OP, who lives in the UK, sorry. Makes sense to me that you'd get Vegas offers.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Hi, makuk, and welcome. Hope you enjoy both trips!

For tier credits, the easiest way for you to get Diamond in a day is to play those $10 slots (there's a big difference between slots and video poker; not positive which one you're calling 'slots'). The clock in Vegas at Caesar's goes from 6am to 6am. If you earn 5000 points in that 24 hours, you'll have your diamond. If you do it on slots, you'll need to have put $25,000 coin-in. On Video Poker, it will take $50,000 coin-in unless the video poker says something different (than 1 point for every $10 played).

Most if not all tables pay less tier credits than slots, and many pay less tier credits than video poker. BJ is one of the worst for tier point accumulation. Let-It-Ride is one of the best, but I don't think it's as good as slots. Probably better than Video Poker. (Caesar's doesn't provide public formulas for table game points like they do for slots and video poker, so I'm estimating). Other table games that are good for tier-building; Mississippi Stud, High Card Flush. Games that are bad for tier-building; PaiGowPoker, Craps, Baccarat. Medium games; Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Ultimate Texas Hold-Em. Again, my experience (several years diamond) only, since I don't have access to their computation formula.

I think it's a long long way to 7Star with a 20K bankroll; you'd have to get very lucky for it to last that long. Once you get your 5000, you can go immediately to the total rewards desk and ask them to review your account (assuming you did it all on slots). They should issue you Diamond cards on the spot. However, your reward credits, and what their computer system shows if you check it online, will probably lag half a day or more; depends on when you get your points, and when the pit closes out your account if you're playing tables.

EDIT: RS and I made nearly the same reply; takes a few minutes to type, but our responses match pretty well.

Playing slots is terrible advice.

$25K coin in on slots means like a $2 - 5K theoretical loss.

$50K coin in on VP means like a $500 theoretical loss if a good paytable is chosen.

And you can forget about trying to earn a lot of tier points at table games at a ceasars property.

He said in his initial post that he plays slots. In his follow-up, he says he's going to play some VP. I didn't TELL him to play slots; I told him what I knew about how CET credits tiers.

Theo only helps if you know the strategy; hopefully he's going to print out some good ones from WizardofOdds before he comes over, maybe even take the time to join videopoker.com and practice, or even pay for the tutoring function there.

But if he's simply trying to get DIAD, there is no faster way than slots with a 20K bankroll to work with. Yes, his theoretical loss is greater. But it is, in the end, his money.

FWIW, it cost me about -$700 to get my diamond last year (in 2 days). But I had some good variance on Quick Hit Platinums, and I've gotten considerably more value out of it than that since then.

Sorry I've not been around the last few days, tidying up on work before I arrive on Saturday, yes beachbumbabs is right, I like playing slots and don't expect to come home with any of my bank roll, I am in vegas just to have fun and let off some steam, if I get lucky and win a few $'s that will just be spent on fast cars and alcohol, in fact I have just booked a Mclaren MP4 for the day so that should be fun.

To answer the earlier questions I have never received anything from Caesars for any hotel in their group anywhere, which is a little disappointing to say the least!

Hi everyone, I have now been back a week or so from my Vegas trip and thought I would let you know how it all went (in case you were interested).

I had 2 rooms booked in Caesars for the week, both of which were comped before we left for 4 nights out of the 7 nights, which left us with about $800 to pay when we checked out. On arrival we were given our rooms on the 19th floor in the Palace Tower (very nice) with the swimming pool directly at the bottom of the lifts so very convenient.

After 3 days of being at the hotel inlcuding the 3rd night being a heavy one and getting to bed at 7am, I received a phone call at the room around 11:30am from the European Casino host who said he would like to meet me that day - My first thoughts were oh dear, exactly how much did I lose last night! (You really don't want to know!).

When I met with him around lunch time he advised me that he had cleared my current bill on both of my rooms (the remaining $800) and that if there was anything else he could help me with then to get in touch with him - Well Mr Casino Host, I am actually going to Atlantic City in May is there anything you can do for me for there? Leave that with me he says and he will get back to me (more to follow on that).

I spent the remainder of my holiday doing what I had intended to do which was to gamble and have fun. You may recall at the start of this thread I wanted to know how to get to Diamond status from my current Platinum Status and could I do it in a day! Well you wouldn't believe it but I actually missed out on the diamond in a day on my first day by a rediculous 400 Tier Credits, damn I was gutted and should have been paying attention, but I have to admit the 10 Buds I had that night really didn't help!

Never mind, naturally I achieved my Diamond Status by the time I left, in fact I achieved 41,458 tier credits in the week I was there which moved me up to Diamond Aspiration Level 1.

After I had returned home from Vegas, I received an email from the Casino Host in Vegas and Atlantic City advising me that they had booked me two premium rooms for the week in May at Atlantic City and they were both comped for the week.

All in all I was very impressed with the service that I received from Caesars Vegas and Atlantic City and am looking forward to doing it all again in May - Thanks for reading :-)

Really glad you had a good time at Caesar's, and especially that they treated you like the good customer you are, with the host bumping up your comps (as they should have IMO). That's an impressive rack-up of tier credits, way beyond what I've ever done in a single visit. Don't forget to use your Diamond Celebration dinner credit while you're in AC - I almost missed out on mine because they don't usually prompt you to use it; it just sits in your account until you ask for it. Should be at least $100 (maybe more with D Aspiration; I don't know).

Makuk, it sounds like they really took care of you. That is nice to hear because around here most people only complain about the service and lack of comps/

Don't forget to check the totalrewards.com website for other offers you might get.

makuk,

41k points in a week?

god.. when i made DIAD (5k tier credits, 10k bonus tc), it took 8hrs at 9/6 JoB ($2 denom).
it felt like a job. the fun stopped at like the 5th hr.

how many of those 41k points were bonus points?
what were u playing?

and congrats!
remember, that celebration dinner offer expires at the end of the quarter! (at least the base diamond does. no idea about Aspirations lvl1.)

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makuk,

41k points in a week?

god.. when i made DIAD (5k tier credits, 10k bonus tc), it took 8hrs at 9/6 JoB ($2 denom).
it felt like a job. the fun stopped at like the 5th hr.

how many of those 41k points were bonus points?
what were u playing?

and congrats!
remember, that celebration dinner offer expires at the end of the quarter! (at least the base diamond does. no idea about Aspirations lvl1.)

Yeah, the really jaw-dropping part (to me) is that he just missed the 50% TC bonus that ended March 31. He must've gotten the regular tier bumps, but still; wow.

Hi all, thanks for your posts I was playing mainly slots, anywhere from $2.50 / $3.50 (max bet) a spin on the 1c machines to $10.00 / $20.00 a spin on the $1 machines, I was playing every day anywhere between 5 and 10 hours a day, I was lucky enough to hit some really nice wins when I was there which helped my bank roll, the largest was just over $5k, but to be fair they got all of it back in the end!

I also played some 3 card and let it ride, anywhere from $50 to $100 a hand but soon got bored of those, they ate my money to be fair and I couldn't hit a darn thing.

I don't think many of my points were bonus points, is there any way I can tell?

All in all Caesars were great and really looked after me so I have absolutley no complaints about the whole trip, I'll let you know how I get on in AC in a few weeks, at the rate I'm going (losing) I'll be 7 stars in no time :-)

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Hi all, thanks for your posts I was playing mainly slots, anywhere from $2.50 / $3.50 (max bet) a spin on the 1c machines to $10.00 / $20.00 a spin on the $1 machines, I was playing every day anywhere between 5 and 10 hours a day, I was lucky enough to hit some really nice wins when I was there which helped my bank roll, the largest was just over $5k, but to be fair they got all of it back in the end!

I also played some 3 card and let it ride, anywhere from $50 to $100 a hand but soon got bored of those, they ate my money to be fair and I couldn't hit a darn thing.

I don't think many of my points were bonus points, is there any way I can tell?

All in all Caesars were great and really looked after me so I have absolutley no complaints about the whole trip, I'll let you know how I get on in AC in a few weeks, at the rate I'm going (losing) I'll be 7 stars in no time :-)

Yeah, if you go to the total rewards website and sign in, there's a monthly accounting (though this one won't be available to you until about May 7 since you did it in April) in the menu to the left on your account page. It breaks down what you earned and what was bonus, but I don't think it gives you a daily accounting. However, I get an email each day I'm playing after they close the books saying what I earned the previous 24 hours and how much bonus was awarded, so you should have the same (perhaps you have to opt in to receiving them). Those emails are the best indication I've seen.

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Yeah, if you go to the total rewards website and sign in, there's a monthly accounting (though this one won't be available to you until about May 7 since you did it in April) in the menu to the left on your account page. It breaks down what you earned and what was bonus, but I don't think it gives you a daily accounting. However, I get an email each day I'm playing after they close the books saying what I earned the previous 24 hours and how much bonus was awarded, so you should have the same (perhaps you have to opt in to receiving them). Those emails are the best indication I've seen.

I don't see an option for daily summary in my TR account :(

can you check you acct and see what option it is?

Yeah, as I said above, I don't think it gives you a daily accounting anywhere. Just by the month, and in the aggregate. After you sign-in, there's a menu on the left with 6-7 options. The last one is "TR Statement". Click that, and it will ask you which month you want to view. The statement will tell you how much you accumulated by gaming, shopping, TR Visa, etc, and tell you what specific things you redeemed points for in that month.

The best source for what I did any given day is the emails they send. In that same menu after sign-in, there's a "profile" page. Click that and make sure they have your current email address, and that you're allowing them to contact you with information. You should then start receiving the daily updates (and other comp offers; I see about 10 of those a week) the day after you play, each day. They'll tell you how many tier points you earned, how much bonus points were awarded, other stuff. But I would suggest you leave the profile contact set to "no preference" so they continue to send hard mailers as well; the offers don't always overlap.

ahh.. 'contact me' option.

thought that was on already based on the amount of emails I get from caesars in a week. (about 1 every other day.)

so now I should be getting 10 emails/week from them, but one of them will be my daily statement of my play the day before?

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Hi all, thanks for your posts I was playing mainly slots, anywhere from $2.50 / $3.50 (max bet) a spin on the 1c machines to $10.00 / $20.00 a spin on the $1 machines, I was playing every day anywhere between 5 and 10 hours a day, I was lucky enough to hit some really nice wins when I was there which helped my bank roll, the largest was just over $5k, but to be fair they got all of it back in the end!

I also played some 3 card and let it ride, anywhere from $50 to $100 a hand but soon got bored of those, they ate my money to be fair and I couldn't hit a darn thing.

I don't think many of my points were bonus points, is there any way I can tell?

All in all Caesars were great and really looked after me so I have absolutley no complaints about the whole trip, I'll let you know how I get on in AC in a few weeks, at the rate I'm going (losing) I'll be 7 stars in no time :-)

Playing slots really gets the hosts attention, they will give you plenty of extras above what normally comes with tier levels.

I have 7 star and it's not worth the hassle, the big factor in determining your comps is ADT. Just having 7star means you get to cut in lines, go into the diamond lounge, get free WIFI in your room, but the first 2 you can already do with Diamond. Also you do get free upgrades for rooms at 7star if they have it available, but I don't see the point in losing more theo to get a nicer room. It was nice when I stayed at CP last time with a 2 bedroom suite but I don't consider it essential to have a big room, only that it's smoking.

Now I heard 7 star is invite only. This means no more playing 9/6 jacks for the daily bonus until you hit 150k tier points.

Going back to my first point which was ADT. Show a big theo loss every time you use the card and you should start getting some offers. My best offers have been when I was a lowly platinum because my ADT was so high.

You should have $750 in airfare also for Diamond Aspirations Level I. That's not much from Europe but at least it's something. Might be able to get you a round-trip for one person to the U.S. in off-peak times (maybe even peak?)

(Edit: Never mind, that's Level II).