It's ALL about Tier Credits and not coin-in?

At my local Caesar's casino, it's $45 coin-in for 1 tier credit for 9/6 JoB.

all the standard $10 coin-in for 1 TC machines are ~97.5% range.
ie: 8/5 JoB, Deuces Wild, and DDB.

There's an on-going promo of 75 TC to get a $10 bounce back offer.
You can do this promo everyday if you want.

For a $1 97.6% DW machine, that's $750 coin-in.
expected loss to get 75 TC on the $1 97.6% DW machine is $18.
18 - 10 = $8 -> cost of me having fun/entertainment.

For 9/6 JoB, that's $3375 coin-in. (denoms are $1,2,5,10)
Expected loss is $16.88.

I find DW more fun to play than JoB. and yes, it's worth 'paying' $1.12 more to play it.

Do increased coin-in also affect marketing offers to me?
If so then I have no problem playing 9/6 JoB.
I can be bought. :)

Quote: 100xOdds

At my local Caesar's casino, it's $45 coin-in for 1 tier credit for 9/6 JoB.

So how much trouble is it for them to keep their own website up-to-date, which says:

"You will earn 1 Tier Credit for each $5 you play on reel machines and $10 for video poker".

Link

Quote: JohnnyQ

So how much trouble is it for them to keep their own website up-to-date, which says:

"You will earn 1 Tier Credit for each $5 you play on reel machines and $10 for video poker".

Link

in general, it's still correct.

standard is $10 coin-in for 1 TC for VP.

but for VP machines with low HE, the coin-in increases.
ie: $45 coin-in for 1 TC for 9/6 JoB that I mentioned in my OP

Caesars AC is $50 for 1 Tier on 9/6.

Just to be technical, you can't just deduct $10 from your expected loss. You would have to subtract the expected loss from using that $10.

No one can answer whether the increased coin in will get you more offers. Casino marketing can never be figured out, especially with caesars.

Are you planning on stopping after playing for 40 min? If so then it seems like you will spend more in gas than its worth. Plus only getting 75 tier credits is going to get you almost nothing in other mailers, even if it is everyday.

Quote: Boz

Caesars AC is $50 for 1 Tier on 9/6.

At the Horseshoe near me, it is $ 10 coin in for 1 Tier Credit on 9/6 JoB.

Quote: JohnnyQ

At the Horseshoe near me, it is $ 10 coin in for 1 Tier Credit on 9/6 JoB.

Which horseshoe...are you sure it's 9/6. I'm not questioning your claim...just never seen that at any CET property.

Quote: JohnnyQ

At the Horseshoe near me, it is $ 10 coin in for 1 Tier Credit on 9/6 JoB.

if its the one in Baltimore, they changed it this month from $10 to $45 coin-in :(
(there's a little plaque on the machine that says this.)

Oh crap, is this the wave of the future at CZR ?

back to my original question:

Do increased coin-in also affect marketing offers to me?
($750 vs $3375 coin-in for 75 tc)

Quote: 100xOdds

if its the one in Baltimore, they changed it this month from $10 to $45 coin-in :(
(there's a little plaque on the machine that says this.)

Thats what I was getting at.

Tier credits only matter for limited value promotions like stated by OP and if you can get close to 7 stars with worthwhile offers, it may be worth it to play slightly more. Ooh and you get .02% more cashback when you level up. Diamond lounge? I am not going to put any value on popcorn, pretzels, fountain pop, second shelf liquor and second rate show tickets. Otherwise I wouldn't care if it's 10 or $10,000 per tier credit. Yes you have to play more for same offer on better machines, but they don't need to put a sticker on it for that to be the case, those machines already required a lot of play to get squat.

Quote: 100xOdds

back to my original question:

Do increased coin-in also affect marketing offers to me?
($750 vs $3375 coin-in for 75 tc)

Yes and no. Sorry for the cryptic answer.

It depends on how their system rates you (its different from casino to casino) and it also depends on your own history of play.

From the way you describe your intentions to use the offer, I doubt it will have much affect on your future marketing offers

Quote: 100xOdds

back to my original question:

Do increased coin-in also affect marketing offers to me?
($750 vs $3375 coin-in for 75 tc)

In my experience it's $ not coin in. I had a pretty sweet up and down run at Caeser's and asked from some charge off comps and they told me to pound sand. I only came out of pocket about $900 for the weekend although I made something like 2,000 tier credits. With $1,500 out of pocket, and comparable coin in they gave me everything at Harrah's. Granted the properties vary but in the end, my offers are far better where I drop hard cash VS where I get a lot of play.

Quote: Thrasher

In my experience it's $ not coin in.

I'm not sure what you mean by dollars and no coin in. Isn't coin-in representative of dollars bet?

To answer the question of 100xOdds: marketing offers are based on various factors including your coin-in. Yes, increased coin-in should help your offers but keep in mind that Caesars uses a three month rolling average and one big session might not have a big impact. However, I recently ran into a problem where one small session drastically reduced my offers by 50%.

What happened was that somehow a roulette game entered my account number for buying in for less than $100, making a couple of bets, and leaving with about $50.

In reality I never play roulette, AND I wasn't even at Caesars Palace that weekend.

This one bogus session slammed me in the computers and for the past six months, my host has been trying to "undo" the error. Meanwhile my marketing offers are half what they used to be and it's all because of this one error.

Offers are based on a variety of things. Primarily, ADT and MDV. But even smaller things, that you really can't have an impact on, are things like zip code, gender, or other unknowns (hell, maybe you get better offers if you play from 10pm to 2am and worse offers if you play from 8am to 12pm[noon]....or maybe if you have family/spouse with a card has an effect.....or maybe if you play on holidays you get better offers.......or maybe playing several small sessions in one day is better than one big session [same amount coin in, same machine, etc.] or vice versa......or maybe there's a tiny bug in the offer generating code that gives better offers to people that have a lot of even numbers in their phone number and worse offers to people with lots of odd numbers in their phone number [well, maybe that's a stretch].....). All of those have justifiable reasons. I'm not saying those reasons don't come into play, but, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they were a tiny factor.

I do think zip codes make a difference on hotel comps. I live at least 2-4 hours away from the CET casinos I play at and talking to the locals it seems that I get better hotel comps than they do. It also makes sense since the casino really would prefer to save those rooms for out of town guest who won't come without a room.