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February 3rd, 2014 at 8:56:25 AM permalink
I did not see a post here about this yet, apologies if I missed it.

I got an email from Caesars announcing ....wait for it...

The Cromwell, The Only Luxury Boutique Hotel & Casino on The Strip!

Does anyone else think that's a really dumb name?
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:16:01 AM permalink
Wow, ya that's horrible. Where is this going to be located?
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:16:26 AM permalink
Really dumb.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:18:20 AM permalink
Better than the Gansevoort originally proposed
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:18:47 AM permalink
I like the name.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:19:55 AM permalink
I have relatives living in Cromwell Ct. so I'm used to the name. Most people think the town was named after Oliver Cromwell but it was actually named after a ship that was named after Cromwell. It's confusing and weird.

Yea, it's a dumb name for Vegas.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:24:08 AM permalink
(it's a perfectly cromulent word)

I don't quite understand the concept of placing an "intimate" hotel at the busiest intersection.

They're downplaying the casino, so possibly they hope to channel into the success of Revel in AC.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 10:07:53 AM permalink
Quote: Knuckleball3

Wow, ya that's horrible. Where is this going to be located?


The old Bill's site.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 10:51:38 AM permalink
It's been discussed on other forums.

I hate the name. Makes me think of a very posh hotel where old ladies sit around the lobby, drinking hot tea, pinkies out.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 10:58:04 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Makes me think of a very posh hotel where old ladies sit around the lobby, drinking hot tea, pinkies out.


It made me think of the scene in Conan the Barbarian where Conan yells "CROM!!!!!"

But I haven't gotten much sleep lately.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 1:02:59 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

Better than the Gansevoort originally proposed



+1

Cromwell might seem random and arbitrary, but at least it is not outright stupid, nor is it part of the letter conservation movement.

For your consideration: THE Hotel, The D, SLS, M, The Quad, LVH

Go Cromwell!

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May 2nd, 2014 at 6:34:43 PM permalink
I stopped at Cromwell last weekend to check it out.

New, sleek, yet empty.

A weird sight to see a long line of table games, dealers standing, trying to look attentive, with NOBODY playing.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 8:00:05 PM permalink
I imagine that some Irishmen might not be particularly enamoured of that name, hey hey.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 8:30:16 PM permalink
I was there last night. Here is a count of their table games:

Legitimate BJ: 4
6-5 "21": 28
Pai gow poker: 4
Roulette: 4
Let it Ride: 2
Mississippi Stud: 2
High Card Flush: 1
Double Draw Poker: 1
Texas Hold 'Em Bonus: 1
Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em: 1
Crazy 4 Poker: 1
Three Card Poker: 5
Craps: 4
War: 1
Big 6: 1

High limit room:

Legitimate BJ: 3
Baccarat: 1

No sports book.
No poker room.
No bingo.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 8:33:48 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I stopped at Cromwell last weekend to check it out.

New, sleek, yet empty.

A weird sight to see a long line of table games, dealers standing, trying to look attentive, with NOBODY playing.



Yeah, I did that same thing. On Monday, I went to the Max and Cromwell. I'm 99.96% sure that there were more players at the Max than there were at the Cromwell, even though the Max is 1/3 the size and off the strip. I suppose the Westin is a functioning upscale hotel and that may have helped feed players to the Max, but it was creepy how dead the Cromwell was.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 9:03:32 PM permalink
no roulette?
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May 2nd, 2014 at 10:23:14 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

no roulette?



I suspect that if things don't get better there, the suits running the joint will play the Russian variant of the game.
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May 2nd, 2014 at 11:34:35 PM permalink
Double Draw makes it to Vegas!

Eagerly awaits a page on the game... ;)

Quote: GWAE

no roulette?



Shocking.

Quote: MrV

I suspect that if things don't get better there, the suits running the joint will play the Russian variant of the game.



Possibly.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 2:23:57 AM permalink
Cromwell has roulette.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 6:29:45 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

no roulette?



Sorry, they have four roulette tables.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 6:30:51 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Double Draw makes it to Vegas!

Eagerly awaits a page on the game... ;)



I'm planning to add a page soon.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 11:26:03 AM permalink
4. Tables at 3to 2. 28 tables at 6 to 5. Does this mean that the boycott failed .? ? ?

How long before players will j6st assme bj pqys 6 to 5 except in high limit room ?

I keqn jobody is gonna ask if the roulette tables were single zero.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 11:27:39 AM permalink
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May 3rd, 2014 at 11:34:15 AM permalink
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Someone translate this please :-P

typing on a tablet. The point I was m a king is that everyone assumes it will be double zeros on roulette table unless told otherwise, 6 to 5 will soon become the assumed payoff in bj. Or as the late w c fields so aptly declared Never smarten up a chump!!!
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May 3rd, 2014 at 2:37:08 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I was there last night. Here is a count of their table games:

Legitimate BJ: 4
6-5 "21": 28



This very high 6:5 to Legit ratio seems to be common in most strip casinos.

I wonder if any of those 4 Legit tables was less than $50 min.

With few exceptions, most of the Strip 3:2 tables that I saw were $50 min everywhere I went.

I recently did my own survey in anticipation of my next trip and Bellagio told me the do not have any 6:5.

But of course, that could change at any time.
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May 3rd, 2014 at 2:42:27 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko

I wonder if any of those 4 Legit tables was less than $50 min.



They were at a $15 minimum when I was there.
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:45:45 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

And here I thought that was from Evenbob!

EB = Buzzard. Been obvious for a while.
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May 4th, 2014 at 8:47:20 AM permalink
They have 64 tables (68 counting roulette) in that footprint? Isn't that significantly higher than what was at Bill's before?
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May 4th, 2014 at 8:58:54 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman

EB = Buzzard. Been obvious for a while.



If Charles is Evenbob, that's the best trolling of all time.
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August 3rd, 2014 at 2:02:30 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I was there last night. Here is a count of their table games:

Legitimate BJ: 4
6-5 "21": 28
Pai gow poker: 4
Roulette: 4
Let it Ride: 2
Mississippi Stud: 2
High Card Flush: 1
Double Draw Poker: 1
Texas Hold 'Em Bonus: 1
Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em: 1
Crazy 4 Poker: 1
Three Card Poker: 5
Craps: 4
War: 1
Big 6: 1

High limit room:

Legitimate BJ: 3
Baccarat: 1

No sports book.
No poker room.
No bingo.



They have one low limit ($25) Baccarat table with the Dragon Bonus. Dropped by there last Tuesday when I visited Vegas again. Man it is hot over there during the summer. Very nice hotel/casino. Good job with the renovation with the place. But really missed the cheap eats when it was Bill's.
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August 3rd, 2014 at 6:46:17 PM permalink
They don't care about gambling and/or gamblers. Just tourists who know not how and wish free rooms in exchange for giving up their chance to win.
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August 4th, 2014 at 6:52:20 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

They don't care about gambling and/or gamblers. Just tourists who know not how and wish free rooms in exchange for giving up their chance to win.



6/5 Hit on Soft 17 BJ. LOL. This is the new normal for Vegas and all these folks still flock to them!
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March 10th, 2015 at 8:27:06 AM permalink
Is the Cromwell still a convenient place to park? I know it was a hidden gem while it was Bills, just wondering if anything has changed
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March 10th, 2015 at 9:15:03 AM permalink
It is. Enter parking from the side street, there's a portico on the back side for valet, entry to self-parking off to the side of the same driveway.
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March 10th, 2015 at 10:24:53 AM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

6/5 Hit on Soft 17 BJ. LOL. This is the new normal for Vegas and all these folks still flock to them!


Of course they do! Don't you watch The Simpsons ? There's a "new" surefire way to win thousands at blackjack without getting caught!

Step 1: learn to count
Step 2: seriously, learn to count properly
Step 3: when the count is high, give the signal for your confederate at the bar to join the game and bet big
Step 4: leave before the security goons get their hands on you (no, I don't know why security didn't bother to watch all of the exits, since they have cameras pretty much everywhere)
Step 5: since they have your photos, return using disguises (no, I don't know why they just didn't go to another casino)
Step 6: under no circumstances do you let your dimwit husband have any idea where you are or what you are doing.
Step 7: if, somehow, your dimwit husband ends up being held in some casino backroom for some reason and is threatened unless the "stolen" money is returned, appeal to the casino's corporate owners (no, I don't know why they simply didn't respond, "Er, you are aware that holding him with force against his will is kidnapping, right? No, he's not trespassing, and "taking things into your own hands" earned O.J. Simpson a hefty prison sentence, so what makes you think you can get away with it?")

And why do I have the feeling that the ending of that episode (where Homer stands up for card counters and is promptly tossed out of the casino) was written by somebody who has been backed off at least once?
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:52:36 AM permalink
RE Cromwell
You (or anyone else) didn't happen to catch any low limit ($5-$10) Craps or BJ or tables, and if so I'll assume they would be in the 6/5 for BJ category?
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September 20th, 2018 at 10:00:14 AM permalink
That is funny, from the Barbary Coast, a total dump, to the "Cramwell!!"
From $99 ! (not including their resort fee).

The only saving grace is that Drai"s is still there, (oh the joy) but I guess it's on the roof now? Only $600 for bottle service by the pool for "Nelly" Damn I'm going to miss it.
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September 20th, 2018 at 10:19:17 AM permalink
Quote: BenJammin

RE Cromwell
You (or anyone else) didn't happen to catch any low limit ($5-$10) Craps or BJ or tables, and if so I'll assume they would be in the 6/5 for BJ category?



I'd be surprised if they didn't; for a while, they've been advertising themselves to be the best value on the strip, with 3:2BJ and Single-0 roulette. Last time I was there, 25$ 2D 3:2 tables were pretty much empty, while there were other tables of lower limits that were packed, though I'm not sure is they were 5, 10, or 15.
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September 20th, 2018 at 4:43:37 PM permalink
Quote: BenJammin

RE Cromwell
You (or anyone else) didn't happen to catch any low limit ($5-$10) Craps or BJ or tables, and if so I'll assume they would be in the 6/5 for BJ category?


Well, it was in the morning, but when I was there in June, they had a $10 craps game that was crowded - but I stopped paying attention when I saw the 9/6 quarter JoB machines. (You read that right - 9/6 Jacks or Better, 25 cents a credit, and yes it was the Cromwell)
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September 20th, 2018 at 8:01:53 PM permalink
Does the Cromwell still have 100x odds at craps?
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November 6th, 2018 at 11:01:10 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Does the Cromwell still have 100x odds at craps?


Yes. 100x odds
And the double deck and shoe games often are $15 in the morning.
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November 6th, 2018 at 11:01:53 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Well, it was in the morning, but when I was there in June, they had a $10 craps game that was crowded - but I stopped paying attention when I saw the 9/6 quarter JoB machines. (You read that right - 9/6 Jacks or Better, 25 cents a credit, and yes it was the Cromwell)


Caution of those 9/6 machines. They accrue points at $50 coin in to one tier credit.
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November 6th, 2018 at 3:21:15 PM permalink
Quote: Yelruh

Caution of those 9/6 machines. They accrue points at $50 coin in to one tier credit.

Correct, thank-you. When I was playing for Diamond with whatever daily bonuses and seasonal bonuses were in place, I went to the CET off-strip property.
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October 23rd, 2019 at 8:43:19 AM permalink
Bringing this forward into active casinos as the Cromwell, by request. Will be asking the techs to place a Cromwell topic by title. Thanks.
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December 25th, 2019 at 7:45:37 AM permalink
Quote: Yelruh

Yes. 100x odds
And the double deck and shoe games often are $15 in the morning.


An often unheralded jewel.

Rooms? meh? I never care.
Buffets?
Buffet lines?

But 100x at craps, I want to watch that action and i'd sure love to be able to actually play it.

Beats trekking to Colorado to put $2.00 on the pass line and back it up with $50.00 in odds.
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December 25th, 2019 at 2:29:38 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

An often unheralded jewel.

Rooms? meh? I never care.
Buffets?
Buffet lines?

But 100x at craps, I want to watch that action and i'd sure love to be able to actually play it.

Beats trekking to Colorado to put $2.00 on the pass line and back it up with $50.00 in odds.



Really good drinks at the bar still comped while playing low level VP. I’m sure decent tipping doesn’t hurt but never had an issue and a close walk to the restrooms.

Little things matter to Boz and wife loves the Martini’s so it’s a must stop every strip trip.
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December 28th, 2019 at 6:23:47 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Really good drinks at the bar still comped while playing low level VP. I’m sure decent tipping doesn’t hurt but never had an issue and a close walk to the restrooms.

Little things matter to Boz and wife loves the Martini’s so it’s a must stop every strip trip.



It also doesn't hurt that they have the friendliest dealers on the strip. I once asked them why the dealers in Cromwell seem so much more welcoming than all those robot dealers on the strip, and they said the Cromwell does extra screenings in their hiring process to only hire friendly and bubbly personalities.
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December 28th, 2019 at 7:11:36 AM permalink
I never play at the Cromwell.
All the dealers I play with are friendly, and all of them know my name. I gave one of the girls a rose a couple trips ago.

I think the Cromwell is where someone I know got busted for counterfeit chips not long ago. He hasn't given me all the details yet, but I know he was playing at the Cromwell that trip.
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