AlanMendelson
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November 10th, 2011 at 7:14:07 AM permalink
Harrah's Rincon in San Diego has what they call "Bonus Poker" but it has an unusual pay table. It is available only at the $25 and $100 per coin games. I just looked but did not touch. LOL

Here's the paytable with 5 coins played:

Royal 4000
SF 250
All quads 175 (including aces and 2s, 3s, 4s)
FH 40
Flush 25
Straight 20
3 oak 15
2 pair 10
JorB 5

99.6613% Does this game have another name somewhere else?

For the rest of us playing $10 per coin or less they have 8/5 bonus with the traditional paytable. They also have Aces and Faces paying more for Royalty rather than the small cards.
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November 10th, 2011 at 8:06:02 AM permalink
I've seen that game a couple other places for $0.25, most notably at Majestic Star casino in Gary, Ind.

It doesn't have a name and I think it is just another option for the paytable at bonus poker. Great low variance/high return game if you can find it.
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November 10th, 2011 at 8:07:22 AM permalink
This is really a Jacks or Better variation. I wouldn't have called it Bonus Poker.
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November 10th, 2011 at 8:11:47 AM permalink
One might also call it Bonus Poker Deluxe. The differences are your game pays 75 for a four of a kind, and normal BPD pays 80, and your two pair pays 2, and it normally pays 1.
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AlanMendelson
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November 10th, 2011 at 9:41:08 AM permalink
Thank you for the information.

Playing five coins at $25 each is not in my budget. I play $5 8/5 Bonus.

Would I be better off playing this version of "Bonus Poker Deluxe" that I described with 1 coin at $25 instead of the traditional Bonus Poker game with five coins for the same $25?

Since I haven't hit a royal in more than 146,000 hands I'm not counting on a flurry of royals anytime soon. Is playing BPD with only one coin giving up too much (should a royal finally hit), or does playing one coin on this game stll "beat" 5 coins on traditional Bonus Poker?

Thanks.
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November 10th, 2011 at 10:03:17 AM permalink
Work out the EV with one coin (e.g. no royal bonus). Work out EV on your standard machine.

Compare.

You could also get the amount of the EV from the Royal itself on both systems (things like iPad's winpoker will do that for you, among other tools out there), if you want to discount the Royal effect.
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November 10th, 2011 at 10:07:45 AM permalink
If you play this game at 1 coin will get you a return of 98.43% (assuming that the royal pays 250 per coin).

If you play standard Bonus Poker at max bet, you get a return of 99.16%.

Clearly, from an EV perspective, you should play traditional Bonus Poker. By playing this "Bonus Poker Deluxe" game, you will lose an extra 18.4 cents per hand with a $25 wager.
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November 10th, 2011 at 3:33:12 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

If you play this game at 1 coin will get you a return of 98.43% (assuming that the royal pays 250 per coin).

If you play standard Bonus Poker at max bet, you get a return of 99.16%.

Clearly, from an EV perspective, you should play traditional Bonus Poker. By playing this "Bonus Poker Deluxe" game, you will lose an extra 18.4 cents per hand with a $25 wager.



Suppose I make the assumption that I will never got a royal flush on either game? Then which is the better play?
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November 10th, 2011 at 3:36:22 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Suppose I make the assumption that I will never got a royal flush on either game? Then which is the better play?



How about this site : http://www.dagnammit.com/servlet/PayoutCalculator

0.5% of a single coin BP pay out is from the Royal Flush
2.0% of a full coin pay out is from the Royal.
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