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October 27th, 2017 at 4:11:21 PM permalink
Sorry to not also provide a link to the videos. I'll try to remember to do that in the future. Here is a link to the videos on my YouTube channel, where you can find all three videos I've posted lately on the challenge: The Odds must be Crazy.
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October 27th, 2017 at 7:47:08 PM permalink
Thank You!
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cyberbabble
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October 28th, 2017 at 11:47:53 AM permalink
It appears to me that deuces is going to be a faster game because a significant number of hands are draw all 5 without holding anything. In JOB there are relatively few hands that are discard all 5.

deuces -
spin, look, spin
JOB -
spin, look, hold, spin
DrAntonius
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October 28th, 2017 at 3:49:16 PM permalink
I have clocked myself at over 1800 HPH single line, single machine for a 9-hour stretch including bathroom breaks. Over 5-10 minutes I believe I can break 1900 HPH accurately on a handful of games including 9/6 JoB and NSUD. Under condition of complete anonymity (no video that includes voice, name, clothing, any body part, or player's card display) I will do this challenge.

I'll send Mike a message and see if we can set something up.
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October 28th, 2017 at 5:21:20 PM permalink
I got that message and I agree to that condition. You may play any game you wish, except Pick 'Em Poker.

Forum, stay tuned for the results.
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rxwine
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October 29th, 2017 at 11:20:23 AM permalink
If the new challenger is successful, you may not have to do many of these to establish fairly unassailable records.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
BobDancer
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October 29th, 2017 at 9:16:48 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

You may play any game you wish, except Pick 'Em Poker.



I can beat that record too --- playing Double Down Stud.

Where do I sign up?
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October 30th, 2017 at 11:18:24 AM permalink
That was pretty fast. I play pretty fast as well. I am going to try the challenge playing DW at my local casino sometime later this week just to see how fast I am.

The thing is the error rate. I saw a few corrections to my own hands that I need to make. As well, my strategy is different with a 1-2-3-4-4-10-12-20 machine. Wish that I had a 1-2-3-3-5-15-25 around to play with!

My major error is keeping the 4 cards to a straight aka 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - x where x is no at a 2,3,4,5,6,7. I don't do that. I generally throw away all. Most of the others I get right, though I winced when I saw the wild royal with one deuce. Though I understand the EV is far better to keep the wild, I'd probably blink and go for the Royal.
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October 30th, 2017 at 11:39:21 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Most of the others I get right, though I winced when I saw the wild royal with one deuce. Though I understand the EV is far better to keep the wild, I'd probably blink and go for the Royal.



Put the emphasis on, FAR BETTER, that's a difference of more than five bets, in terms of EV, on any 200-25-etc playtable. Going for the natural is nothing short of a tremendous mistake. Now, in the sense of how frequently you're going to see that specific opportunity, which isn't really worth it to me to figure out just for this purpose, it wouldn't detract a TON from your overall EV, I wouldn't think. Maybe a few thousandths of a percent to as much as one or two hundreths, something like that...

Still, I have no desire not to keep the dirty Royal on that one, so you'd have to decide whether or not it is worth the EV cost to you.

Like you, I hate keeping those inside straight draws, but I almost always do it.

The Dirty Royal I hate to keep is 2-2-2-Suited High-Suited High, but I do it. That's agonizing, though. Get that Deuce over 4% of the time, have to make the right play, though, even if it is hard to swallow.

I'd be a liar if I said I don't, very rarely, toss all five on one of the straight draws you mentioned. Usually out of frustration from:

A.) Losing

AND

B.) Seeing that 3/4 hands, 7/10 hands, whatever.

If I do it twice in a session, or even think about it twice, that's it for me that day. No more playing. I'll allow myself once, though, and I shouldn't.
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Ibeatyouraces
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October 30th, 2017 at 11:50:51 AM permalink
I run the worst on DW when vulturing it.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!

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