prozema
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August 6th, 2017 at 7:55:16 AM permalink
Hi. All of my local casinos have removed the $2 denomination Ultimate X 10 play options on their machines. Any thoughts on why they would do that? Too many handpays?

I doubt it's lack of play because they were multi denomination machines.

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August 6th, 2017 at 8:51:14 AM permalink
Some bean counter likely figured out that a dealt full house (once in 694 hands approx) followed by an immediate dealt royal (once in 650,000 approx) would cost them $960,000. Even through it was a one in 450,000,000 (again approx) chance, they didn't want the exposure.

When they cut it back to $1 ten play, it's "only" $480,000
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August 6th, 2017 at 8:53:47 AM permalink
It's hard to find 10 play QUARTER UX in a lot of destinations let alone dollars or two dollars.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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August 6th, 2017 at 8:58:36 AM permalink
Quote: BobDancer

Some bean counter likely figured out that a dealt full house (once in 694 hands approx) followed by an immediate dealt royal (once in 650,000 approx) would cost them $960,000. Even through it was a one in 450,000,000 (again approx) chance, they didn't want the exposure.

When they cut it back to $1 ten play, it's "only" $480,000



I saw a guy get a delt 4oak with a screen full of 12x multipliers about a month ago playing dimes. I thought that was a long shot...
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August 6th, 2017 at 9:02:52 AM permalink
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I saw a guy get a delt 4oak with a screen full of 12x multipliers about a month ago playing dimes. I thought that was a long shot...


One of my vulture hand pays was on quarter 3 play DDB. Someone left a dealt straight (Three 8x's) and i got dealt quad queens.
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August 6th, 2017 at 9:22:36 AM permalink
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One of my vulture hand pays was on quarter 3 play DDB. Someone left a dealt straight (Three 8x's) and i got dealt quad queens.



That's awesome. My first vulture handpay was on a $2 10 play. DDB 4 aces with kicker on a 3x. I was like, "SWEET!"

I learned from ZK that triple play UX higher than nickles use pre shuffled Chinese prison cards. That explains why I brick so many of those opportunities I suppose.
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August 6th, 2017 at 9:29:37 AM permalink
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One of my vulture hand pays was on quarter 3 play DDB. Someone left a dealt straight (Three 8x's) and i got dealt quad queens.


I found a nickel 3 play with all 8x and drew to a royal on one. That's my only hand pay vulture to date.
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August 6th, 2017 at 10:22:06 AM permalink
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I found a nickel 3 play with all 8x and drew to a royal on one. That's my only hand pay vulture to date.


I've hit three royals vulturing. One one quarters and one on nickels that didn't hit a multiplier and another on nickels that hit a 3x while holding the lone ace of hearts.
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August 6th, 2017 at 11:42:38 AM permalink
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I've hit three royals vulturing. One one quarters and one on nickels that didn't hit a multiplier and another on nickels that hit a 3x while holding the lone ace of hearts.


I've had three. The other two were both on nickels too with no multiplier.
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August 6th, 2017 at 3:17:06 PM permalink
I would guess they likely got beat up pretty badly recently. Playing that game with a decent amount of luck, you could win $100k+ in a few hours of play.
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August 7th, 2017 at 9:11:52 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

That's awesome. My first vulture handpay was on a $2 10 play. DDB 4 aces with kicker on a 3x. I was like, "SWEET!"

My first vulture jackpot was on 5x$1 with one 2x in the top right. Held one ace, then pair, nothing, nothing, nothing, wow. I noticed for Aces at 1st, but the jackpot box confused me, then I saw the kicker. $4,005 for 2x Aces w Kicker.

It was my first jackpot on any type of slot machine, so I was unfamiliar with the procedure. (had some before for winning in casino drawings & tournaments).

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It's hard to find 10 play QUARTER UX in a lot of destinations let alone dollars or two dollars.

Some casinos have no UX above $0.10 (even though they have $25 VP, which has a $100K royal). Maybe to discourage vulturing APs.

Some tiny Indian casinos have max UX at 3x$0.25 or 5x$0.25. Obvious limiting of big payouts.
Double Super Times Pay can be limited even tighter than UX to $0.10 (Since a dealt royal might have a 20X mulitplier).

Large casinos who don't want to pay big jackpots have max UX at 3x$1 or 5x$1 (even though they might have 10x$0.25 & 10x$0.50).
Max jackpot of $240,000 seems to be very common for "house games" (non-countrywide progressives). Looking around high-limit, you'll see that $200K-250K is the highest that any "house game" will pay.

10x$1 used to be relatively rare.
In Vegas 2009-10, there used to be only three casinos with $2 & $5 UX (MGM, Red Rock, M Resort). But Aria added 3x$10, and in 2017, there are casinos all over the strip with $5 UX.

5x$10 is the highest payout UX I've seen. $2.4 million possible 12.0x dealt royal.
9x$5 SpinPokerUX has $2.16 million possible.

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I've hit three royals vulturing. One one quarters and one on nickels that didn't hit a multiplier and another on nickels that hit a 3x while holding the lone ace of hearts.

22 royals vulturing, and 2 royals playing heads-up UX (10-coin).

A coastal casino had 25 UX machines which were almost completely wiped of multipliers (for years, was a great place to find loaded machines). I found only one multiplier - 3x$0.05 with one 2x. Landed a royal on the 2x for $400. Cool!
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