Collusion in double draw poker?

Is there a collusion method for Double draw poker published? I can work on one, but I'd like to see what's out there first.

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Is there a collusion method for Double draw poker published? I can work on one, but I'd like to see what's out there first.

Not published. The inventor paid for one. SHFL paid to verify the exposure to it. Likely you'd have to pay for one as well.

That said, apheat would be the best place to read about it for any knowledgeable insight, followed by discountgaming, though in no particular order except personal preference.

Quote: billionaireben

Is there a collusion method for Double draw poker published? I can work on one, but I'd like to see what's out there first.

Nothing has been published. I put in a fair number of hours analyzing it, mostly for the fun of it because I realized pretty quickly it wasn't a viable play for me. I came to the conclusion that it would require players with better short-term memory than me, and the moment the casino enforces any anti-collusion measures, it would require far more complicated signalling than I have ever used or even heard of others using.

It is not at all like collusion in Lunar Poker, where you have a small number of key cards - in Double Draw you have to remember every single card you've seen. Also, in Lunar Poker it suffices to see other players' hands once - in Double Draw you must see their hands both before and after their first draw, at a minimum. Strategy is much more difficult than in Lunar or most other games, you will take longer than you expect learning it, and you will lose a lot to errors.

Typical hand: You have a pair of aces and J74 on the side. Three players ahead of you draw a total of seven cards between them, you toss the J74 and draw three. You now have a pair of aces with 952 on the side. You have to decide whether to toss the 9, the 5, or the 2 on your second draw. You'd better have seen everyone's discards, and be able to see everyone's hands after their draw, and remember whether any of their seven discards copy any of your sidecards - keeping in mind that when you first saw them, you didn't know that 9s and 5s and 2s were important - or you shouldn't be playing this game.

If you hit the jackpot, like Stephen How did with Lunar Poker at Pechanga, and a casino lets you share information freely while betting substantial money, then this game could be insanely lucrative. I wish you good luck with that but I don't like your chances. I got shut down pretty quickly every time I played Lunar, and that was published by bozos; DDP is published by SHFL and they are even more likely to have alerted casinos to this potential issue.