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cwazy
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May 30th, 2016 at 10:05:59 PM permalink
Thanks for all the advice guys. The offer includes $150 freeplay just for coming in, plus 3 free nights, so I think I'll just use that part of it and forget trying to make 100K points lol. There are quite a few other plays around town I wanted to look at anyway, though it's becoming clear that I need to add VP to my repertoire at some point in order to make the most of my casino efforts.
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May 30th, 2016 at 10:35:16 PM permalink
Quote: fivespot

The better VP is $4 per point, rather than the usual $1 per point. If that's the case on bubble craps, this isn't an advantage play; even $2 per point would make it no longer an advantage play.

If you are unfamiliar with VP, I would discourage you from trying to play 100k points in three days with a very thin edge. Last I checked, everything at Red Rock better than 99.4% was at most $5/hand. As a beginner it is not reasonable to try to play 20000 hands in three days. If you play higher stakes and settle for a 0.2-0.4% edge, you're probably not actually playing with an advantage, because your error rate (even playing slowly and consulting a strategy card) will be higher than that. (If you think that isn't the case, spend several hours playing on a trainer - without breaks - to test yourself first. Frugal Video Poker is a good free trainer that will give your error rate.) Also be prepared for five-figure swings at those stakes.

Overall it's probably a bad idea.



Single line -- no way in hell is a $10k swing normal. $5 denom is quite unlikely to lose 10k for 100k coon in. At least on JOB or BP.
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May 30th, 2016 at 11:02:43 PM permalink
Quote: cwazy

Thanks for all the advice guys. The offer includes $150 freeplay just for coming in, plus 3 free nights, so I think I'll just use that part of it and forget trying to make 100K points lol. There are quite a few other plays around town I wanted to look at anyway, though it's becoming clear that I need to add VP to my repertoire at some point in order to make the most of my casino efforts.



All these guys know what they're talking about, but my opinion is a little different. Here's my 2-cents.

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Sabretom2
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May 31st, 2016 at 6:07:12 AM permalink
Red Rock is single line until you get to 99.17. At single line you're looking at 20000 hands in three days. That's too much for most folks. Take them up on the other freebies. It's a very nice resort and the room offer alone is worth $500+. Caution: You may see no reason to ever return to the strip.
Ayecarumba
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May 31st, 2016 at 10:41:10 AM permalink
What if you play high limit at $25 per line? (if it is even available) It should be fairly quick, but a bad swing in variance could really hurt.
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May 31st, 2016 at 10:54:31 AM permalink
Honestly at 25 a line you would have to play 4 hours at best and the variance will likely be close to the value of the offer
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May 31st, 2016 at 1:53:27 PM permalink
You asked for the fastest way. How about 100 dollar slots in the high limit room?
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:05:56 PM permalink
Quote: cwazy

I got an offer from Red Rock, saying that they will give me $1000 freeplay for earning 100,000 points. I believe they give 1 point for $1 coin-in, so I need $100,000 coin in. I have very little experience with video poker and would likely play very slowly, looking at Bob Dancer strategy cards most of the way. I figure the only way I could even come close to that with reasonable variance on a 3 day trip would be on a 100 Play machine, if the edge on it is less than 1%. Does anybody know what the edge is on their 100-play, or have a suggestion as to what game would be better?



With triple points, you only need to put $33,334 through to earn 100k points. At 98% average return ($32,668), you should still be up ~$333 after the $1,000 cash back, and you also get perks for the points.

On the other hand, if things go sideways, you could be down $32k...
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Sabretom2
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:49:55 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

With triple points, you only need to put $33,334 through to earn 100k points. At 98% average return ($32,668), you should still be up ~$333 after the $1,000 cash back, and you also get perks for the points.

On the other hand, if things go sideways, you could be down $32k...



Triple points are for comps. Most VP at Station houses is 1 tier point per $.
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May 31st, 2016 at 2:50:58 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

With triple points, you only need to put $33,334 through to earn 100k points. At 98% average return ($32,668), you should still be up ~$333 after the $1,000 cash back, and you also get perks for the points.

On the other hand, if things go sideways, you could be down $32k...



Would be nice, but with this particular offer, it is based on 'credits' not 'points'. I may be using the incorrect vocabulary with the word 'credits', but long story short: you need 100k coin in.

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