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April 26th, 2016 at 10:13:33 AM permalink
How much EV would it cost a player to discard all dealt straight flushes in FPDW? The player can keep the next best hold but not the dealt straight flush.
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:22:32 AM permalink
I'm going to extrapolate this question into thinking this is some sort of a side bet -- whether or not FPDW is +EV under such a scenario?

I don't know the answer to your question.....but am I right?
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:26:36 AM permalink
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I'm going to extrapolate this question into thinking this is some sort of a side bet -- whether or not FPDW is +EV under such a scenario?

I don't know the answer to your question.....but am I right?



No, just looking at a strategy deviation for FPDW and wondering what it will cost me.
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:32:58 AM permalink
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How much EV would it cost a player to discard all dealt straight flushes in FPDW? The player can keep the next best hold but not the dealt straight flush.

Why?

So you're saying they would actually kill a 6s 7s 8s 9s 10s and drop the 10?

or are you talking about a situation where four ducks get a significant bonus so you're trying to figure out if you should just go for the 4 ducks as often as possible?( 4 two's last card to complete a bingo card perhaps? )
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:43:07 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why?

So you're saying they would actually kill a 6s 7s 8s 9s 10s and drop the 10?

or are you talking about a situation where four ducks get a significant bonus so you're trying to figure out if you should just go for the 4 ducks as often as possible?( 4 two's last card to complete a bingo card perhaps? )



Just regular FPDW no bonus and no player card. Discard all SF's.
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:48:05 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why?

So you're saying they would actually kill a 6s 7s 8s 9s 10s and drop the 10?

or are you talking about a situation where four ducks get a significant bonus so you're trying to figure out if you should just go for the 4 ducks as often as possible?( 4 two's last card to complete a bingo card perhaps? )

Damn, once again I am but a duck....
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:34:30 AM permalink
Just curious why in the world would you want to do that?
I'm not a math guy but just take the total combination of hands and deduct the total possible straight flushes and add up the equity in the rest
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:37:31 AM permalink
I dont know but of course DRich you are going to discuss what the promo is, where its at, and the best way to tackle this?
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:39:25 AM permalink
Use the hand analyzer on WoO.
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April 26th, 2016 at 12:45:47 PM permalink
Sounds llike something RS would do.

eta: RS = Rob Singer

Now the question is, Does Rob singer like pink cats.
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April 26th, 2016 at 1:09:41 PM permalink
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Sounds llike something RS would do.

eta: RS = Rob Singer

Now the question is, Does Rob singer like pink cats.



Flagged your post because I'm insulted.
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April 26th, 2016 at 1:20:25 PM permalink
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Flagged your post because I'm insulted.



;-)
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April 26th, 2016 at 1:29:14 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Just curious why in the world would you want to do that?
I'm not a math guy but just take the total combination of hands and deduct the total possible straight flushes and add up the equity in the rest



Sadly, not that easy because it is only dealt straight flushes and you can't completely discount the hand because it may contain cards that have a positive EV. ie. 22579. You would still hold the deuces.
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April 26th, 2016 at 1:30:25 PM permalink
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Sounds llike something RS would do.

eta: RS = Rob Singer
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I am honored. I have heard he is a VP genius. :)
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April 26th, 2016 at 2:00:13 PM permalink
Still easy,just find all the straight flush combinations and cancel out the ones that Contain the hands you would not get rid of
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April 26th, 2016 at 2:14:29 PM permalink
Frugal VP says it would cost you 0.355% (100.403%) if you discarded dealt SFs and played the next best available draw. But not sure why you would want to do that though... The thought of even considering it is the most intriguing thing of doing this.
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April 26th, 2016 at 3:32:21 PM permalink
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Flagged your post because I'm insulted.

Did someone say *FLAG*!!!!!!!?
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April 26th, 2016 at 4:30:06 PM permalink
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Frugal VP says it would cost you 0.355% (100.403%) if you discarded dealt SFs and played the next best available draw. But not sure why you would want to do that though... The thought of even considering it is the most intriguing thing of doing this.



Interesting, that is more than I thought. Could you tell me how you did that in Frugal VP? Did you manually do each possible straight flush and subtract the difference from the optimum? How many different dealt straight flushes did you come up with?
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April 26th, 2016 at 4:59:49 PM permalink
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Interesting, that is more than I thought. Could you tell me how you did that in Frugal VP? Did you manually do each possible straight flush and subtract the difference from the optimum? How many different dealt straight flushes did you come up with?



There is an option to tweak basic strategy in the game and recalculate the return. I just moved dealt straight flushes to the bottom of the list, so it would take the highest option left.
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April 26th, 2016 at 6:22:14 PM permalink
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There is an option to tweak basic strategy in the game and recalculate the return. I just moved dealt straight flushes to the bottom of the list, so it would take the highest option left.



Thank you, I haven't used Frugal VP in years. I guess I will have to go back and look at it.
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April 27th, 2016 at 9:55:03 AM permalink
I just heard the play is dead. It lasted about 30 hours that we know about.

Thanks to Tringlomane for helping me confirm my thoughts that a dealt 5k wasn't worth enough for the attention it would draw. Sorry for misleading on the straight flush but I was looking for a way to find the cost of throwing away a dealt hand to avoid extra W2G's.

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