Bankroll amt for $5 Coin VP?
I've always been of the mindset that you need to play at least 50 hands or so.
Where can you find 10/7 in town? I've seen them a few times at Red Rock, not on the strip even in HL rooms.
Thank you!
? ?? 50? you forgot a bunch of zeros.Quote: HLgrinder
I've always been of the mindset that you need to play at least 50 hands or so.
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10/7 is not on the strip. But you can find it downtown at Main Street Station, Plaza, and California. Off strip at many places. Palace Station, Bolder Station, Aliante and many others. Not sure about 5 dollar though.
What do you mean 50 hands?
Check this link from VP Free
http://www.vpfree2.com/casinos/by-region/las-vegas.html
hes asking about $5 denominationsQuote: vegasNot sure about bankroll.
10/7 is not on the strip. But you can find it downtown at Main Street Station, Plaza, and California. Off strip at many places. Palace Station, Bolder Station, Aliante and many others.
Check this link from VP Free
http://www.vpfree2.com/casinos/by-region/las-vegas.html
I've seen 9/7 at a few places on the strip, but not 10/7. I think 10/7 is the branded "100% Payback" machine? Palace, RR...local joints
yes 10/7 is 100.17 with a complex strategy Dealing with penalty cards, 3 flushes, 3 card st8 (10 J Q) . You'll have a better chance finding 10/6 DD In higher denominations either one will be difficult. Without promotions or something good I wouldn't play it. You shouldn't even mess with it with less than 50k and that's not even enough to pound away.Quote: HLgrinderYes, $25 a hand VP, what should a standard bankroll be to cycle that?
I've seen 9/7 at a few places on the strip, but not 10/7. I think 10/7 is the branded "100% Payback" machine? Palace, RR...local joints
It's not profitable in the long run if you factor in taxes. Example: 1 year you run good on royals + 40k pay your taxes on that. The next year you lose 40k. Eventually that will eat you up.
If you have that much money you would be better off finding better plays. If you just enjoy playing VP look into progressives. You won't be able to always find something however it's significantly better when you do.
A member here recently (OK not really that recent, but close enough) hit a really good $1 progressive with great value in Cali, I believe it was worth 100 or more per hr, It was worth it to travel for it, even from Vegas.
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If your going to be seriously playing something like this you should be asking how do I figure out what I need? Rather than asking the question and getting an answer.
there is another thread somewhere that discusses this. One guy did what I used to do and he sets his computer program on fast auto play and then looks at the fluctuation. You should get a program if you PM me ill tell you where to get some free ones.
Quote: rdw4potus50 hands should only take about 5 minutes to play. Probably could do it on $500, but might want more like $1000 to be sure. Why play so little?
Welcome to the forum. Thx for your question. I hope you get th answers you need.
I'll check tomorrow.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLWelcome to the forum. Thx for your question. I hope you get th answers you need.
I'll check tomorrow.
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I have no clue why he thought 50 hands was anything close to what someone would need to play.
Then when he talked about the cycle, what is he asking, what the RF cycle is? its about 48k more hands than the 50 he was talking about. Does he understand playing 1 RF cycle is meaningless? If he misses just that one RF(very easy to do) that's 20k and he could certainly play 1 cycle in a week. Is he asking how many hands on average does he need to play for everything to average out, and what kind of BR on average will he need to cover the swings?
Quote: HLgrinderYes, $25 a hand VP, what should a standard bankroll be to cycle that?
Starting bankroll must be at least $25. Given that you're asking what it "should" be, most likely it is higher than what you currently have
LOL, smart ass (-:Quote: TomGStarting bankroll must be at least $25.
Quote: TomGStarting bankroll must be at least $25.
Yep, and if you've got a goodly chunk of free slot play, you can do all right.
Quote: HLgrinderHow much should you start out with if you were going to play HL $5 coin, $25 hand 9/6 Dlb bonus?
I've always been of the mindset that you need to play at least 50 hands or so.
Where can you find 10/7 in town? I've seen them a few times at Red Rock, not on the strip even in HL rooms.
Thank you!
Did you play Baccarat, say in '69?
What I'm asking is how many hands should I be playing consistently when I sit down on a machine to get the best return on my money?
When you say if I "miss a Royal Flush cycle" what exactly are you referring to? I understand it comes up ~1 in 48K hands dealt, but what does a miss refer to? Imperfect play?
I'll take you up on a program to run a simulation, I would like to see how that works.
Quote: HLgrinderThanks for the replies guys, I'll admit I am not an expert on VP, played low limit DBL DBL for a while, got bored, moved to other games, but recently had some Higher limit hits @ $5 and $10 coin play. I understand the basic strategy and probabilities for RFs, Quads, etc, and depending on the game, can generally play consistently upper 90%.
What I'm asking is how many hands should I be playing consistently when I sit down on a machine to get the best return on my money?
When you say if I "miss a Royal Flush cycle" what exactly are you referring to? I understand it comes up ~1 in 48K hands dealt, but what does a miss refer to? Imperfect play?
I'll take you up on a program to run a simulation, I would like to see how that works.
One cycle would be 48K (or whatever the cycle is for that game). I think people would more likely say, "I've gone 2 cycles without a royal". It just means they haven't hit a royal in the last 96K hands they've played.
It doesn't matter how long you play or how short you play. It's all added up and ends up being one long big session. Of course, the longer you play the more normalized your results will become. But you really can't do it session by session. There is far too much variance in any VP game to be able to say "I'm going to sit down and play X hands, and I should be pretty close to losing Y amount of dollars."
What is your goal playing VP? Obviously everyone wants to win.Quote: HLgrinderThanks for the replies guys, I'll admit I am not an expert on VP, played low limit DBL DBL for a while, got bored, moved to other games, but recently had some Higher limit hits @ $5 and $10 coin play. I understand the basic strategy and probabilities for RFs, Quads, etc, and depending on the game, can generally play consistently upper 90%.
What I'm asking is how many hands should I be playing consistently when I sit down on a machine to get the best return on my money?
When you say if I "miss a Royal Flush cycle" what exactly are you referring to? I understand it comes up ~1 in 48K hands dealt, but what does a miss refer to? Imperfect play?
I'll take you up on a program to run a simulation, I would like to see how that works.
Are you looking to make money long term, or just not lose much value? How many days/hours do u like to play? What kind of bankroll are we talking about?
Playing to win is the idea. Feeding a machine your entire life savings is not. Even under the best of conditions, you can lose. Until you know all the math without looking at a book and understand fully what your risks would be, I think taking more than a weeks pay into a casino is pretty crazy. But - that's only my opinion. I just joined this forum yesterday. I don't know nuthin' really.
