coilman
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February 15th, 2015 at 8:53:12 PM permalink
I went the other night to one of the local casinos here in town and noticed something that to me just didn't sit well

If you pull up a game on the poker machines ( these machines get 10 times the play on the KENO games on them) and nobody has been playing poker on that machine in the past say 15 minutes the cards shown are 4 to a straight flush in spades 3-6 with the 9 of hearts as the last card. Doesn't matter which poker game or denomination it is that's what will be showing.( both of the casino's in town have them set up this way now)

It's like the lottery out here you have a choice to spend an extra buck for EXTRA or ENCORE ( depending on which province you are in) which is basically a second lottery on the same ticket...7 digit number where you can win prizes for hitting last number , last two numbers etc to hitting all the numbers.... the person selling you the ticket will always ask if you want it.... difference being if in Ontario and you say no that lottery number WILL NOT be on the ticket thus you don't have it to see that you might have won had you played ...whereas in Alberta they put it on the ticket but it says NOT PLAYED under it.

Does anybody else think that them putting a near miss to the straight flush as the last hand played is kind of misleading to the gambling public? These are CLASS 3 machines like in Vegas
FleaStiff
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February 15th, 2015 at 9:17:00 PM permalink
What would you have them display? The Deadman's Hand? A pretty girl? Its a graphic backdrop. They ain't gonna play the video of the problem gambler who blew his brains out, they are going to play the video of the woman screaming as all the jackpot signs flash on and off.
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February 15th, 2015 at 10:12:35 PM permalink
I have no problem with it. A near miss or a pair of threes doesn't matter a bit to me. As a matter of fact I don't even look, or if I do I don't pay attention, to what's on a machine before I play it. This includes slot machines. Every play is independent of the last.


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February 15th, 2015 at 10:22:40 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

I went the other night to one of the local casinos here in town and noticed something that to me just didn't sit well

If you pull up a game on the poker machines ( these machines get 10 times the play on the KENO games on them) and nobody has been playing poker on that machine in the past say 15 minutes the cards shown are 4 to a straight flush in spades 3-6 with the 9 of hearts as the last card. Doesn't matter which poker game or denomination it is that's what will be showing.( both of the casino's in town have them set up this way now)

It's like the lottery out here you have a choice to spend an extra buck for EXTRA or ENCORE ( depending on which province you are in) which is basically a second lottery on the same ticket...7 digit number where you can win prizes for hitting last number , last two numbers etc to hitting all the numbers.... the person selling you the ticket will always ask if you want it.... difference being if in Ontario and you say no that lottery number WILL NOT be on the ticket thus you don't have it to see that you might have won had you played ...whereas in Alberta they put it on the ticket but it says NOT PLAYED under it.

Does anybody else think that them putting a near miss to the straight flush as the last hand played is kind of misleading to the gambling public? These are CLASS 3 machines like in Vegas

It's different but in vegas some machines cycle though a spade RF demonstration.

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February 15th, 2015 at 11:10:37 PM permalink
So the real last hand isn't displayed and it's showing a salivating almost won hand I'm guessing from your description. The people casino hire are literally mother !@&=ers normally, not that there's anything wrong with that, but you can see how morally flexible they must be. It's becoming more and more common to wipe away the last spin on slots after people cash out. It doesn't make a difference besides some people would not play seeing a big win or bonus being displayed.
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February 15th, 2015 at 11:21:38 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

So the real last hand isn't displayed and it's showing a salivating almost won hand I'm guessing from your description. The people casino hire are literally mother !@&=ers normally, not that there's anything wrong with that, but you can see how morally flexible they must be. It's becoming more and more common to wipe away the last spin on slots after people cash out. It doesn't make a difference besides some people would not play seeing a big win or bonus being displayed.



I dunno, having it show the last spin on slots is good for business IMO. Some of the people dumb enough to play a -10% game will look for certain patterns on a machine to see if they like it. So having machines in all random states will surely give the idiots something they think they looks good. Some of them might like a machine where the last spin has a big win, others don't, but there's plenty of machines.
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February 15th, 2015 at 11:24:04 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

... 4 to a straight flush in spades 3-6 with the 9 of hearts as the last card...



The first time I saw these cards on all three hands of a triple play game, I said to my friend, "Look! Some idiot held all five of these cards!"
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February 16th, 2015 at 3:37:43 AM permalink
Ive been to casinos where after video poker games have been idle a program plays that shows a royal flush draw, and the royal card being selected. Yes, it's advertising. Just like the lights and bells.
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February 16th, 2015 at 4:31:51 AM permalink
The 3-6 spades and 9 of hearts, I believe, is how the machine comes by default. If you go to a casino's opening night, all of the machines that have no play on them show the 3s4s5s6s9h hand. I believe it happens too, to machines that have been reset.

I have no problem with it.
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February 16th, 2015 at 11:57:31 AM permalink
Quote: RS

The 3-6 spades and 9 of hearts, I believe, is how the machine comes by default. If you go to a casino's opening night, all of the machines that have no play on them show the 3s4s5s6s9h hand. I believe it happens too, to machines that have been reset.

I have no problem with it.



Yeah this is the default hand on all star ii units at least nowadays. Why they do this instead of leaving the last actual hand up, I have no idea. I guess it's slightly misleading, but anyone who plays them often enough will notice.
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February 16th, 2015 at 12:22:44 PM permalink
How is it misleading?
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February 16th, 2015 at 12:27:40 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

How is it misleading?


I don't particularly think it is. As others stated I also don't care what was on the machine before me because I know it's independent trials. However, 'some' might consider it misleading if they don't understand that. Showing a 'near miss' is like saying "omg this machine ALMOST paid out huge, it must be heating up!" Psychologically, to me, it's the same as having all the flashing lights and noises go off even on losing spins/deals. It's designed to get your dopamine pumping through your body so you're more careless with your money.
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February 16th, 2015 at 12:33:36 PM permalink
I thought it was illegal in Nevada to purposely program "Near Miss" displays on slot results while the game was being played? Is a machine in an unplayed state for a certain amount of time allowed to "reset"?
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February 16th, 2015 at 1:37:09 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Why they do this instead of leaving the last actual hand up, I have no idea.



There is no last hand. You are about to play the first hand.
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February 16th, 2015 at 4:44:23 PM permalink
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There is no last hand. You are about to play the first hand.



On all star II games I see this very often on Ultimate X machines on certain variants, but other variants have been played and show the last played hand. Are you saying they shut off the machine and wipe out the multipliers that go with it regularly? I just assumed if a game is idle for so long, they just go back to showing 34569.
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February 16th, 2015 at 4:54:54 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

On all star II games I see this very often on Ultimate X machines on certain variants, but other variants have been played and show the last played hand. Are you saying they shut off the machine and wipe out the multipliers that go with it regularly? I just assumed if a game is idle for so long, they just go back to showing 34569.



I'm just saying -- if a game is brand new (never played), it'll show 34569 OR if it is reset it'll show 34569. If a game has been idle for a while, I don't know. I suppose it could be true that if a variant is idle it'll automatically reset itself. But, I don't think they regularly reset/wipe-out a machine to clear it from multipliers.


Quote: Ayecarumba

I thought it was illegal in Nevada to purposely program "Near Miss" displays on slot results while the game was being played? Is a machine in an unplayed state for a certain amount of time allowed to "reset"?



I believe: They cannot be programmed in a way so that when a hand loses it cannot change it to look like a near miss. For instance, if you're dealt crap, re-draw 5 cards, and would get something like 4,5,8,T,A (a loss), it cannot change the hand to something like AKQJ suited + 8 off suit. Or, if your final hand is going to be A3KQJ of hearts, it cannot re-order the cards to be AKQJ3 of hearts. Or on slot machines, if your ending hand (or whatever it's called) is going to be 7-X-7-7-7, it cannot change the order to be 7-7-7-7-X.


The above is my interpretation, not fact.


But, that isn't to say if a game is not being played, it can't have some auto-run video/screen-saver. Typically, you'll see something like TJQ_A of spades, with those cards held, then a king of spades showing up in the empty spot. This is just a screensaver kind of a thing, and isn't a "near miss when game is in play".

My 2 cents.
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February 16th, 2015 at 8:40:34 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

On all star II games I see this very often on Ultimate X machines on certain variants, but other variants have been played and show the last played hand. Are you saying they shut off the machine and wipe out the multipliers that go with it regularly? I just assumed if a game is idle for so long, they just go back to showing 34569.



I saw this on some ultimate X machines today. They were new machines. They replaced the other ones in the past week so not all the games have been played yet and I'd see that 3456s9.
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