Schadenfreude and Flush Fever Video Poker
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Where this gets interesting in terms of philosophy is what to do with a hand like 2h, 4h, 6h, 8h, 10h. You can keep the pat flush or throw away one card and still get a flush in the feature, because that is the only possible win in this situation, given no high cards and no straight possibility. However, if you choose the feature the game will burn through 4.33 cards on average looking for another heart, adding 4.33 coins to the meter. The next player to hit a royal will be the beneficiary of those 4.33 coins.
Now suppose this is the last hand you ever plan to play at that machine and you're in this situation. What do you do? The question for the poll is do you play the feature, adding 4.33 coins to the royal, or not?
Quote: Wizard
Now suppose this is the last hand you ever plan to play at that machine and you're in this situation. What do you do? The question for the poll is do you play the feature, adding 4.33 coins to the royal, or not?
I would say that of course you would play the feature, you can't possibly lose anything (in terms of personal EV) and you're adding EV for a future player.
Also, from a purely academic standpoint, that play has the best EV (even if you're not going to realize it) and is always the Optimal Play for the game. I really don't see any good reason not to make the Optimal Play when it can't possibly hurt the player's value.
Quote: PerditionIsn't colonel above major or do things work different in the Army of Poultry?
Quote: Mission146I really don't see any good reason not to make the Optimal Play when it can't possibly hurt the player's value.
Possible reasons are:
1. Maybe the casino is in Atlantic City and on the verge of bankruptcy.
2. Maybe the casino is a Caesars property and IN bankruptcy.
3. Maybe you don't like the other players.
4. Maybe you own stock in the casino you're in.
Quote: DRichI would hold it. If it is my last hand I want to leave and wouldn't waste the time if there is no more EV for me.
It takes extra time to press the button to hold the fifth card. The time required to find a suited card in the feature would be less than a second.
Quote: WizardIt takes extra time to press the button to hold the fifth card. The time required to find a suited card in the feature would be less than a second.
Do you only have to hit the draw button once? I assumed you had to hit it for every card until a flush appeared. Obviously I haven't played this game yet.
Quote: PerditionIsn't colonel above major or do things work different in the Army of Poultry?
I had to Google this. From my younger days watching one of my favorite shows, Hogan's Heroes, I always assumed Major Hochstetter outranked Colonel Klink. Apparently I was wrong.
I seem to recall that Klink was afraid of Hochstetter because he was SS not because of his rank, but I could be wrong.Quote: DRichI had to Google this. From my younger days watching one of my favorite shows, Hogan's Heroes, I always assumed Major Hochstetter outranked Colonel Klink. Apparently I was wrong.
Quote: WizardThe game also adds a coin to the royal flush meter for every card in the guaranteed win feature that is burned because it didn't result in a win.
Is that considered a progressive, and "owned by the players"?
Quote: JimRockfordI seem to recall that Klink was afraid of Hochstetter because he was SS not because of his rank, but I could be wrong.
Yes, that makes sense now but I had always just assumed he was outranked.
Quote: WizardIt takes extra time to press the button to hold the fifth card. The time required to find a suited card in the feature would be less than a second.
So they flip through really quick?
I hope to play this game soon. I'm still confused on your percent positive numbers though for machines near 100% return. :( Base value of the game is almost 2% less than average value, so how can the game return 99.79% overall if it's only above 100% 1.2% of the time?
Quote: MoscaHell, I'd hold the 6, 8, and 10, and hope for the 7 and 9. It's the last game of Flush Fever I'll ever play; what's on the line, maybe $1? $5? Live a little!
THATS SUICIDE!!!
Quote: RSTHATS SUICIDE!!!
Yeah, in the long run. But remember, one of the conditions is this will be your last game of Flush Fever. What are you betting, a nickel x 6? A quarter? A dollar? Big deal. 30 cents is change tossed in the cupholder, you would win $1.80. $1.50 is a coffee, you would win $9. $6 is starting to look like real money, you would win $36. The money's already in the machine, take the swat on the inside double and go enjoy the rest of your day.
Quote: DRichDo you only have to hit the draw button once? I assumed you had to hit it for every card until a flush appeared. Obviously I haven't played this game yet.
Yes, just once.
Quote: MoscaYeah, in the long run. But remember, one of the conditions is this will be your last game of Flush Fever. What are you betting, a nickel x 6? A quarter? A dollar? Big deal. 30 cents is change tossed in the cupholder, you would win $1.80. $1.50 is a coffee, you would win $9. $6 is starting to look like real money, you would win $36. The money's already in the machine, take the swat on the inside double and go enjoy the rest of your day.
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