November 26th, 2014 at 11:22:16 PM
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On the INITIAL draw, what are the chances of getting:
(a) a deuce
(b) 2 deuces
(c) 3 deuces
(d) 4 deuces
thanks in advance
(a) a deuce
(b) 2 deuces
(c) 3 deuces
(d) 4 deuces
thanks in advance
November 26th, 2014 at 11:41:00 PM
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Deuces | Excel Formula | Probability | Frequency |
---|---|---|---|
0 | =combin(4,0)*combin(48,5)/combin(52,5) | 0.65884200 | 1 in 1.52 |
1 | =combin(4,1)*combin(48,4)/combin(52,5) | 0.29947364 | 1 in 3.34 |
2 | =combin(4,2)*combin(48,3)/combin(52,5) | 0.03992982 | 1 in 25.04 |
3 | =combin(4,3)*combin(48,2)/combin(52,5) | 0.00173608 | 1 in 576.01 |
4 | =combin(4,4)*combin(48,1)/combin(52,5) | 0.00001847 | 1 in 54,145 |
November 27th, 2014 at 2:33:00 AM
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Thanks JB,
I only had the figures correct for the 4 deuces
I have a follow up question, In the initial deal, what is the probability of getting (all ways):
(a) one to a royal,
(b) two to a royal,
(c) three to a royal,
(d) four to a royal
(e) a royal (even though i know this one, may as well put it here too)
I only had the figures correct for the 4 deuces
I have a follow up question, In the initial deal, what is the probability of getting (all ways):
(a) one to a royal,
(b) two to a royal,
(c) three to a royal,
(d) four to a royal
(e) a royal (even though i know this one, may as well put it here too)
November 27th, 2014 at 6:21:45 AM
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Quote: ksdjdjThanks JB,
I only had the figures correct for the 4 deuces
I have a follow up question, In the initial deal, what is the probability of getting (all ways):
(a) one to a royal,
(b) two to a royal,
(c) three to a royal,
(d) four to a royal
(e) a royal (even though i know this one, may as well put it here too)
Here are my answers:
Hand | Ways | Frequency |
---|---|---|
zero to a royal | 201,376 | 1 in 12.91 |
one to a royal | 1,731,200 | 1 in 1.50 |
two to a royal | 622,200 | 1 in 4.18 |
three to a royal | 43,240 | 1 in 60.11 |
four to a royal | 940 | 1 in 2,765 |
a royal | 4 | 1 in 649,740 |
TOTAL | 2,598,960 |
November 27th, 2014 at 7:09:19 AM
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Quote: ChesterDogHere are my answers:
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I agree. This wasn't as easy as the deuces question, since a hand can have up to four "one to a royal" combinations and up to two "2 to a royal" combinations and other mixtures where a lower count was dwarfed by a higher count in a different suit.
November 27th, 2014 at 3:55:21 PM
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Thank you for all the help JB and ChesterDog,
November 27th, 2014 at 5:09:11 PM
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would these formula(s) be correct, for the situations provided below (only guessing from the information provided)
(a) "Going for a Royal Flush, discarding 4 cards (keeping 1 of any card for a royal lets say a '10 of diamonds' as an example)
'=COMBIN(4;4)*COMBIN(44;1)/COMBIN(47;4)'
or about 0.02467% chance of happening
(b) "Going for 4ok deuces, discarding 3 cards (keeping 2 deuces)
'=COMBIN(3;3)*COMBIN(45;1)/COMBIN(47;3)'
or about 0.27752% chance of happening
nb: i am using OpenOffice, so it replaces "," with ";" when using the combin function
again i am only guessing here, so will be happy to be corrected if the above is wrong
edit: i think i only got the "(b) example" correct, after having a think about it?
(a) "Going for a Royal Flush, discarding 4 cards (keeping 1 of any card for a royal lets say a '10 of diamonds' as an example)
'=COMBIN(4;4)*COMBIN(44;1)/COMBIN(47;4)'
or about 0.02467% chance of happening
(b) "Going for 4ok deuces, discarding 3 cards (keeping 2 deuces)
'=COMBIN(3;3)*COMBIN(45;1)/COMBIN(47;3)'
or about 0.27752% chance of happening
nb: i am using OpenOffice, so it replaces "," with ";" when using the combin function
again i am only guessing here, so will be happy to be corrected if the above is wrong
edit: i think i only got the "(b) example" correct, after having a think about it?
November 27th, 2014 at 5:32:08 PM
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Drawing 1 to a royal (ie: Hold Ten of Diamonds, discard 4 others)....your chance of getting a royal are significantly less than 0.02%.
I don't know how these fancy math people do it (well, I "get" it, but I've never liked permutations and combinations). Holding 1 to a royal.....
the first of four cards you draw can be a JQK or A (4 cards). And there are 47 cards remaining. So the chance of that first card being "good" is 1/47.
Chance the second of four cards is good is dependant on the card before it (if the previous card is no good, then it doesn't matter what this next card is). There are 3 remaining good cards out of a possible 46 cards.
Do the same for the next 2 cards, and you get:
4/47 * 3/46 * 2/45 * 1/44
=
(4 * 3 * 2 * 1) / (47 * 46 * 45 * 44)
=
4! / (47! / 43!)
I don't know how these fancy math people do it (well, I "get" it, but I've never liked permutations and combinations). Holding 1 to a royal.....
the first of four cards you draw can be a JQK or A (4 cards). And there are 47 cards remaining. So the chance of that first card being "good" is 1/47.
Chance the second of four cards is good is dependant on the card before it (if the previous card is no good, then it doesn't matter what this next card is). There are 3 remaining good cards out of a possible 46 cards.
Do the same for the next 2 cards, and you get:
4/47 * 3/46 * 2/45 * 1/44
=
(4 * 3 * 2 * 1) / (47 * 46 * 45 * 44)
=
4! / (47! / 43!)
November 27th, 2014 at 5:40:17 PM
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thanks RS
December 16th, 2014 at 10:44:06 PM
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Quote: ksdjdjOn the INITIAL draw, what are the chances of getting:
(d) 4 deuces
thanks in advance
standard answer is 50/50 :-)
I was fortunate just a couple days ago. Had only $40 to play on y way home from work. Needed 2400 pts for president tier at Stations. Decided to play -ev 5 play 5c DW,'
Dealt 4 2's for 5 hands. cleared my tier, and cashed out $500.
Went over to my regular FPDW and caught 4 2's again for $250, Net for the day +$650.