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October 30th, 2014 at 8:21:47 PM permalink
The Casino that I frequent is running a promotion for the month of November and I am asking for all the help I can get to figure out if it is worth the time and effort needed, as well as, the best way to go about it.

The promotion is as such:
If I earn 69,830 slot points throughout the month of November I receive $2,500 in free slot play
If I earn a total of 107,790 slot points, then I receive $6000 total in free slot play

The slot points are accumulated as, $5 coin in for slot machines, $10 for video poker, and table games at their discretion.

With the card I have for the casino I earn an additional 50% on my points.

What I need help with is which promotion would be worth it, if either. What bank roll would be necessary, what would the ideal game be to play with said bank roll( I can provide vpfree2 info for said VP games) and any other things I may have overlooked.

I am going to ask the casino rewards hosts if my 50% additional accumulation is valid for this promotion.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance.
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October 30th, 2014 at 8:35:03 PM permalink
Doesn't sound like it's worth it to me. At ten bucks a point on video poker, that's over one million bucks in wagers for six thousand dollars free-play. Trust me, there are easier ways to get that.

If they honor the 50% you will cut that down to over half a million. Doesn't sound wise to me.

Also, whats with the weird point earning amounts?

Usually a promotion will require a round number. Earn 10,000 points and you will get....

I don't think I've ever seen a promotion that said earn 69,800 or 107,970? You sure you're reading that properly?
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October 30th, 2014 at 8:45:35 PM permalink
Yep.

$550,000 coin in earns you $6,000 in Free Play on slots. Very doubtful that you can find a machine with 99.1% odds.

Video poker 1,077,900 to earn $6,000. That add 0.5566% to your cash. And your points in itself are probably worth 0.25% or 0.375% for 50% bonus.

So you are looking at a 0.93% bonus for playing. That's not insignificant. So you would need to find a VP game that pays > 99.07%. Good luck with that.
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October 30th, 2014 at 8:59:12 PM permalink
Yes I am reading the promotion right. That I can assure you. Also there is a game at my local casino that is 99% return but requires $20 per bet. Big Split Poker. I believe there is also a $5 machine that is 9/6 JOB so $25 per bet 99.54% with optimal play, with my play I would say around a 99.4%
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October 30th, 2014 at 9:26:58 PM permalink
Well, if you are comfortable losing about one percent of 1,077,690 in exchange for $6,000 in free-play be my guest.
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October 30th, 2014 at 9:47:03 PM permalink
Quote: Transcend

Yes I am reading the promotion right. That I can assure you. Also there is a game at my local casino that is 99% return but requires $20 per bet. Big Split Poker. I believe there is also a $5 machine that is 9/6 JOB so $25 per bet 99.54% with optimal play, with my play I would say around a 99.4%



Well there's your answer.

You need 1.08 million in coin in.

You state you would have a theo loss of .6% at 9/6 JOB, of which you would need to play 43K hands of.

Your expected loss is ~ 6.4K for 6K of free play.

Even with optimal 99.54% play your expected loss is 5K for 6K of free play. So you would make $1000 for sitting in front of a machine for like 4 days straight.

Stay home.
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October 30th, 2014 at 10:47:15 PM permalink
Are there other benefits? What kind of mailer would you get for this kind of action? Sounds like a CET property to me, how much value do you place on making 7 stars if you haven't already?
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October 30th, 2014 at 10:47:15 PM permalink
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October 30th, 2014 at 11:48:09 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Are there other benefits? What kind of mailer would you get for this kind of action? Sounds like a CET property to me, how much value do you place on making 7 stars if you haven't already?



It's not CET. No CET offers 99% "Big Split Poker".

Knowing the possible amount of mailers one could get from the machines would be good. I assume not much.

With $5 JoB though, this promo will definitely be a bankroll mess I'd think. I'll try to think about the numbers more in detail later.
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December 18th, 2017 at 7:44:12 PM permalink
How do you read this? 1250 points = $40 in free play?

EARN FREE SLOTPLAY®

Earn 250 Slot Points = $5 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 500 Slot Points = $10 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 750 Slot Points = $20 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 1000 Slot Points = $40 in Free SlotPlay
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December 18th, 2017 at 9:37:03 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

How do you read this? 1250 points = $40 in free play?

EARN FREE SLOTPLAY®

Earn 250 Slot Points = $5 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 500 Slot Points = $10 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 750 Slot Points = $20 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 1000 Slot Points = $40 in Free SlotPlay



If that's all they tell you, I think you would have to ask them.

I read it as you earn 1250, you get $75 total freeplay. And each award you get as you meet the threshold.

But they may be saying only highest tier earned is what you get. So $40.

Or they may be saying $5 + highest add'l tier, for $45.
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December 18th, 2017 at 10:29:40 PM permalink
The way I read it, you have to earn 2500 slot points to get $75 fp. Note it says after the first 250, the verbiage begins including the word additional.
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December 19th, 2017 at 4:48:44 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

The way I read it, you have to earn 2500 slot points to get $75 fp. Note it says after the first 250, the verbiage begins including the word additional.



I thought about it that way too. I also considered 2500 points to get $40 in free play. Glad I'm not the only one who isn't clear.

It's funny that for me to me that in a world where peanut butter has fine print telling me that this product contains peanuts (so there is no confusion) a casino can write something so vague.
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December 19th, 2017 at 6:48:21 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

I thought about it that way too. I also considered 2500 points to get $40 in free play. Glad I'm not the only one who isn't clear.

It's funny that for me to me that in a world where peanut butter has fine print telling me that this product contains peanuts (so there is no confusion) a casino can write something so vague.

I live in a world where it oftentimes claims this product contains NOTHING as described in the name of the product.

I get really annoyed when I buy "juice" and then I notice it says...this product contains NO juice.
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December 19th, 2017 at 6:56:53 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I live in a world where it oftentimes claims this product contains NOTHING as described in the name of the product.

I get really annoyed when I buy "juice" and then I notice it says...this product contains NO juice.



Or bottled water that says its "purified"

Not to confuse people with selling "tap" water (purified water is tap water)
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December 19th, 2017 at 9:41:42 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

How do you read this? 1250 points = $40 in free play?

EARN FREE SLOTPLAY®

Earn 250 Slot Points = $5 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 500 Slot Points = $10 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 750 Slot Points = $20 in Free SlotPlay

Earn Additional 1000 Slot Points = $40 in Free SlotPlay



In case anyone couldn't sleep, this means $75 in free play for 1000 points. $2 a point. Not a bad promotion...
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