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jamesbond007
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:07:50 PM permalink
I hit to royal flush last weekend, I held 3 to a royal and drew the other 2 for a $4000 payout. While the attendant was getting my money, I played 3 more hands and hit another royal flush holding the Jack of clubs and drew the other 4 cards. That's 2 royal flush within 4 hands I could not believe it on the same machine for a total of $8000 payout, wonder what the odds of that is.

I post the picture when I figure how to post it,


Ok here is the videos, the first one and then 2nd a few hands later

http://youtu.be/_4FvZrt-r8w


http://youtu.be/4TcY2wHIxTQ
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:12:51 PM permalink
Not terribly unusual.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:22:07 PM permalink
I don't understand a poll with 2 'yes' choices.

I don't understand what the poll is about anyway.

I don't know how you could play 3 more rounds on the same machine while the attendant is getting your money. At that point the machine is locked and isn't unlocked until AFTER you are paid and the 4000 credits removed.

But, whatever. Congrats, I guess.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:25:37 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I don't understand a poll with 2 'yes' choices.

I don't understand what the poll is about anyway.

I don't know how you could play 3 more rounds on the same machine while the attendant is getting your money. At that point the machine is locked and isn't unlocked until AFTER you are paid and the 4000 credits removed.

But, whatever. Congrats, I guess.




The poll with 2 yes choices was a mistake when I posted it, The attendant unlock my machine and was getting my money and I still had over 200 credit left after the $4000 ticket was taken. If you ever won over $1200 you know that.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:27:16 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Not terribly unusual.



Um, Yes, I'd say it's pretty unusual. Statistically possible, of course. Each royal should average over 100 hours of play. Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.

I'm pretty confident we can say he beat some serious odds in getting 2 in 4 hands and getting one holding one card.


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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:28:36 PM permalink
Quote: jamesbond007

The poll with 2 yes choices was a mistake when I posted it, The attendant unlock my machine and was getting my money and I still had over 200 credit left after the $4000 ticket was taken. If you ever won over $1200 you know that.



I have hit $4000 Royals many times and have never seen the attendant remove the 4000 credits until AFTER they paid me. As a matter of fact, I would not allow them to remove the 4000 credits until AFTER they paid me.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:31:30 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.ZCore13



In a 52 card deck game drawing a royal holding one card is:

47X46X45X44/4X3X2X1 = 178,365
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:32:53 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

In a 52 card deck game drawing a royal holding one card is:

47X46X45X44/4X3X2X1 = 178,365



And if that one card I hold is the 9 of clubs?
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:48:08 PM permalink
I'll back poster up here- today I got dealt a royal on joker poker with the joker for 3000 dollars the attendant cleared it ASAP and I started playing again while she was filling out the paperwork and waiting to pay me- I then moved to nickels amd got dealt 5 of a kind unfortunately zero multipliers so it was only another 1000
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:50:10 PM permalink
PIC OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN


Any good agent knows that. Certainly you have a micro camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhX2UFNqysc
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September 2nd, 2014 at 9:53:02 PM permalink
Quote: jamesbond007

The poll with 2 yes choices was a mistake when I posted it, The attendant unlock my machine and was getting my money and I still had over 200 credit left after the $4000 ticket was taken. If you ever won over $1200 you know that.



That is VERY strange. Usually they have you sign the W2G, hand you your money (or ticket), and then (finally) unlock the machine. I have a shoebox full of W2Gs this year and that is how every one of them has been handled.

I thought you meant that you went and played at the machine beside you while you were waiting for the attendant.

Anyway, congrats; hitting RFs that close together is a very unlikely event. Less than one in a lifetime.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 10:04:02 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

That is VERY strange. Usually they have you sign the W2G, hand you your money (or ticket), and then (finally) unlock the machine. I have a shoebox full of W2Gs this year and that is how every one of them has been handled.

I thought you meant that you went and played at the machine beside you while you were waiting for the attendant.

Anyway, congrats; hitting RFs that close together is a very unlikely event. Less than one in a lifetime.



I will post the video of it back to back, just have to figure it out, I am in Florida and different casino may do it different, in Tampa, Hardrock, Attendant will print the ticket and will take about 10 mins to get my W-2G and my cash, the machine will have my remaining credits minus the 4000 credits. The 1st Royal, and anther 12 sec video with the 2nd video, will will be able to hear the attendant radio the other attendant saying at the end he hit back to back jackpots.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 10:19:13 PM permalink
Why is there a Shakleford in that video ??
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September 2nd, 2014 at 11:22:06 PM permalink
Just to be clear, I am not saying it didn't happen. I just have never heard of it happening that way. Usually, clearing the machine is the last thing thy do, after disappearing with your ID and social security card and then returning with paper work and money. I think they want that machine locked, playing that cheezy music and displaying the jackpot for as long as possible for advertising purposes. Maybe it is different in other jurisdictions, but again, I can tell you, no one is taking the credits off my machine until I have the cash in my hand.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 11:51:32 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Just to be clear, I am not saying it didn't happen. I just have never heard of it happening that way. Usually, clearing the machine is the last thing thy do, after disappearing with your ID and social security card and then returning with paper work and money. I think they want that machine locked, playing that cheezy music and displaying the jackpot for as long as possible for advertising purposes. Maybe it is different in other jurisdictions, but again, I can tell you, no one is taking the credits off my machine until I have the cash in my hand.



I know in Atlantic City when I hit a royal flush there, I had to wait and listen to that terrible music for 15 minutes before that came with my cash and cleared the machine, can't remember how they did it in Vegas it been awhile since I hit a Jackpot in Vegas, if they paid me before they cleared the machine. But anyways, In Tampa, FL they will clear it and pay you while getting your cash and your paper work, I guess all casino have their own rules.
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September 2nd, 2014 at 11:55:22 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

And if that one card I hold is the 9 of clubs?



If you hold the 9 of clubs it one out of quaddrillion, it will never happen!
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September 3rd, 2014 at 12:08:35 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Um, Yes, I'd say it's pretty unusual. Statistically possible, of course. Each royal should average over 100 hours of play. Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.

I'm pretty confident we can say he beat some serious odds in getting 2 in 4 hands and getting one holding one card.


ZCore13



100 hours? What game? Hands per hour?
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September 3rd, 2014 at 12:11:26 AM permalink
The 15 minutes waiting used to be considered free advertising. Apparently too much advertising and people were being robbed so some have stopped the practice. I know at the Rivers Pittsburgh they don't keep them locked anymore and you wouldn't know someone won a jackpot unless you saw it before the attendant came.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 12:17:06 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Um, Yes, I'd say it's pretty unusual. Statistically possible, of course. Each royal should average over 100 hours of play. Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.

I'm pretty confident we can say he beat some serious odds in getting 2 in 4 hands and getting one holding one card.


ZCore13

?, thats some coin dropper stuff. 50 hours is more like it, 45 is even doable.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 12:27:14 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Um, Yes, I'd say it's pretty unusual. Statistically possible, of course. Each royal should average over 100 hours of play. Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.



Obviously the amount of time to hit a royal is dependent on how fast you play. In most games it's about 1 in 40,000 hands. 400 hands per hour seems really slow to me, but maybe some people do play that slowly.

Drawing a royal holding only 1 card is 1 in 47 choose 4. That is 1 in 178,000 or so. Even a dealt royal is about 1 in 650k. I'm not sure where you got 1 in a million from.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 3:33:09 AM permalink
did they lock up the machine after the 2nd one since it was obviously a hot machine?
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September 3rd, 2014 at 3:40:13 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

did they lock up the machine after the 2nd one since it was obviously a hot machine?

+1
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September 3rd, 2014 at 4:53:51 AM permalink
Hot machine???
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September 3rd, 2014 at 5:11:35 AM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

Hot machine???

Absolutely.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 5:45:58 AM permalink
They not only shut down the machine, they even took out the computer board inside to exam it to see if it was malfunctioning.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 5:52:21 AM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

That is VERY strange. Usually they have you sign the W2G, hand you your money (or ticket), and then (finally) unlock the machine. I have a shoebox full of W2Gs this year and that is how every one of them has been handled.


Not strange at all.
Depends on the casino or maybe states, usually for me it is one slot attendant comes rather soon, write down all the information (everything, including player's SSN, driver license etc)
and also reset the machine so that you can continue playing.
Then you have to wait for a long time for the real money (plus your W2G ) to come, usually at least two people or more, one slot attendant, one security, maybe other persons as well.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 5:56:44 AM permalink
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They not only shut down the machine, they even took out the computer board inside to exam it to see if it was malfunctioning.

Did anyone get burned?
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September 3rd, 2014 at 6:57:15 AM permalink
Quote: pokerface

Not strange at all. Depends on the casino or maybe states, usually for me it is one slot attendant comes rather soon, write down all the information (everything, including player's SSN, driver license etc) and also reset the machine so that you can continue playing.Then you have to wait for a long time for the real money (plus your W2G ) to come, usually at least two people or more, one slot attendant, one security, maybe other persons as well.



This was not my experience in Nevada. I hit well over 100 handpay royals in various locations while I was there. Before TITO even quarter ($1000), ten cent ($400) and nickel royals ($200) were handpays. Though I never really played on the ten cent and nickel levels unless it was multi-play. The machine locked up, they came and got your ID and Social Security card, went in the back and filled out a W-2G, came back and made you sign the W-2G, then payed you the cash. Then they unlocked the machine and asked you to play off the hand.

And I'm like kewlj anyway. I wouldn't play anything off until the cash is in my hand.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 7:24:21 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

This was not my experience in Nevada. I hit well over 100 handpay royals in various locations while I was there. Before TITO even quarter ($1000), ten cent ($400) and nickel royals ($200) were handpays. Though I never really played on the ten cent and nickel levels unless it was multi-play. The machine locked up, they came and got your ID and Social Security card, went in the back and filled out a W-2G, came back and made you sign the W-2G, then payed you the cash. Then they unlocked the machine and asked you to play off the hand. And I'm like kewlj anyway. I wouldn't play anything off until the cash is in my hand.



I should clarify this. I didn't get W-2G's on royals less than $1200, but I still had to wait for the handpay, and after being payed, they would unlock the machine and request that I play the hand off.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 7:53:00 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I should clarify this. I didn't get W-2G's on royals less than $1200, but I still had to wait for the handpay, and after being payed, they would unlock the machine and request that I play the hand off.



So, that brings up a question I've always had, why do they want you to play the hand off the machine? What if you refuse and just cash out the remaining credits?
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September 3rd, 2014 at 8:08:28 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

So, that brings up a question I've always had, why do they want you to play the hand off the machine? What if you refuse and just cash out the remaining credits?

They don't want it to be claimed a second time and they will do it themselves. A relic they say not really necessary anymore but they do it anyways.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 8:19:17 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

So, that brings up a question I've always had, why do they want you to play the hand off the machine? What if you refuse and just cash out the remaining credits?

Nothing, in the past they would go into the hopper and grab coins to play it for you.

They don't want a situation where you or someone comes along and tries double claim it. Sounds strange but it has happened in the past. better safe than sorry.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 8:31:48 AM permalink
Quote: pokerface

They not only shut down the machine, they even took out the computer board inside to exam it to see if it was malfunctioning.

In Kansas city, I'm not sure exactly how high it has to be(10k i think) or if they still do it. After a 10k $1 RF, they called in gaming control and tested the chip before any money was given. They didn't check on 5k $5 denom.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 6:39:23 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

did they lock up the machine after the 2nd one since it was obviously a hot machine?



I am not sure what happen after the 2nd royal flush, I took the money and went to my room and counted all my C notes. They might have taken the machine and beat it with a sledge hammer and set on fire. I will tell you there was a slot machine at the casino it hit for over $200,000 and the next week I never saw that machine again, they must put it out of service.
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September 3rd, 2014 at 7:58:26 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Just to be clear, I am not saying it didn't happen. I just have never heard of it happening that way. Usually, clearing the machine is the last thing thy do, after disappearing with your ID and social security card and then returning with paper work and money. I think they want that machine locked, playing that cheezy music and displaying the jackpot for as long as possible for advertising purposes. Maybe it is different in other jurisdictions, but again, I can tell you, no one is taking the credits off my machine until I have the cash in my hand.

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September 3rd, 2014 at 8:12:33 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Um, Yes, I'd say it's pretty unusual. Statistically possible, of course. Each royal should average over 100 hours of play. Drawing a royal holding only one card is over one in a million.

I'm pretty confident we can say he beat some serious odds in getting 2 in 4 hands and getting one holding one card.


ZCore13



I have played a lot of video poker over the past few years. Zero Royal Flushes. Never had one.
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