Cash Your Paycheck Here
CASH YOUR PAYCHECK HERE AND RECEIVE A 125 COIN BONUS ON YOUR NEXT FOUR OF A KIND.
It's a great little promotion but the problem is you only get maybe 1,2 or 4 paychecks per month. And working stiffs generally play low denom like quarters.
The Pioneer in Laughlin put this promotion on in the early nineties. Danny L., a legendary Laughlin casino hustler went across the River to Bullhead City and opened up a payroll account for a ficticious balloon company. He wrote paychecks to all his friends once a week. Then he bankrolled them to play $5 9/6 Jacks until they hit a 4 of a Kind. He gave them a cut of the money. Basically, he turned a 99.54% game into a 105.45% game.
When they caught up with Danny they told him "Not only are you 86'd for life, if we ever catch you on this property again we will break your neck."
By the time I met Danny he was down to just one casino in Laughlin, Harrah's. He was also welcome in the Nugget and Riverside sports books but was not allowed to touch a machine in either joint. Danny gave me some very good advice about Flush Attack and some other games. And I took off like a rocket.
There is some more to this story that I will put up in later posts.
Nowadays the best you can get is ONE 4OAK, with a 100 credit bonus. Maybe 2 if the casino is pretty far away and needs business.
So I cabbed it to Stations Casino in St. Charles. Stations was actually a two casino affair. The first side I went into there were lots of Visions, quarter, dollar and a few $5. Diamond Mines, Fishin' For Cash, Wild Cherry Pies, Slot Bingo's, Balloon Bars, Diamond Thief's. And a few others I can't remember the names of. All the damn machines were ripe. I started playing them off. By the time I played them all off the ones I had started on were back on plays.
The action on the machines sloughed off at the dinner hour so I decided to take a look at the casino on the other side. I got in there and it was the same damn thing. Plus they had a 10-20 holdem game in the poker room. I estimated that Stations was worth $2000 a week. Good enough to hold me there. I grabbed the phone book and found an extended stay about a mile from the casino. I cabbed it back to the airport, picked up my rollaway, then cabbed it to the extended stay. Everyday I cabbed it back and forth between the extended stay and the casino.
There were 3 local hustlers there who had never been anywhere else. Some Nevada hustler had come through, taught them the Visions, then promptly killed himself with a heroin overdose. They decided they were gonna freeze me out. Everywhere I went in the casino they tailed me. One would be in front of me. One would be behind me. And one would be circling me. They were bound and determined to beat me to every play. But those boys didn't know who the hell they were messing with. I knew one hell of a lot more about Visions than they did. They only took the super nut plays. I knew how to play the marginal and make money by running volume. So I circled those three assholes and knocked everything down. They started calling me "the vacuum cleaner" and tried to explain to me that I would go broke playing the way I was.
"No I ain't you ignorant f---s. And you assholes ain't gonna make a dime in this joint unless I let you. So you better loosen up and quit messing with me. I can be your friend or your worst enemy. Take your pick."
They decided they would be better off if they befriended me. It was a good decision on there part because I taught them a hell of a lot about Visions before I left St. Charles.
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Quote: DRichThe Palms had this paycheck cashing 4ofk bonus and everyone I know beat it up pretty good. My wife got thrown out of the Palms for exploiting this and that was before I even knew her. If I remember correctly they gave us a coupon good for 125 coins when cashing your paycheck. I was buying them for $25 off of everybody I could.
So your ol' lady is a hustler too? You married well, Rich.
Quote: mickeycrimmSo your ol' lady is a hustler too? You married well, Rich.
Actually, she is not but she used to work at a business that was run by some savvy AP's and they would all go out after work on some plays. I am fortunate that she understands enough about it that not only does she not sweat my plays, but she is reasonably competent and I can put her on some plays with me.
BTW, I am jealous of her. She has been to a Blackjack Ball and I have not. Granted, she was just a guest, but I am still jealous.
There were lots of places that did this, off hand, places I can remember. Won't say how I got the paychecks(It was clever), best to keep things like that to yourself.Quote: mickeycrimmI'm sure Axel and his crew pounded this promotion back in the day. At one time it was a promotion that was found in lots of places. The "big player" concept was used to exploit it.
CASH YOUR PAYCHECK HERE AND RECEIVE A 125 COIN BONUS ON YOUR NEXT FOUR OF A KIND.
It's a great little promotion but the problem is you only get maybe 1,2 or 4 paychecks per month. And working stiffs generally play low denom like quarters.
The Pioneer in Laughlin put this promotion on in the early nineties. Danny L., a legendary Laughlin casino hustler went across the River to Bullhead City and opened up a payroll account for a ficticious balloon company. He wrote paychecks to all his friends once a week. Then he bankrolled them to play $5 9/6 Jacks until they hit a 4 of a Kind. He gave them a cut of the money. Basically, he turned a 99.54% game into a 105.45% game.
When they caught up with Danny they told him "Not only are you 86'd for life, if we ever catch you on this property again we will break your neck."
By the time I met Danny he was down to just one casino in Laughlin, Harrah's. He was also welcome in the Nugget and Riverside sports books but was not allowed to touch a machine in either joint. Danny gave me some very good advice about Flush Attack and some other games. And I took off like a rocket.
There is some more to this story that I will put up in later posts.
The Pioneer that you mentioned WAS VERY GOOD ($5 denomination) I would go once a week(If I had time) with a few people.
Not a check cashing thing but since you mentioned Mc Don Laughlin. Ramada had 100 coin bonus coupons in a fun book you could get all day long for free at the mall.
Frontier did this for a long time.
Casino Royale (needed a gaming card, so I got one my previous one expired ).
@ Rampart You could play one per day.
@ Palms you could play $2 denomination for a while. Unlimited at first. Then 1 per day.
Palace station had a scratch card for check cashing, one of the common prizes was a 4 of a kind bonus on Q K J. People would just give you them or leave them on machines. Usually Cashed one a few per day since I was playing FA anyways. If i failed to hit, I always knew a local regular who would use it and split with me.
Sahara had $50 for specific 4's you could collect a set. The set was not needed because you could use wild cards(joker and deuces wild) and play nickles. No one said anything about using more then one. You could usually trade 1 free beer coupon to the Mexican day laborers for all their coupons. It also had A Match play or Ace, FREE dinner to the old school (Italian?) steak house.
Friday night I would go to the Frontier and pick up former coworkers/ GF's /friends and offer a few drinks on me (or a few bucks)if you come cash your checks. They all hung out after work on pay days anyways. Kitchen workers would beg to come. I went back and fourth with a car full of people 6 times in one night.
There were tons of other things like this in the past dealing with paychecks. Also some non paycheck 4 of a kind bonuses. One group gave had coupons that gave a $200 bonus on a $1, 4 of a kind, you could play 4 or 5 per day.
As well you should be!Quote: DRichShe has been to a Blackjack Ball and I have not. Granted, she was just a guest, but I am still jealous.
Quote: DJTeddyBearAs well you should be!
Grouch said it for me : ""PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE ME AS A MEMBER".
One of the local hustlers had it in his head that the machines were programmed to take so much money in then pay so much money out. So if he got on a dollar Cherry Pie that was three cherries to go in one section and three cherries to go in another section....and he hit the three red sevens for $100.... in his mind the machine was then programmed to go cold....so he would quit the play. I would come in behind him and spin it off. He never hung around to watch me spin it off but always asked me how I did the next time he saw me. I always told him I got beat to encourage him to keep doing what he was doing. He just couldn't get it through his thick head that the odds of hitting anything are the same on every spin.
One day I decided to fly up to Chicago and look around. I flew into Midway and took a cab to the Grand Victoria in Elgin. Within two minutes of entering I knew it was a huge spot. Visions everywhere, quarter blue screen bingo's, everything getting action from the ploppies. Then I spied a carousel of Times Pays across the casino in a little high roller area. I headed straight for them drooling at the mouth. There was one person playing, his back was to me, but as I got closer I recognized the profile. "Aw, shit. Don't tell me. dammit." It was Danny L. There were 4 machines, one was a 4X, one was a 5X, one was a 6X and one was a 7X. I had never seen multipliers that big in Nevada.
"Danny! What the hell are you doing here?" He spun around.
"Me? What the hell are you doing here?"
"Just out seeing the sights. I'm holed up in St. Charles, Missouri but thought I'd come up and take a look."
"You gonna hang around here?"
"Well, it looks like you beat me to the punch. I can tell it's a damn good spot though. But I won't move in on you."
"Thanks. Yeah, it's a good spot. You ever see multipliers this big in Nevada?"
"Hell, no."
Times Pays were a goldmine. I first got clued into them by a hustler in Laughlin. He was a poker dealer at Sycuan but spent his off days playing the Visions in Laughlin. He was trying to talk the Sycuan casino manager into putting Visions in the casino. One day he handed me a bunch of parr sheets for Visions.
"Where in the hell did you get these?" I asked.
"From the casino manager at Sycuan. He asked me to pick the machines I wanted. Can you go through these sheets and tell me which ones you would put in?"
"Sure." I sat down and went through them. I got to the Times Pays and went "Wow!"
Times Pays came in several different configurations with several different games. Take a 70/40/20 Double Diamond for example. When the machine comes out of double pay mode the LED screen at the top of the machine starts flashing "WATCH FOR" in big green letters. At 70 coins in the LED screen will start flashing "COMING SOON" in big red letters. From this point the double pay mode could trigger on the first coin in all the way to the 80th coin in. The average is 40. When double pay triggers you get 20 spins in double pay mode. With this configuration it was an automatic play when you found the machine flashing "COMING SOON."
"So how long are you gonna hang around?" Danny asked me.
"Just enough to make about $500 to cover expenses. I'll probably do it on those quarter Blue Screen Bingo's over there."
"It won't take you long over there. The gentiles give that bank lots of action."
"Danny, which hotel are you staying at?" I needed to get a room for the night.
"The folks here think I'm a sucker. I pull the card a lot. They got me and my old lady comped into the Crown Plaza."
"Damn, buddy, you got it going on! You gonna head back to Nevada any time soon?"
"Hell, no! Not until they throw me out of here."
"Well, good seeing you, buddy. I guess I better head over to the Bingo's and get started."
"Good seeing you too. Stop back by before you leave town."
"I will."
I got up and headed to the Blue Screen Bingo's.
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The Blue Screen Bingo's were a five reel, five line, video game. Bingo was the theme. There were line pays, but the object was to make a bingo and go into a bonus round. The bingo balls came out as you played. The B balls would come out on the 1st reel. The I balls would come out on the 2nd reel. The N balls would come out on the 3rd reel. The G balls came out on the 4th reel. The O balls came out of the 5th reel.
There was an LED screen with a bingo card on it. You could pick whatever bingo pattern you wanted. Anything from a regular bingo to a coverall. The max bet was 25 coins. The edge in the game was finding a machine where the prior player left a partial pattern. So the strongest play you could find was a coverall where the player was max betting and left the machine with 23 balls covered out of the 24.
You would simply come in behind them and bet one coin until you completed the coverall and went into the bonus round. The bonuses were based on the amount of action it took to complete the bingo pattern. Five bingo balls would appear. You got to pick one ball and were awarded however many coins were behind it. You could literally spend a few bucks spinning the pattern off and get a 2000 coin bonus. That was the potential.
So I was sitting at the bar waiting for another play when I hear from behind
"Mickey, what in the hell are you doing here?" I turned around. It was Tim S.
"Me? What the hell are you doing here?"
"I've been here for two months. You're not going to hang around here are you?"
Tim was a former poker dealer at the Belle and Edgewater in Laughlin who had developed into a low level casino hustler.
"Well, no offense, Tim, but if it was just you here I probably would. But Danny's here. He did me a big favor when I was just getting started. He steered me in the right direction. And you know Danny. He told don't nobody nothing. But he did me. So I'm returning the favor. I told him I would just make expenses and move on down the line."
"Thanks. So just a day or two, huh?"
"Yeah, I figure to pull about $500 out of these Bingo's then pull out. When are you going back to Laughlin?"
"Not until they throw me out of here. I'm headed to the other side. Good seeing you."
"Yeah, I'll see you back in Laughlin."
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This was the playfield for Bingo:
Quote: DRichThose Blue screen Bingo's were made by a company called CDS (Casino Data Systems). That was probably their most sucessful game. I saw one as recently as about two years ago at Mermaids in Las Vegas. This was the playfield for Bingo:
Nice shot, Rich. Thanks for putting it up. This was the original version of the game. They came out with a second generation of the game where the max bet was either 45 or 90 coins. Those machines were red. So we started calling the earlier version Blue Screen and the latter version Red Screen to differentiate between the two. The ones in Mermaids have been there for years.
Quote: DRichThose Blue screen Bingo's were made by a company called CDS (Casino Data Systems). That was probably their most sucessful game. I saw one as recently as about two years ago at Mermaids in Las Vegas.
In the lower left corner of the picture you can see what bingo you would be after. It's says "Any Way" which is a regular bingo. The key here is the amount of the last bet. The person left a partial pattern and was max betting 25 coins. I would go ahead and spin this play off. But if it showed something like a 5 coin bet I would keep walking. The bonuses are based on the amount of action to complete the pattern.
This was the playfield for Bingo:
Danny hung around the Race books (bad sign). I have known him to be down on his luck often.
I had some disturbing news a year or so ago. I heard from a few people who worked with him that he was now broke living in California in a storage unit.
No one I know of has seen him around. Any updates on if he is doing better or where he is located?
So get him to at least move to a storage unit in Vegas where the action is.Quote: AxelWolfI heard from a few people that he was now broke living in California in a storage unit.
In the old days of hanging around race tracks you could always tell when a gambler was down on his luck from the oats on his shirt.
To hot in VegasQuote: FleaStiffSo get him to at least move to a storage unit in Vegas where the action is.
In the old days of hanging around race tracks you could always tell when a gambler was down on his luck from the oats on his shirt.
Quote: AxelWolfMickey, you have mentioned Danny the hat A few times Now. He was always a nice guy to me, he would share some information, usually what other guys were playing. A few guys would call him a Black Cat(not me) when he would hang around, machine rail birding the higher denomination plays, like $5 progressives and $25 machines. Sometimes he was looking to get put in action, or even just making gift shop runs for guys getting snacks etc etc.
Danny hung around the Race books (bad sign). I have known him to be down on his luck often.
I had some disturbing news a year or so ago. I heard from a few people who worked with him that he was now broke living in California in a storage unit.
No one I know of has seen him around. Any updates on if he is doing better or where he is located?
Well, this is disturbing news to me too. But Danny always had that big Race book leak. For all his brilliance with machines I just couldn't figure out why he thought he could beat the horses. After Elgin he showed back up in Laughlin. This was in 2002. He was sitting pretty high in the saddle then. His old lady had made a couple of $50,000 spins on those Times Pays in Elgin. The Belle let him back in but poker only. I ran into him at the WSOP in 2003. He was working the poker room promotions at the Luxor. I'm thinking it was the 2004 WSOP the last time I saw him. He was broke and I gave him $200. If I knew where he was at today I would send him some money. Maybe even put him back in action. But I'm isolated up here in Montana. I wouldn't know where to start looking for him.
Quote: BuzzardAmazing Mickey how,many guys are winners in a game and insist on losing their winnings in another game. Just that self destructive gene I guess ?
Buzz, I would say 95% of the hustlers I knew had some kind of gambling leak. Axel and me are actually a pretty rare breed. We're machine pros that don't go broke doing stupid stuff.
Quote: BuzzardMickey, my Dad was always saying " If you don't like me, we're even. " Best advice he ever gave me was " Don't be afraid of anybody who goes to sleep or turns their back. "
Your dad was a pretty sharp cookie. He was the kind of man I would always like to meet.
Quote: mickeycrimmThe Blue Screen Bingo's were sitting right next to a bar. I sat at the bar drinking a coke and watched the ploppies play. Anytime someone left a machine with a good pattern I would spin it off, then sit back down at the bar and wait for another play. The Bingos were manufactured by some oddball company of which I can't remember the name.
The Blue Screen Bingo's were a five reel, five line, video game. Bingo was the theme. There were line pays, but the object was to make a bingo and go into a bonus round. The bingo balls came out as you played. The B balls would come out on the 1st reel. The I balls would come out on the 2nd reel. The N balls would come out on the 3rd reel. The G balls came out on the 4th reel. The O balls came out of the 5th reel.
There was an LED screen with a bingo card on it. You could pick whatever bingo pattern you wanted. Anything from a regular bingo to a coverall. The max bet was 25 coins. The edge in the game was finding a machine where the prior player left a partial pattern. So the strongest play you could find was a coverall where the player was max betting and left the machine with 23 balls covered out of the 24.
You would simply come in behind them and bet one coin until you completed the coverall and went into the bonus round. The bonuses were based on the amount of action it took to complete the bingo pattern. Five bingo balls would appear. You got to pick one ball and were awarded however many coins were behind it. You could literally spend a few bucks spinning the pattern off and get a 2000 coin bonus. That was the potential.
So I was sitting at the bar waiting for another play when I hear from behind
"Mickey, what in the hell are you doing here?" I turned around. It was Tim S.
"Me? What the hell are you doing here?"
"I've been here for two months. You're not going to hang around here are you?"
Tim was a former poker dealer at the Belle and Edgewater in Laughlin who had developed into a low level casino hustler.
"Well, no offense, Tim, but if it was just you here I probably would. But Danny's here. He did me a big favor when I was just getting started. He steered me in the right direction. And you know Danny. He told don't nobody nothing. But he did me. So I'm returning the favor. I told him I would just make expenses and move on down the line."
"Thanks. So just a day or two, huh?"
"Yeah, I figure to pull about $500 out of these Bingo's then pull out. When are you going back to Laughlin?"
"Not until they throw me out of here. I'm headed to the other side. Good seeing you."
"Yeah, I'll see you back in Laughlin."
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I spent the night in a hotel in Elgin and by early the next day had made a little more than $500 off the Bingo machines. Then I jumped in a cab for the Hollywood Casino in Aurora. They had quarter, 50 cent and dollar Visions in the place but I estimated the place might be worth $600 a week, not enough to hold me there. But I did pick up some expense money. So I jumped in a cab to Harrah's/Joliet. Lot of Visions in the place but the Asians had everything locked down. Next stop was the Empress. Nothing in there.
So then I jumped in a cab to the casino in Hammond that is now called the Horseshoe, I can't remember what it was called back then. Lots of Visions in that joint but the Asians had that joint locked down too. The Asians are funny hustlers. Have you ever seen four Asians sweating one little old lady, standing right behind her when she's playing a Vision machine, hoping she will get up and leave a play? It's comical. Desperadoes waiting for a train.
So then I jump in a cab and head to Harrah's in East Chicago, I think. But as we got closer to the casino I was spying out the neighborhood. "Cab driver! To hell with this place. Turn around and take me to Midway." I flew back to St. Louis.
A few weeks later I flew to Omaha and went through the casinos in Council Bluffs. The meters on the Visions (you can look past the third reel on Visions and see the coin-in/coin-out meters) hadn't had enough action to turn over yet. The damn dollar Diamond Mines and Cherry Pies were 97%'ers. To bad they didn't get enough action to hold me there. Then I took Greyhound to Davenport and went through Rhythm City Casino and that casino in Bettendorf. They had some things but not enough. So back to St. Louis on Greyhound I went.
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I got into Laughlin and right off the bat I noticed an influx of hustlers. It looked like everybody had the same idea as me. The Pioneer kept delaying installing the system week by week. I bided my time on the other Laughlin plays and sitting in the Omaha 8 game at the Belle. One day I'm in the game and get a tap on the shoulder by a railbird. I turned around and it was Tim S.
"Hey, Tim. What's up? Hey! Are you hungry? I got plenty of comp at the Nugget. Do you wanna go eat?
"Sounds like a plan." he said. We walked over to the Nugget. After ordering I asked:
"So what happened in Elign?"
"I was there 6 months. We finally got kicked out. But not before my brother and me put together $100,000 bankrolls." He laughed.
"So you are all bankrolled up? What are you gonna do now?"
"I don't know? Is there anything going on here on the River?"
"Well, there's this Pioneer thing. But I don't know how that's going to pan out. You're bankrolled up enough for the video poker on the River. Lots of positive video poker."
"Well, I've got two problems with that. First, I don't know anything about video poker, and second, my old lady goes off with the gambling. It's all I can do to get her out of a casino once she gets in. And guess what? She's a video poker junkie."
"Do you have a computer?"
"Sure, I got a laptop."
"Next time you're up in Las Vegas stop by Gambler's General Store and pick up Winpoker. Or maybe you can order it online, I don't know."
"What's Winpoker gonna do for me."
"It's gonna teach you how to play video poker. You can practice any game. When you get to where you can go a 100 games without making a mistake you are there. And you can teach your old lady how to play. If she likes to gamble so much then put her on all the positive plays in Laughlin. That way she gets her gambling fix everyday and you get to make money."
He thought about it for a few seconds. Then he looked up with a big grin on his face.
"You know, you just might have something there." he said "Yeah, that's it! Train my ol' lady up. Why didn't I think of that. I think that's a hell of a plan."
"Sure it is." I said
"Mickey" he said with that big grin on his face. "You know how us hustlers are. Nobody likes anybody. We all hate each other."
Then he got a serious look on his face.
"How come nobody hates you, Mickey?"
"Tell 'em to catch me with a half a jug of whiskey in me. I'll clean 'em all up." We busted laughing.
Within a few weeks I saw Tim's old lady playing video poker everyday. And she was only playing the positive stuff. Tim trained her up pretty good.
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"I see your old lady playing those Pseudo Deuces all the time." I said
"Yeah, she's making us money nowadays. We ain't fighting over the gambling anymore either. Worked like a charm."
The Psuedo Deuces had the same payscale as FPDW but the Wild Royal was chopped from 25 for 1 to 20 for 1. The bank that Tim's wife played on had a 1% progressive meter.
"So, Mickey, you know they put the paycheck promotion back on at the Pioneer?"
"Oh, Yeah. But they're scrutinizing the paychecks. No fly by nighters."
"Yeah, well, you know, I know everybody that works at the Belle and the Edgewater. I used to work over there. I was wondering if you could help me break that play down. See if it's worth my while."
"Sure, no problem. You want to put the play down on the $5 denom. That's where the money is. And I'd go with 9/6 Jacks. Low variance. "
"What's the advantage?"
"It's right at 5.5%. You can run it on Winpoker. Just change the payscale to 50 for 1 on the quads. But the best way to look at the play is to discount out the royal flush and the straight flush. You got 3% the best of it on a 423 game cycle. It's huge."
I pulled out my pocket calculator.
It's worth about $320 a play and you are freerolling the royal and straight flush."
"What do you think I should offer them to put the play down?"
"Well, the cashback and comp on the card for sure. And maybe $50 to put the play down...........and I'd offer them half the taxables."
"Offer them half the royal? Are you crazy? That's $10,000!"
"No, it's one percent. You have to give them some incentive to play. You can't expect that they would take the offer knowing full well that if they hit a royal they are going to have to hand over the whole $20,000 to you....and meanwhile they get a W-2G. Same thing with the straight flush so offer them half of that too."
"I didn't think of that. How do I handle the taxes anyway?"
"The IRS has a form for splitting gambling winnings. I can't remember the number but I'm sure you can find it online. Be sure you show it to them while you are selling them on putting down the play."
"So if I give them $50, the card benefits, half the royal and straight flush, where does that leave me.?"
"You would still have about 3.75% the best of it. But discounting out the royal you would have 2.75% the best of it on a 423 game cycle."
I pulled out my pocket calculator again.
"That's about $290 a play plus freerolling the royal."
"Yeah, that might work. Offering them a $10,000 shot is like hanging a carrot in front of a donkey, ain't it?"
"Yep, nothing a working stiff likes better than a freeroll at some big bucks."
"Thanks for the help."
"No problem."
As I was doing my thing I was seeing Tim in the vicinity of a Belle employee playing a $5 9/6 Jacks in the Pioneer several times a day. This went on for a few weeks. One day I was walking by the cage and heard a cashier yell to the back "We got another Belle paycheck!!!"
One morning I woke up and flipped on the TV. There was a morning talk show on a TV station in Bullhead City that revolved around the Laughlin casino business. I usually listened to it in the mornings when I was showering and shaving. So that morning the guest on the show was the Pioneer casino manager. I was standing there shaving when the interviewer said "I see you've disqualified the $5 video pokers from the paycheck promotion. Why is that?"
"Well" the casino manager said. "Sometimes....when you put on a promotion....you get beat."
But I'm home now. I'm back home.
I'm the meanest, the baddest ass, I'm the toughest, the toughest machine pro on the planet earth.
Quote: mickeycrimmHome, sweet home, buddy. I made it home tonight. I didn't do as good as I thought I should. For a one week road trip I thought I should have done a gross of $3000 or there plus. I was standing in Missoula this morning with a $2952 earn for a one week road trip. I was all pissed off because I didn't break the $3000 dollar mark. That shit pisses me off. I had stripped the town out so now I have to go back to Great Falls with no bragging rights at all. I couldn't crack the $3000 mark. So now I'm on the bus back to Butte and them change busses to get my ass back to Great Falls.
But I'm home now. I'm back home.
I'm the meanest, the baddest ass, I'm the toughest, the toughest machine pro on the planet earth.
I kind of did this trip bass akwards. I should have gone all ghe way to Missoula first, then backtracked on Butte. But, no my lazy ass wouldn't do it that way. You know how us old farts are. I wiped out Butte before going to Missoula, except for Crazzee Carols and McGrath's. So I have to go back through Butte on the bus to get back to Great Falls. A five hour layover back in Butte. . Crazee Carol's is a mile and a half up a 1% grade. I'm a 61 year old man. Do you think I want to stonp up that trail?
But guess what, folks. Mickey Crimm. despite his advanced age, is gonna go up that hill. Do you know why? Whatever you think the reason is. But I can tell all you kind folk one thing. There is something mysterious going on in that joint called Crazy Carols's. I'm bound and determind to find out what it is. So my 61 year old ass is gonna walk that 1% grade on a 94 degree day. I intemded to find out the mysteries of 'Crazee Carol's joint. And I did. I made $53. I thougt about calling a cab to take me back to the bus station. But then I'm not a punk. I walked out of Crazzee Carol's joint and hoofed it all the way back to the bus station, 94 degree weather and all.
I wish you guys were as tough as me. I think you are as tough as me. I think you are tough in a different way than I am.
Did you see the hustlers convention or hear about it? Did they show up and not play, or did they play something for a day or 2 and it got changed? What game did they play?Quote: mickeycrimmAbout the time the Pioneer Hustler's Convention was over I ran into Tim.
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Me and my GF were there soon after they put the system in. Only people I seen was a smart Vegas Couple (you probably know who they are) on there way out of town, as I checked into the riverside.
Not sure why any of the hustlers would have left, there were many very good things to play there(very good no risk play). It was worth about $400 per day per person(however the more people the less it would be worth), bankroll needed $300. Perhaps they didn't think about the best way to play it. Perhaps they didn't realize how the system worked. I believe it was a ANCHOR GAMING system. They changed it after about 2 or 3 weeks and I lost my interest.
Quote: AxelWolfDid you see the hustlers convention or hear about it? Did they show up and not play, or did they play something for a day or 2 and it got changed? What game did they play?
Me and my GF were there soon after they put the system in. Only people I seen was a smart Vegas Couple (you probably know who they are) on there way out of town, as I checked into the riverside.
Not sure why any of the hustlers would have left, there were many very good things to play there(very good no risk play). It was worth about $400 per day per person(however the more people the less it would be worth), bankroll needed $300. Perhaps they didn't think about the best way to play it. Perhaps they didn't realize how the system worked. I believe it was a ANCHOR GAMING system. They changed it after about 2 or 3 weeks and I lost my interest.
Axel, was that you playing the four card keno, and using the 9/6 Jacks to keep the machine qualified? And yes, I know the couple you are speaking of. I figured out what they were doing and did the same thing. I was damn sure at the hustler's convention and damn sure exploited that double time system.
Yes it was me and My GF, I thought I mentioned this before to you. We played 2 machines each 1 coin on the 9/6 (played one coin because when the light came on we just redrew the hand quickly instead of wasting time looking for the right hold) then switched to the keno when the double time came on. We got double on all 2 spots. We had no competition or heat (the hustlers must have all left by the time I arrived) that alone was worth like $400 a day. It took a day or two to realize it didn't randomly come onQuote: mickeycrimmAxel, was that you playing the four card keno, and using the 9/6 Jacks to keep the machine qualified? And yes, I know the couple you are speaking of. I figured out what they were doing and did the same thing. I was damn sure at the hustler's convention and damn sure exploited that double time system.
(Anchor had a few variations some you could perfectly time) , the more bonus money given out during the bonus time the longer it would take to come back on. So the better you did the longer it took to come on.
After we cleaned out the bonus banking money in that section I would go to the $1 keno on the two bally's game makers in the back. I believe I had to play 3 spots on that to get double. The machines kept pissing me off, a lot of the time it F'ed me when I hit it, it wouldn't recognize the hit and screw me out of the double pay.
What everyone else really missed and was way better. I found a $1 Odyssey Machine with blackjack (the programming was all messed up) where you could bet $1- $100 and get double on all winning hands during the double time, including your bet. The problem was that machine was connected with some "high limit" slots and VP machines in the back( this is a low roller place) it took a very long time for it to come on, especially once I depleted the bonus money. once again The machines kept pissing me off, some of the time it F'ed me but less then the keno did.
I absolutely love plays like this, they are very fun and not boring like a progressive VP can get. You anticipate a huge edge knowing you have a a high percentage of getting a bonus, it relaxing free money with almost no risk. I would take a lot less per hr and play this over many other things.
Quote: AxelWolfYes it was me and My GF, I thought I mentioned this before to you. We played 2 machines each 1 coin on the 9/6 (played one coin because when the light came on we just redrew the hand quickly instead of wasting time looking for the right hold) then switched to the keno when the double time came on. We got double on all 2 spots. We had no competition or heat (the hustlers must have all left by the time I arrived) that alone was worth like $400 a day. It took a day or two to realize it didn't randomly come on
(Anchor had a few variations some you could perfectly time) , the more bonus money given out during the bonus time the longer it would take to come back on. So the better you did the longer it took to come on.
After we cleaned out the bonus banking money in that section I would go to the $1 keno on the two bally's game makers in the back. I believe I had to play 3 spots on that to get double. The machines kept pissing me off, a lot of the time it F'ed me when I hit it, it wouldn't recognize the hit and screw me out of the double pay.
What everyone else really missed and was way better. I found a $1 Odyssey Machine with blackjack (the programming was all messed up) where you could bet $1- $100 and get double on all winning hands during the double time, including your bet. The problem was that machine was connected with some "high limit" slots and VP machines in the back( this is a low roller place) it took a very long time for it to come on, especially once I depleted the bonus money. once again The machines kept pissing me off, some of the time it F'ed me but less then the keno did.
I absolutely love plays like this, they are very fun and not boring like a progressive VP can get. You anticipate a huge edge knowing you have a a high percentage of getting a bonus, it relaxing free money with almost no risk. I would take a lot less per hr and play this over many other things.
So you were on that video blackjack play too. I know Tim and Frank were. They were on it when the assistant casino manager pulled the double time sign off the machine and told them that machine was no longer eligible for double time. Of course that was after they tagged them for $13,000 over night. And guess what, Axel. I met you, and your girlfriend, on those Game Kings. I was there before you. I figured out what that couple was doing. I was the first one on it after they left.
