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Beethoven9th
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January 26th, 2014 at 4:36:26 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

I believe I made no mistakes when I played those six hours


You're basing your opinion on a mere SIX hours of play???? *facepalm*
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Wizard
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January 26th, 2014 at 5:19:57 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

Is this right, I was suspended? Huh? How does "personal insult" make sense?



If you said "wtf" to something your father said, how would he have responded?
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sodawater
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January 26th, 2014 at 5:29:53 PM permalink
tournamentking --

let's say you and i agree to flip a coin. if it's heads, you pay me $1000. if it's tails, i pay you $2000. We both give the money to a mutually trusted third party and we both certify the coin is fair.

It comes up heads. You pay me $1000. Am I a genius for making $1000 in a single flip? Or am I a moron for having a ridiculously bad bet?

Results do not matter when evaluating gambling. The only thing that matters is what you can control, whether you had a good bet or not.
AxiomOfChoice
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January 26th, 2014 at 5:37:48 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You're basing your opinion on a mere SIX hours of play???? *facepalm*



Moreover... why do you think you made no mistakes when you played those 6 hours? Are you including obscure penalty card plays here, or do you just mean that you followed a basic strategy perfectly?

How long did you practice before you played? Playing 6 hours with no errors is not easy. Certainly, people can do it, but most can't do it on their first time out. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it seems kind of unlikely.
AxelWolf
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January 26th, 2014 at 5:47:42 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Moreover... why do you think you made no mistakes when you played those 6 hours? Are you including obscure penalty card plays here, or do you just mean that you followed a basic strategy perfectly?

How long did you practice before you played? Playing 6 hours with no errors is not easy. Certainly, people can do it, but most can't do it on their first time out. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it seems kind of unlikely.

I seriously doubt that would of had much if any effect on his bad run.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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January 26th, 2014 at 5:53:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If you said "wtf" to something your father said, how would he have responded?

Are you implying since this this is your house, you are our daddy?

If that's the case, I think if you ever meet up with JJ, you should lead with, "Who's your daddy"
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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January 26th, 2014 at 6:01:00 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If you said "wtf" to something your father said, how would he have responded?



That depends on what my age was when I said it. As a teen, he would have slapped me silly. In my adult years, he'd have asked where the problem was, then he'd have listened to whatever I had to say about it. If we still disagreed and it started to get heated, well, I outgrew him in my 20's.
AxelWolf
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January 26th, 2014 at 6:01:59 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

tournamentking --

let's say you and i agree to flip a coin. if it's heads, you pay me $1000. if it's tails, i pay you $2000. We both give the money to a mutually trusted third party and we both certify the coin is fair.

It comes up heads. You pay me $1000. Am I a genius for making $1000 in a single flip? Or am I a moron for having a ridiculously bad bet?

Results do not m

You are a genius and I'm currently offering this bet at my house along with some razzle-dazzle
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tournamentking
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January 26th, 2014 at 6:05:36 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Moreover... why do you think you made no mistakes when you played those 6 hours? Are you including obscure penalty card plays here, or do you just mean that you followed a basic strategy perfectly?

How long did you practice before you played? Playing 6 hours with no errors is not easy. Certainly, people can do it, but most can't do it on their first time out. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it seems kind of unlikely.



I followed basic perfect strategy with a set of those strategy cards just in case. I played fairly slow, as you may be able to tell from the amounts I lost in each three hour session with no quads. I practiced at least twenty hours in the weeks prior, but it was on three different games.
tournamentking
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January 26th, 2014 at 6:14:42 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

How is it that you say, you understand slot so wel,l but don't understand VP? There is no such thing as a pay-happy Video poker machine OR a pay-happy slot machine. Slots and video poker work the same way basically. The only real differences is slot machines are set to a lower payback percentage because you cant make mistakes when betting max. And one can't easily calculate the payback percentage, unless they have par sheets or track the machine for along period of time.



Axel, by the time I get comfortable playing $2 and $5 and maybe even higher, you'll be BEGGING me to play for you. But I won't come cheap like the others.

Here's what a pay-happy vp machine is. It's one that wins more hands than it loses. My point was, vp ap's seem to believe if they have four awful losing sessions in a row, somehow their future machines will cooperate and get them to whatever their expectation theoretically should be. I call bs on that, for the simple reason that no one could possibly know if they'll constantly be sitting at machines that pay or just aren't paying, or whatever. It's all guess work, which in turn places an awful lot of emphasis on having very good luck. Am I wrong?

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