Vulturing 'Ultimate X'
Quote: AxelWolfAs most of you know you can use the buttons to quickly scan though all the games to check or you can use the touch screen, thats slower and more obvious. Since I dont check that often I use the touch screen.
I've seen people use the buttons, but I haven't actually investigated what they do (I don't want to accidentally screw something up by randomly button-mashing).
So... what's the faster way to check for multipliers? Is it valid on both the Ultimate-X and All-Star II machines?
Quote: AxelWolfGot schooled by some little old lady.
At least she still split with you for being nice.
Went to Horseshoe Hammond today and bricked on dealt 3 deuces with 3X on each line on deuces wild quarters. .. Doh. But some guy won $600 at triple double bonus in front of me in 5 minutes and gave me beer money as I wished him to hit something big while I got a beer. He hit the last $200 right after I wished him that. Both hits were from you VP from a pair on 3 play and $5 came my way for a beer. I broke even before beer thanks to my crappy run on normal VP. No quads today.
Quote: Mission146He offers the courteous reply of, "f7%#% off, you probably just started, I INVENTED doing this."
Is he a tall, thin, alcoholic-looking guy with a gravelly voice?
Quote: AxelWolfThere's a few curmudgeonly type guy(s) on here who are like that. I even think I remember someone saying something about the fact they have been gambling in Vegas since ....bla bla bla. Another ageist statement from me..... Old timers who gamble can't stand anyone who might know something they don't.
This applies to old people for a lot of things. Especially in the workplace it's quite common for old people to have little to no respect for young people even when they know significantly more than the older person. My wife is a software engineer and encounters this kind of age discrimination all the time at work even though the older men are usually the ones who come to her for help. :)
Does she oftentimes work late into the night? ;)Quote: scubatim84the older men are usually the ones who come to her for help. :)
Quote: DieterI've seen people use the buttons, but I haven't actually investigated what they do (I don't want to accidentally screw something up by randomly button-mashing).
So... what's the faster way to check for multipliers? Is it valid on both the Ultimate-X and All-Star II machines?
It depends on the machine. We have two types of UX machines at my local with very different displays and ways to cycle through games. I'd argue the buttons are faster on the type that only displays 4 games at once - but it's not worth arguing about it. You start at the last 10-play game and press enter, check screen, more games button, previous theme button (which is what more games button becomes on the game selection screen so you just press it twice quickly), enter, check, repeat. So it's two taps of the left button followed by one tap of the right button to get from one game to the next- really quick.
The other type of UX we have locally requires you to press the on-screen more games button and if the touch screen calibration is off....ugh.
Quote: Mission146Yeah, call it late-fifties early sixties.
I've run across him, too. If you don't mind telling me where you saw him, please PM me.
Mickey's in Pittsburgh now?Quote: Mission146
He offers the courteous reply of, "f7%#% off, you probably just started, I INVENTED doing this."
I had a good chuckle about that, and went back to my machine. After I was done, I saw him at the All-Star bank, "I was just trying to save you time, buddy, but you can keep looking if you want. See how those two paid out the same amount? That's because there were no plays on that one."
He responded, "I don't need you to tell me young'un, I was the first person to ever do this!!!"
:P
Quote: Boney526Anyone know where the ultimate x machines at Parx are located? It'd be appreciated!
There's one in the high limit room. But be careful, you may get backroomed playing that game over there.
Anyway I just figured I'd ask since I was over there playing poker. Got a 1/2 and 5/0 PLO8 game going.
Quote: Boney526I checked a couple of the low stakes ones, but thanks! And wow, can they backroom you for that? Obviously there's no obligation for them to allow me to gamble, but they shouldn't be able to detain someone for playing a game within it's rules.
Anyway I just figured I'd ask since I was over there playing poker. Got a 1/2 and 5/0 PLO8 game going.
Pretty sure he's joking. And PLO8 at a non-Vegas casino...I have seen them run a lot of O.E. there too via Bravo...must be nice.
But FWIW, the game doesn't run regularly. I've tried to get it started 3 times and this is the first time it went off. Luckily, this time it played for about 10 hours... even two tables had to be opened. Just gotta go on the right day. I think some of the OE players and O8 players might have joined in, plus Saturday's pretty busy. I was the person to start the list while I was in the Weekly 230 tournament, and it took off pretty quickly once I told a couple players about it. I didn't get into the game until a few hours later, and it ran for a total of around 9-10 hours.
Also, I think PLO8 runs at Borgata pretty regularly. Well I'm not sure, but a few people were talking about it as if it runs pretty regularly.
Quote: Boney526And wow, can they backroom you for that? Obviously there's no obligation for them to allow me to gamble, but they shouldn't be able to detain someone for playing a game within it's rules.
And there's no obligation for you to follow them to the backroom. If they force you, I can recommend a lawyer. you will have a great case against them for unlawful detainment, kidnapping, etc.
P.S. its (no apostrophe)
Hate to, "Waste," four Aces on BPDx, but it's a great game to be on for 5's-K's. I think for 2x-4x multipliers, I like seeing those on BPDx, for huge multipliers, probably get more excited on DDB and hope for something awesome to happen.
Quote: Mission146Nice hits!
Hate to, "Waste," four Aces on BPDx, but it's a great game to be on for 5's-K's. I think for 2x-4x multipliers, I like seeing those on BPDx, for huge multipliers, probably get more excited on DDB and hope for something awesome to happen.
I just played what was left on the screen. Vulturers can't be choosers. :)
Quote: Mission146May I co-opt that for my Sig, please?
If you are referring to my previous post in this thread, go right ahead.
Quote: cmlotitoVulturers can't be choosers. :)
Quote: DanMahoneyJust vultured a quarter 10 line DDB with every line having 2X, 3X, or 4X. It averaged out to about 3X or 30 lines. Why in the world would someone spend $25 a spin and leave such a honey? What an EV, so of course I put my $12.50 on the line and had visions of a delt AAAAkicker for $15K or even a delt royal for $30K. Sure beats a nickle machine. Cards were delt and all I got was 2 to a royal. Hit again and got a near brick on the 10 lines. I ended up losing $6.25. Oh what a world!
Get used to it! :-)
You can't hit a hand like this all of the time...
I've had that twice, but once was nickels and the other time was dimes.
Quote: Mission146Nice!
I've had that twice, but once was nickels and the other time was dimes.
It's my old one from a couple months ago now. Just used it as an example.
Quote: DanMahoneyJust vultured a quarter 10 line DDB with every line having 2X, 3X, or 4X. It averaged out to about 3X or 30 lines. Why in the world would someone spend $25 a spin and leave such a honey? What an EV, so of course I put my $12.50 on the line and had visions of a delt AAAAkicker for $15K or even a delt royal for $30K. Sure beats a nickle machine. Cards were delt and all I got was 2 to a royal. Hit again and got a near brick on the 10 lines. I ended up losing $6.25. Oh what a world!
You think that's bad, I found a 5 play 50 cent with 10x on all lines! Just mind blowing that someone would get a dealt flush and then walk away. Was dealt 3 to the royal but only got a few high pairs for a relatively small payout compared to what could have been. Would have been sweet to fill in that royal for 20k on one of the lines!
Quote: cf1984You think that's bad, I found a 5 play 50 cent with 10x on all lines! Just mind blowing that someone would get a dealt flush and then walk away. Was dealt 3 to the royal but only got a few high pairs for a relatively small payout compared to what could have been. Would have been sweet to fill in that royal for 20k on one of the lines!
I had this exact scenario but on nickel deuces wild. Hit nothing of significance.
Quote: cf1984You think that's bad, I found a 5 play 50 cent with 10x on all lines! Just mind blowing that someone would get a dealt flush and then walk away. Was dealt 3 to the royal but only got a few high pairs for a relatively small payout compared to what could have been. Would have been sweet to fill in that royal for 20k on one of the lines!
A while ago, I vultured a $10 3-line UX game. I don't remember the multipliers, but one was 10x, 11x, or 12x. The other line had a 2x or 3x on it. The third line had nothing. I get dealt a low pair (7's or 8's I think), and connect for a full-house on the only line without a multiplier. Sure, I'll take the +$300 I netted off of it, but I'd much rather have hit the FH on the 12x line for a nice +$5250. :)
And other times, the exact opposite has happened, so I guess it all works out. (It does work out, doesn't it?) Where I get dealt nothing, redraw, and get a FH or a 4oak on one of the only multiplier lines.
Then again, also had my share of 4-aces on a multiplying line and AWAK on a non-multiplying line.
But I hardly seek out UX vulturing anymore.
Quote: RSA while ago, I vultured a $10 3-line UX game. I don't remember the multipliers, but one was 10x, 11x, or 12x. The other line had a 2x or 3x on it. The third line had nothing. I get dealt a low pair (7's or 8's I think), and connect for a full-house on the only line without a multiplier. Sure, I'll take the +$300 I netted off of it, but I'd much rather have hit the FH on the 12x line for a nice +$5250. :)
And other times, the exact opposite has happened, so I guess it all works out. (It does work out, doesn't it?) Where I get dealt nothing, redraw, and get a FH or a 4oak on one of the only multiplier lines.
Then again, also had my share of 4-aces on a multiplying line and AWAK on a non-multiplying line.
But I hardly seek out UX vulturing anymore.
$10 UX? Seriously? Who has the brass balls for that (PM is okay)? I have found $5 in only a few places. One of which I have now been informed not to vulture there as it's against casino policy. Coincidentally it was my "luckiest" place historically. :( Worst market for me is easily Vegas now (used to be Tunica). I run like crap there. g/f and I lost at least $50 over casually looking for them last trip. Mainly lost $40 in ten minutes at Mirage while waiting for our rental car playing off random dollar multipliers.
SOP for many casinos ime is to max out UX at $1.
Quote: tringlomane$10 UX? Seriously? Who has the brass balls for that (PM is okay)? I have found $5 in only a few places. One of which I have now been informed not to vulture there as it's against casino policy. Coincidentally it was my "luckiest" place historically. :( Worst market for me is easily Vegas now (used to be Tunica). I run like crap there. g/f and I lost at least $50 over casually looking for them last trip. Mainly lost $40 in ten minutes at Mirage while waiting for our rental car playing off random dollar multipliers.
SOP for many casinos ime is to max out UX at $1.
Play two hands if you find multipliers instead of one? Is that not vulturing then?
Quote: rudeboyoiPlay two hands if you find multipliers instead of one? Is that not vulturing then?
You talking about the place that warned me? Yeah, he hinted something like that...but I think he meant to play more than two hands as well. I'll admit I was clearly hopping around machines. This isn't a local, so I don't really care that much.
Quote: tringlomaneYou talking about the place that warned me? Yeah, he hinted something like that...but I think he meant to play more than two hands as well. I'll admit I was clearly hopping around machines. This isn't a local, so I don't really care that much.
Missouri?
Quote: IbeatyouracesMissouri?
Harrah's Joliet (g/f parents live 30 min. from there...i get there maybe semi-annually). I'm in STL, yeah.
Quote: tringlomaneHarrah's Joliet (g/f parents live 30 min. from there...i get there maybe semi-annually). I'm in STL, yeah.
I knew where you were, just not the casino. Didn't know if you named it before and if you didn't, you didn't have to.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI knew where you were, just not the casino. Didn't know if you named it before and if you didn't, you didn't have to.
Oh I wrote a thread about it while you were gone. No biggie. Rather others be informed that they "care" now. Like I say, I didn't make it there often anyway.
It was in the HL room at the opera song place.
I do know where the rare "single line" Ultimate X can be found at though.
Quote: ajemeisterHow can a place warn you "not to vulture" ? if no one is using the machine and just sitting there than you have every right to sit down and play.. what's the difference if you play it or joe schmoe plays it, as long as you're not creating a scene
Because you're "taking money from the ploppies". Ploppy money gets recycled and ends up back in the casino's bank. UX Vulturers / AP's money does not go back into the casino's bank.
Quote: RSBecause you're "taking money from the ploppies". Ploppy money gets recycled and ends up back in the casino's bank. UX Vulturers / AP's money does not go back into the casino's bank.
but can you really get 86'd over this? especially if you don't play with a card?
Quote: ajemeisterbut can you really get 86'd over this? especially if you don't play with a card?
You can get 86'd for using the self serve pop too often if they want to.
Quote: ajemeisterbut can you really get 86'd over this? especially if you don't play with a card?
Well, they probably won't come up and just toss you. But if you directly ignore a warning and decide to argue with casino personnel I expect they may escort you out right there.
And they aren't doing this in every casino as far as I know.
That was 4.9 seconds to long.Quote: 21formeAbout a year ago, I found several multipliers on a $10 5 line game. $250 per spin - I thought about it for about 5 seconds, took the plunge, made $750 on the one spin, then left.
It was in the HL room at the opera song place.
