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Ibeatyouraces
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March 25th, 2013 at 7:54:45 AM permalink
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RogerKint
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March 25th, 2013 at 8:02:58 AM permalink
The WoO VP calculator says 98.87. I must confess I use this game to cash out free play at Binions.
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teddys
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March 25th, 2013 at 8:16:17 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

The WoO VP calculator says 98.87. I must confess I use this game to cash out free play at Binions.

Me too, LOL. You can modify your strategy by avoiding some of the royal holds (no KTs, QTs; 4F over 3RF, etc.). Obviously it doesn't matter how many quarters you play either.
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March 25th, 2013 at 8:17:15 AM permalink
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March 25th, 2013 at 8:25:03 AM permalink
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March 25th, 2013 at 8:52:35 AM permalink
Changes in the casino are never good. I get miffed when I see 2 coin QHs with 3 on center line pay table 5,000X coins instead of 10,000X. I do doubt any odds have changed to reduce this pay and they just want to reduce to big wins. Just leave all this alone and let people play. They shouldn't be giving people so many ways to count how today's casino sucks compared to yesterday.
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March 25th, 2013 at 11:49:24 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Me too, LOL. You can modify your strategy by avoiding some of the royal holds (no KTs, QTs; 4F over 3RF, etc.). Obviously it doesn't matter how many quarters you play either.



Yeah, this is definitely not a bad idea for freeplay if you're looking for a vast majority of your money back since variance is so low. If this machine was on the strip, I snap play it for 1 quarter/hand...lol

The newly passed Illinois "video gaming" law also has this issue because no win can be greater than $500. So with a five quarter bet the Royal only pays 400 for 1.
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March 25th, 2013 at 1:50:17 PM permalink
The newly passed Illinois "video gaming" law also has this issue because no win can be greater than $500. So with a five quarter bet the Royal only pays 400 for 1.
So what happens if you are playing on a $5 or $10 machine where a four of a kind would pay 625 or 1250?
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tringlomane
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March 25th, 2013 at 2:18:36 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

The newly passed Illinois "video gaming" law also has this issue because no win can be greater than $500. So with a five quarter bet the Royal only pays 400 for 1.
So what happens if you are playing on a $5 or $10 machine where a four of a kind would pay 625 or 1250?



Max bet is $2 (remember, these are restaurants/bars not riverboats) and when bets go over 5 quarters, they start upping things like straight flushes or quad 2s-4s to make 6, 7, and 8 quarter games pay slightly better than 5 quarters.

The best game I found for one random restaurant I visited was 7/5 Super Aces Bonus, but the paytable with a max bet looked like this:

5 Coins looked semi-normal
Royal 2000
Straight Flush 300
4 Aces 2000
4 2s-4s 400
4 5s-Ks 250
Full House 35
Flush 25
Straight 20
3 of a Kind 15
Two Pair 5
Jacks or Better 5

Return 97.92%

8 coins looked like:
Royal 2000
Straight Flush 2000
4 Aces 2000
4 2s-4s 720
4 5s-Ks 440
Full House 56
Flush 40
Straight 32
3 of a Kind 24
Two Pair 8
Jacks or Better 8

Return 97.98% (strategy is more difficult though with heavy straight flush)

Most games floated in the 95-96% range. Not surprising but still disappointing. :( Oregon does the same thing with inflating straight flushes in bar video poker because they have a $600 cap on wins and a $2 max bet.

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