AlanMendelson
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March 6th, 2013 at 12:13:26 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

Years ago I was playing poker at Caesars Windsor when a lady playing the bank of machines over from me hit 4 Aces with a kicker for $2000...when she hit that up popped the double up feature...this machine wasnt offering this feature on other winning hands so the lady wasn't sure what it was and pushed the YES button

once it dealt out the other hand she realized she did something she surely didnt want to do....called over a slots person who called in a supervisor...end of the story she was told that she had to play it out no turning back

she lost



I have some similar stories from Caesars in Vegas.

Asian player at high limit video poker did not know what the "double up?" meant when it came on the screen. He had just hit quad aces on $5 DDB for a $4,000 payoff (had he hit the kicker, there is no double up option). He thought "double up?" appearing on the screen meant the machine was asking him if he wanted to find out what double up was -- not the actual bet. When the "choice game" popped up in broken English he asked the rest of us what was going on. We explained it to him -- but we also called over a floor person who explained it to him. He not only misunderstood about the "double up?" question but we also think he misunderstood when when the floorperson said they could have the double up canceled so he could take his win. He played the double up -- and won -- getting $8.

Another time at Caesars a player said she didn't want to play the double up and they gave her the win.

the moral of the story: ask and they might cancel it.

At Caesars the double up is pretty much disabled on all of their machines. But there are a couple in the "small dome room" where it is still live.

Getting back to the first player -- the Asian man -- the double up option does not work on payoffs of $10.000 or more.
rudeboyoi
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March 6th, 2013 at 12:43:46 AM permalink
a few years ago my friend showed me a bank of machines at the venetian that had 1cent denomination (so 5c/hand at max credits) that also had a double-up feature. it was pretty fun getting free drinks, playing and doubling up at every oppurtunity regardless. i was pretty suprised to find such a low denomination in a strip casino and for only 5x not 100x credits at max-bet.
Mooseton
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March 6th, 2013 at 1:49:42 AM permalink
Thought this would be a good spot for this link:

Double-Up-Scam

Anybody ever hear what happened in this case?
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
etr102
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:33:56 AM permalink
I'm generally a craps player, and I've only started to play video poker. I've memorized the Wizard's 'Simple' strategy for Jacks Or Better and have been practicing/working on learning his 'Optimal' strategy. I was attracted to Video Poker due to the low house edge.

However, using the Wizard's free analyzer, I see that the house edge for 8/5 JoB is 2.8% (0.972984 return). With that kind of expected return, I might as well stick to craps.

(This particular VP terminal has no progressive jackpot and pays 4000 for a royal flush on 5 credit wager). Next time I'm there I'll look for a progressive.

Thanks for the suggestion. I cross the river to Detroit quite often to attend Red Wings and Tigers games, as well as to go to Mexican Town and Pizzapapalis (across the Monroe street from Greektown Casino). Greektown is the Detroit Casino I attend most often due to convenience, so next time I'm there I will look for the 9/6 machines.

I live in Windsor though, so Caesars Windsor will continue to be where I do the majority of my gambling.
Nareed
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:35:30 AM permalink
The 9/6 machines at 4 Queens all have the double up activated. I decided, after some discuccion here, to play it only for what I call "non-losing" hands. That is, when you hit a jacks or better and get "paid" one for one. But of course I'd play it now and then with 2 for one payments. Overall I did well enough.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
Ibeatyouraces
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March 6th, 2013 at 8:47:51 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
RogerKint
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March 8th, 2013 at 8:55:34 PM permalink
A couple hours ago, I saw a guy playing $5 3-play Super Aces. The only reason I was watching was because this play is slightly positive today. I estimated $150 per hour with crrrrrrrrrazy variance. Anyway, this guy hits 4 Dueces and I'm expecting him to press "No" to the double-up offer and proceed to hand pay as fast as possible. Nope, he hits "Yes"... and wins. No celebration; not even a flinch at the 5G he just won.
100% risk of ruin
tringlomane
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March 8th, 2013 at 10:03:57 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

Thought this would be a good spot for this link:

Double-Up-Scam

Anybody ever hear what happened in this case?



Dismissed as it should have been. http://www.volokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Nestor_Report-Recommendation.pdf

Quote: RogerKint

A couple hours ago, I saw a guy playing $5 3-play Super Aces. The only reason I was watching was because this play is slightly positive today. I estimated $150 per hour with crrrrrrrrrazy variance. Anyway, this guy hits 4 Dueces and I'm expecting him to press "No" to the double-up offer and proceed to hand pay as fast as possible. Nope, he hits "Yes"... and wins. No celebration; not even a flinch at the 5G he just won.



Sick life.

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