Most played Video Poker games JOB, BP, DB DDB, DW
Quote: IbeatyouracesFrom just my observations, I would say any of the bonus games prediminately DDB. JoB is the least played that I see.
why are the bonus games more popular?
You bet they do :)Quote: mrkeno2012Does anyone know if casinos track which video poker game is played the most?
I do not know but if I were to try to answer that question through observation, I would stroll through a casino and casually look over peoples shoulders or if the machines are empty, look to see what game was being played last on those multi-game machines.Quote: mrkeno2012Or does anyone have any knowledge of which one might be played the most?
I remember talking to a lady next to me about it (I was playing deuces wild at the time since it paid slightly better than DDB), and she said, "I used to play Deuces Wild, but hitting 4 Aces, I would be annoyed if I didn't get paid at least 800 for it." And I have had ppl next to me that have seemed disappointed it wasn't Aces w/a kicker, just Aces. Those people need to be punched...lol
To paraphrase Chico Esquivel, "JoB has been berry, berry good to you."Quote: IbeatyouracesI just hit another $4000 on $1 JoB held AQJ clubs got KT clubs.
Quote: midwestgbCongrats, I just had a 4K win on a 9-6 TDB machine myself, 4 Aces and Kicker. Love that game. Same place has it at 9-7 if you play the multihand game at a dollar. That game pays back at just a fraction under 100%, but I cannot work up the gumption to go $15/spin... ;-)
Nice hit. Of course, 9/7 is definitely better over the longterm. But whichever machine makes you hit Aces and a kicker the most is the most important thing obv. ;)
9/6 at dollars 1-hand, ER = -$0.0923 per hand = -$92.30/hr @ 1000 hands/hr
9/7 at dollars 3-hand, ER = -$0.063333 per deal = -$63.33/hr @ 1000 deals/hr
With 9/7, you would have to get used to holding 3 to a flush sometimes though. This strategy change makes the difference between 9/7 and 9/6 a larger than normal 1.43%.
And what casino is this? I don't think VPFree has any casino that points out full pay TDB only exists at triple play.
I don't blame you though not wanting to play $15/hand though. I am a not a big risk taker and I'm often playing nickels if it isn't a "full pay" machine.
<--- poor/cheap
Quote: tringlomaneWith 9/7, you would have to get used to holding 3 to a flush sometimes though.
3 to a flush is a frequent play in 9/6 Triple Double Bonus too.
Quote: JB3 to a flush is a frequent play in 9/6 Triple Double Bonus too.
I stand corrected. Shows how much TDB I play. :p
Quote: tringlomaneNice hit. Of course, 9/7 is definitely better over the longterm. But whichever machine makes you hit Aces and a kicker the most is the most important thing obv. ;)
9/6 at dollars 1-hand, ER = -$0.0923 per hand = -$92.30/hr @ 1000 hands/hr
9/7 at dollars 3-hand, ER = -$0.063333 per deal = -$63.33/hr @ 1000 deals/hr
With 9/7, you would have to get used to holding 3 to a flush sometimes though. This strategy change makes the difference between 9/7 and 9/6 a larger than normal 1.43%.
And what casino is this? I don't think VPFree has any casino that points out full pay TDB only exists at triple play.
I don't blame you though not wanting to play $15/hand though. I am a not a big risk taker and I'm often playing nickels if it isn't a "full pay" machine.
<--- poor/cheap
I appreciate this info from you guys, I need to do some better study of basic strategy on TDB... ;-)
The 9-7 multi-hand dollar game I have mentioned is at the new Hollywood facility in Kansas City, KS. When they first opened the place this Spring, you could even get the single-play dollar machines at 9-7 for TDB. That lasted only about two months... :-( ... Apparently a few of us got too lucky on those. They took them back to 9-6 for dollars, and 9-5 for quarters and below.
Quote: midwestgbI appreciate this info from you guys, I need to do some better study of basic strategy on TDB... ;-)
The 9-7 multi-hand dollar game I have mentioned is at the new Hollywood facility in Kansas City, KS. When they first opened the place this Spring, you could even get the single-play dollar machines at 9-7 for TDB. That lasted only about two months... :-( ... Apparently a few of us got too lucky on those. They took them back to 9-6 for dollars, and 9-5 for quarters and below.
I played TDB on an old CD-ROM game to practice, and there are plays that have you tossing out a paying pair in favor of 3 to a royal, unless it's aces, and other odd plays. I don't have it on a card or in any book I own. I only play it for pennies on a 50-play machine in a casino even though you get the awful paytables because it's fun but too volatile for me to play at a higher denomination. But it's the best way to get a high-paying hand in a contest. Jackpot or bust.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI'm wondering when quadruple triple double bonus is coming out?
It goes by a different name. TDB with Double Super Times Pay...haha
What's sick is that would be a +EV machine for 9/7 (if it actually existed) with a variance almost double TDB and ~10 times higher than JoB.
Quote: mrkeno2012Does anyone know if casinos track which video poker game is played the most? Or does anyone have any knowledge of which one might be played the most?
In the 600 Nevada restricted locations I surveyed, Double Double Bonus poker was the most often played by a huge margin. I believe Deuces Wild was the second most popular video poker game.
1.) People love going for those big payouts on the quads...
2.) People love getting a "wild" card to help them make payouts...
Obviously people don't understand math very well...
1.) Mostly 98.98% payback
2.) Lucky to be 99.0% payback
3.) Both games have a decidedly harder strategy than JoB...
As for myself, I usually choose A-C-E-$ Bonus Poker if offered...Aces&Faces if not.
What would it take to create a hybrid paytable, when deuces are used, and when they arent used? (like the Royal flush, but for all hands)
Quote: IbeatyouracesI'm wondering when quadruple triple double bonus is coming out?
I actually have stumbled across that WMS now has made a triple triple bonus variant. Yikes.
Full Pay looks like this:
Royal - 800
SF - 50
4 Aces w/2, 3, 4 - 800
4 2, 3, 4 w/Ace - 800
4 2, 3, 4 w/2, 3, 4 - 400
4 Aces - 160
4 2, 3, 4 w/5-K - 80
4 5-K - 50
Full House - 10
Flush - 6
Straight - 3
Three of a Kind - 2
Two Pair/Jacks or Better - 1
Quote: tringlomaneI actually have stumbled across that WMS now has made a triple triple bonus variant. Yikes.
Full Pay looks like this:
...
Interesting. That paytable returns more than Full-Pay Deuces Wild (if my analysis was correct). Do you have a link to information about this game?
If you use the video poker calculator for TDB with a weighted prize for Four 2s, 3s, 4s with any A,2,3,4 of 500 (2500 coins) and adjusting the ST, FL, and FH, you get 99.7601% return. However, with proper strategy, the game returns 100.7995%. Presumably the difference is that you would make holds such as 2A, 3A, 4A, 22A, 33A, and 44A since it is like holding 2 or 3 to a royal flush (and with 2A, 3A or 4A, there are two ways to fill in the "royal" unlike holding 2 to an actual royal such as TJ, JQ, etc). You might even hold a single 2, 3, or 4.
Quote: tringlomaneI actually have stumbled across that WMS now has made a triple triple bonus variant. Yikes.
Full Pay looks like this:
Royal - 800
SF - 50
4 Aces w/2, 3, 4 - 800
4 2, 3, 4 w/Ace - 800
4 2, 3, 4 w/2, 3, 4 - 400
4 Aces - 160
4 2, 3, 4 w/5-K - 80
4 5-K - 50
Full House - 10
Flush - 6
Straight - 3
Three of a Kind - 2
Two Pair/Jacks or Better - 1
I would be very interested if anyone has actually seen this paytable in a casino. I would be shocked if they actually offered that paytable for real money. For those of you that don't remember, when IGT released full pay deuces their math was wrong and they thought it was below 100%.
Quote: DRich
I would be very interested if anyone has actually seen this paytable in a casino. I would be shocked if they actually offered that paytable for real money. For those of you that don't remember, when IGT released full pay deuces their math was wrong and they thought it was below 100%.
I definitely was too young to remember that. :) And I guess they have left it that way due to popularity/tradition?
I doubt anyone has played these yet :(, but this paytable was part of the "My Poker" system set to be released by WMS. According to this press release, it's supposed to be placed in Station Casinos by the end of the year.
http://ir.wms.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=76037&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1708523&highlight=
I stumbled across the paytable posted above since they currently have this available to play for "play money" on this website: http://www.playerslife.com. Other >100% games they put up there were full pay Deuces, and full pay DB. Would be awesome if they kept these paytables on the gaming floor.
