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AZDuffman
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September 21st, 2021 at 6:37:52 AM permalink
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Or it is designed for the 80% or so of people who would never entertain owning a pickup. I'm not sure what you call serious work but demonstrations I've seen online show it can tow with the best of them. It's not for everyone but I think Elon and company go out of their way to do that.

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    Look at the sides of the bed. Do they look like they were made for reaching over or tying things down to? Putting a ladder rack or cap on it?

    Based on truck sales I do not think 80% would never entertain owning one. Maybe 40% would not. But yes, it is for people who are not into current trucks.
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    September 21st, 2021 at 7:06:15 AM permalink
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    I don't believe I've ever heard their pickup described as boring. The S was pretty unique when it came out , but has been copied to death.

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    Is that truck available yet? It's interesting for sure.

    I'm not up to date on electric cars, or cars in general nowadays. Most(not all, obviously) of the new cars all look the same to me nowadays.

    I agree some of model S's are cool. I was talking about the standard model type 3 I believe.
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    September 21st, 2021 at 8:30:07 AM permalink
    They were supposed to be available starting in November of this year, but delays blamed on Covid related supply chains have pushed it back to the Fall of 2022.
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    September 21st, 2021 at 9:16:21 AM permalink
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    Quote: billryan

    Or it is designed for the 80% or so of people who would never entertain owning a pickup. I'm not sure what you call serious work but demonstrations I've seen online show it can tow with the best of them. It's not for everyone but I think Elon and company go out of their way to do that.

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    Look at the sides of the bed. Do they look like they were made for reaching over or tying things down to? Putting a ladder rack or cap on it?

    Based on truck sales I do not think 80% would never entertain owning one. Maybe 40% would not. But yes, it is for people who are not into current trucks.
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    I am guessing that the majority of Pickup owners never tow anything and rarely put anything in the bed.
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    September 21st, 2021 at 12:16:13 PM permalink
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    Quote: billryan

    Or it is designed for the 80% or so of people who would never entertain owning a pickup. I'm not sure what you call serious work but demonstrations I've seen online show it can tow with the best of them. It's not for everyone but I think Elon and company go out of their way to do that.

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    Look at the sides of the bed. Do they look like they were made for reaching over or tying things down to? Putting a ladder rack or cap on it?

    Based on truck sales I do not think 80% would never entertain owning one. Maybe 40% would not. But yes, it is for people who are not into current trucks.
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    I am guessing that the majority of Pickup owners never tow anything and rarely put anything in the bed.
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    Define “rarely.” Lots of them tow. They might just load the bed a few times a year but those who know to them it is important. Trucks also still have brand loyalty. Ford guys do not just switch.
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    September 21st, 2021 at 1:16:24 PM permalink
    The Tesla is supposed to out tow anything in its class. There are videos of it towing boats, trailers, ect
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    September 21st, 2021 at 1:19:19 PM permalink
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    Or it is designed for the 80% or so of people who would never entertain owning a pickup. I'm not sure what you call serious work but demonstrations I've seen online show it can tow with the best of them. It's not for everyone but I think Elon and company go out of their way to do that.

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    Look at the sides of the bed. Do they look like they were made for reaching over or tying things down to? Putting a ladder rack or cap on it?

    Based on truck sales I do not think 80% would never entertain owning one. Maybe 40% would not. But yes, it is for people who are not into current trucks.
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    I am guessing that the majority of Pickup owners never tow anything and rarely put anything in the bed.
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    Define “rarely.” Lots of them tow. They might just load the bed a few times a year but those who know to them it is important. Trucks also still have brand loyalty. Ford guys do not just switch.
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    To me rarely would be that most pickup drivers probably only use the bed of the truck 5 times a year.
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    September 22nd, 2021 at 2:48:09 AM permalink
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    To me rarely would be that most pickup drivers probably only use the bed of the truck 5 times a year.

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    The thing is, that is still what they buy it for. It is the same thing on the range of an EV. EV proponents say that I only "need" to go more than 250 miles a day "a couple times a year." But the fact that I do need that range from time to time means I cannot easily make do with an EV.

    I am currently wondering if I should get that little Hyundai pickup for my next vehicle instead of a Tuscon. A couple times a year I need to get something big at Home Depot or elsewhere that would use the bed. So the fact that the bed can carry a 4x8 is a major factor there. If it did not do that I would not even consider it.

    Most cars have only 1 person in them most of the time, yet we still buy cars that hold 4-5 people. Why? Because sometimes you need the extra seats.
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    September 22nd, 2021 at 3:57:44 AM permalink
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    I am currently wondering if I should get that little Hyundai pickup for my next vehicle instead of a Tuscon. A couple times a year I need to get something big at Home Depot or elsewhere that would use the bed. So the fact that the bed can carry a 4x8 is a major factor there. If it did not do that I would not even consider it.

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    Many of the home improvement stores I see will rent you a pickup truck for an hour for $20, so you can get your larger occasional purchases home.

    I believe UHAUL still offers cargo vans and pickups for $20/day + mileage, but it's less convenient.

    Not saying these are the best options, but they are options if you're more focused on the other 358 days a year when a truck may be less convenient.
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    September 22nd, 2021 at 4:26:46 AM permalink
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    Many of the home improvement stores I see will rent you a pickup truck for an hour for $20, so you can get your larger occasional purchases home.

    I believe UHAUL still offers cargo vans and pickups for $20/day + mileage, but it's less convenient.

    Not saying these are the best options, but they are options if you're more focused on the other 358 days a year when a truck may be less convenient.

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    I have seen that at THD. Uhaul will kill you on mileage charges. Thing is it is not always THD. Not always even a store. My brother saves his leaves for me to dump in my garden to compost. As does his neighbor. So I fill the back of my SUV. I know scrappers who will see an old washing machine in the trash and load it up. People who tow need it to tow. Nobody is going to go thru the hassles of renting for these kind of things. Meanwhile, the truck is not "less convenient" for most people. What you spend on extra gas would equal 1-2 rentals that you describe, if that.
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