PokerGrinder
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:56:43 PM permalink
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I think the Longhorn deserves praise. Sounds like they realized they made an error but still chose to honor the results. It is quite easy to imagine it going another way.


They tried to not pay, they were forced by gaming.
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DRich
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March 11th, 2021 at 6:53:15 AM permalink
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They tried to not pay, they were forced by gaming.



Exactly, that is the reason one should always gamble in regulated jurisdictions. No way would they have paid if this was an oversees online operation.
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March 11th, 2021 at 7:37:36 AM permalink
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Exactly, that is the reason one should always gamble in regulated jurisdictions. No way would they have paid if this was an oversees online operation.

Not true.. Casino-On-Net (Now Casino 888, I believe, but I'm not sure exactly what the deal is with all that) paid over a Million dollars on their 007 roulette Promo. And look at them now, one of the biggest/best around who have now entered into the US regulated market. I don't think they banned anyone for that promo either(?,) I know others and I wasn't banned. Unfortunately, I had to stop using them once they stopped catering to the US market.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MDawg
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March 11th, 2021 at 8:10:29 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Exactly, that is the reason one should always gamble in regulated jurisdictions. No way would they have paid if this was an oversees online operation.



Sometimes the publicity is worth the loss. For example the mattress millionaire in Texas who hedges his promotions with SuperBowl bets. Win or lose - he covers the cost of his annual promotion. (Not to be confused with Alan Erlick from Theroux's LV documentary, the Canadian mattress king who is now allegedly a broke Uber driver.)

If the word gets out that so and so owner of a casino booted a high roller for winning too much, that's not going to look good. I've seen it happen both ways - there is a well known story about a shoeless homeless "bandit" who took his social security check to over a million playing blackjack at a Steve Wynn casino, and Wynn let him keep playing, booting him finally only because the guy was too rude and constantly swearing loudly at his dealers. The story did not have a happy ending - for the player. But in that case, the story that was circulated was that Wynn let the guy keep playing - did not cut him off for winning, which was true. By the time Weinberg cut him off the guy had lost most everything.

When Venetian first opened the stories that circulated were that everyone was winning at the Baccarat tables - which there were more than a few high rollers who were clocking them for serious money, and the stories that circulated about how people were winning big and no one was cut off kept the place packed.
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March 11th, 2021 at 5:13:14 PM permalink
Some strange contrasts from Longhorn:
They have one of the best paycheck cashing promotions in the valley at $25 (if there is anything better, I haven't seen it). And the worst new player promotion; literally a bag of cookies.

Looking at their website, one monthly promotions link brings up March, another one brings up September. March promotion is for $500 to $1000 in freeplay. September is for $4 to $40 in freeplay. Quite a bit of a difference.

The "Double Jackpot" is still there, but exclusively a "Doubly Royal" (according to their website). I remember those being common in bars around 2010 - 2014 or so, but not seeing them as much anymore. Pretty easy to use wizardofodds to see that it should add close to 2% to the total return (on a $1.25 bet). They have 98.9% machines, plus 0.2% back in points, so there is clearly still a player advantage available.

I never got my certificate or t-shirt for the monster burger. I even had a three-egg omelet with it as well. The omelet was 1,000 points. I like the idea of menu items that can only be purchased with points.
DRich
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March 11th, 2021 at 6:44:41 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

Some strange contrasts from Longhorn:
They have one of the best paycheck cashing promotions in the valley at $25 (if there is anything better, I haven't seen it). And the worst new player promotion; literally a bag of cookies.

Looking at their website, one monthly promotions link brings up March, another one brings up September. March promotion is for $500 to $1000 in freeplay. September is for $4 to $40 in freeplay. Quite a bit of a difference.

The "Double Jackpot" is still there, but exclusively a "Doubly Royal" (according to their website). I remember those being common in bars around 2010 - 2014 or so, but not seeing them as much anymore. Pretty easy to use wizardofodds to see that it should add close to 2% to the total return (on a $1.25 bet). They have 98.9% machines, plus 0.2% back in points, so there is clearly still a player advantage available.

I never got my certificate or t-shirt for the monster burger. I even had a three-egg omelet with it as well. The omelet was 1,000 points. I like the idea of menu items that can only be purchased with points.



I can never pass up the $4 chicken fried steak. It is a great greasy spoon restaurant
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IndyJeffrey
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March 11th, 2021 at 8:01:12 PM permalink
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If you achieve any top prize in slots, a royal flush, or at least $500 or more in keno, we will double the top prize up to $1000 in free play.



I'm no AP, but one of those thing seems to be much easier than the others. I love reading threads like these. Thanks!
smoothgrh
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March 11th, 2021 at 11:04:39 PM permalink
Thanks for the news from the Longhorn!

I'm glad that place is still getting some (self-inflincted) love after they removed their famed blackjack tables.
TomG
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March 12th, 2021 at 6:16:45 AM permalink
Longhorn was one of about three places I ever got heat for blackjack. Good rules, good penetration, double on three cards, bj in the suit of the day paid an extra $5, daily tournaments that paid over 100% of entry fees. Spread 2 to 100 and eventually said I couldn't play cards there anymore. I can usually hide that type of stuff on single or double deck (leave after a max bet), much harder on six, because the bigger bets can stay out there a lot longer.

Would usually go there after trying a 3 to 100 spread at Alamo single deck. At one time they had a daily free poker tournament.
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March 12th, 2021 at 9:17:39 PM permalink
This reminds me of around fifteen years ago, Suncoast had a promo where they were paying 2-1 on blackjacks. They let you play a maximum of two spots, so it was me, the Wizard, and the Wizard's wife, taking up 6 of the 7 spots at one of the tables, betting the max on each hand. After maybe 15-20 minutes the floorperson came over to tell us they were canceling the promotion. I think we actually lost money, since we got quite a bit fewer than the expected number of naturals, but it was still fun.

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