MGM increases resorts fee March 1 2018
Bellagio -- $39
Aria -- $39
Vdara -- $39
Mandalay Bay/Delano -- $37
The Mirage -- $37
The Signature at MGM Grand --$37
MGM Grand -- $37
New York, New York -- $37
Monte Carlo -- $37
Luxor -- $35
Excalibur -- $35
Circus, Circus -- $30
Quote: VegasriderAnd you get taxed on top?
Bellagio -- $39
Aria -- $39
Vdara -- $39
Mandalay Bay/Delano -- $37
The Mirage -- $37
The Signature at MGM Grand --$37
MGM Grand -- $37
New York, New York -- $37
Monte Carlo -- $37
Luxor -- $35
Excalibur -- $35
Circus, Circus -- $30
All about that Raiders Stadium
Quote: GlenGAll about that Raiders Stadium
Resort Fee's are a tax?
Quote: Vegasrider
Circus, Circus -- $30
Or did they "add" something into the list of meaningless things you get for the resort fee?
I refuse to pay a fee to park a rental car in a city I have to pay to fly into.
Nevermore.
Quote: MrVI refuse to pay a fee for services I won't use.
I refuse to pay a fee to park a rental car in a city I have to pay to fly into.
Nevermore.
That's why I created a thread about "Why Vegas" as it seems it's not as great as it use to be. Forgot that you now have to pay to park in many of the strip casino's as well. Not sure what the resort fees are for some of the big casinos here in Reno, but I'm sure it's much less to none, and free parking.
Quote: VegasriderThat's why I created a thread about "Why Vegas" as it seems it's not as great as it use to be. Forgot that you now have to pay to park in many of the strip casino's as well. Not sure what the resort fees are for some of the big casinos here in Reno, but I'm sure it's much less to none, and free parking.
Let's work on those airfares, and then I'll talk Reno! Even if I end up having to pay Resort Fees, still much cheaper for me to go to Vegas as an overall trip.
Resort fees I thought, were a way to AVOID a tax. Although their primary purpose is to allow a casino to get a First Page listing on any search engine using a low room price by calling it a Resort Fee rather than part of the room charges, it gets different treatment under the Nevada tax laws that take a very large bite out of all room rates.Quote: NokTangResort Fee's are a tax?
We all hate Resort Fees we always will. Too much confusion and too much deception and too much of this it room is comped but the fee is still levied nonsense unless you happen to have a Super Duper Walk on Water Card and it is still currently valid and our computer system isn't sneezing when you check out.
But what can you do? They are here to stay.
Agree with the sentiments about resort fees adding up but still being less than flying to Reno to avoid resort fees and Big Strip gawkers.
Quote: mcallister3200Mind boggling and downright abusive that parking is not included in a $40/night resort fee. What exactly are you getting? It’s a little surprising they’re being legally allowed to even use the word resort as if you’re getting anything for the fee, extremely deceptive and just dishonest practice. Should just be called “fee.” It’s been an MGM corporate policy for my adult life to never put anything forward that a customer could perceive as providing value, so whatever.
What exactly are you getting?
I don't know, but would you rather pay a Resort Fee at or just shy of $40 at one of those properties or the Resort Fee of $19.99 at the Ellis Island Super 8? Would the latter resort fee imply that the Ellis Island Super 8 is no less than half of the resort that the MGM properties are? I've spoken at-length about what this, "Resort Fee," includes before, so I'll quote from myself:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-vegas-casinos/ellis-island/29186-now-thats-ridiculous-ellis-island-resort-fee/#post599569
Quote:Wireless Internet Access
Discounted Shuttle to the Airport
Ellis Island Breakfast
Heated pool and spa
Free Truck/bus parking
Check in time: 3pm
Answers:
-I'll use my phone as a hotspot.
-I'm driving, taking a cab, not heading to the airport from here...etc
-I'll get breakfast elsewhere.
-I don't want to use them.
-I don't have a truck or bus.
-Um...as opposed to what other time?
Anyway, the things that they list as part of the, "Resort Fee," alternate between things commonly offered for free at other Super 8's, or a few which are just straight-up franchise requirements. Wireless Internet is an excellent example, because a Super 8 MUST offer complimentary Internet access for guests, so that literally CANNOT technically be part of a resort fee.
Another thing is the, "Ellis Island Breakfast." Granted, I don't know what that might consist of, but what I do know is that Super 8's MUST provide a free Continental Breakfast, so what does the resort fee have to do with that?
While Super 8's are not required to have a pool, I've certainly never heard of one in which a guest must pay extra in order to access the pool if they do.
As far as being an insult to one's intelligence goes, I think the Ellis Island Super 8 Resort Fee is the more egregious of the two.
Super 8---Resort Fee...should those two terms even be able to exist in the same sentence?
Quote: RogerKintOften times, one can get a room downtown for less than the resort fees, alone, on the strip. When you drive up Las Vegas Blvd, it's still completely going off. Some people say the tipping point will come but will it? LV is a full-on global (if the earth was round) destination.
Quote: Wes Rand, Las Vegas Review Journal, February 27
Rates as of March 1
$39 - Bellagio, Vdara, Aria, Encore, Wynn, Four Seasons, Mandarin Oriental, Palazzo, Venetian, Nobu, Caesar's Cosmopolitan, Green Valley Ranch, Red Rock
$37 - Paris, Planet Hollywood, Cromwell, Delano, MGM Grand, Mirage, Signature@MGM, Mandalay Bat, Monte Carlo, NYNY
$35 - Luxor, Excalibur, Tropicana, Trump, Linq, Ballys, Harrah's, Flamingo, TI
$33 - Hard Rock
$32 - SLS
$30 - Rio, Circus Circus
$29.50 - GN
$29 - Hooters
$25.99 - Palace Station
$23 - Downtown Grand
$20.99 - Gold Coast, Suncoast, Silver Sevens, Orleans
$19.99 - Aliante, Sam's Torn, Ellis Island
$14.95 - El Cortez
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Quote: RogerKintOften times, one can get a room downtown for less than the resort fees, alone, on the strip. When you drive up Las Vegas Blvd, it's still completely going off. Some people say the tipping point will come but will it? LV is a full-on global (if the earth was round) destination.
Las Vegas is a convenient place to hold conventions. There are lots of convention centers, plenty of hotel rooms, and it doesn’t hurt it has the best entertainment in the world (shows, gambling, and hookers). That alone will bring in plenty of customers. Not to mention the people who go there specifically to gamble, which I think is a dying breed because there are casinos practically everywhere. And the people who go there to party don’t care (AFAIK) about resort fees, parking fees, 6:5 BJ, etc.
Quote: VegasriderThat's why I created a thread about "Why Vegas" as it seems it's not as great as it use to be. Forgot that you now have to pay to park in many of the strip casino's as well. Not sure what the resort fees are for some of the big casinos here in Reno, but I'm sure it's much less to none, and free parking.
I'll be looking at Reno next visit. Heck, I'd love to market the place if I could find a way to make a buck.
- Eldorado / Silver Legacy 20.43
- Grand Sierra $29.95
- Harrahs' $14
- Nugget $22.70
- Peppermill / Atlantis $28.25
- Sands $9.99
- Plaza $13.62
Some also charge a "Tourism Fee" at $2/$3 night.
So Reno is not immune.
Quote: boymimboResort Fees exist in Reno as well:
So Reno is not immune.
True but free parking. Plus flying in and out of Reno is a breeze. Never long lines at security and you don't have to walk a mile. Rental car counter us 20 feet from baggage claim and the cars are ust another 150 feet away. May take you another 30-45 minutes in Vegas.
Fares are cheap, you just have to book early. Jet Blue from JFK is $250 RT in the past, my friend has gotten them for less as well. Frontier and SW are other options but I don't know where you guys would be flying in from so maybe the fares are very expensive.
Quote: VegasriderTrue but free parking. Plus flying in and out of Reno is a breeze. Never long lines at security and you don't have to walk a mile. Rental car counter us 20 feet from baggage claim and the cars are ust another 150 feet away. May take you another 30-45 minutes in Vegas.
Fares are cheap, you just have to book early. Jet Blue from JFK is $250 RT in the past, my friend has gotten them for less as well. Frontier and SW are other options but I don't know where you guys would be flying in from so maybe the fares are very expensive.
True. But with Reno you can only connect to hubs, so for most people, you have to fly through: San Francisco, Phoenix, Houston, Denver, Salt Lake, Minneapolis, and O'Hare. Directs I imagine from one of those hubs would be more expensive than connecting. The JFK and O'Hares flight are direct, but you arrive late at night and have to take a red-eye to return (on JetBlue and American).
Whereas every city pretty much as a direct to LAS flight running multiple times a day. From the New York area you have 18 different options to fly to LAS directly and 11 non red-eye returns to get you back home (Delta, American, JetBlue running out of JFK, United out of EWR).
But you are right about the walking and the rental car and the security at Reno, but those are all negated through a connection (walking, losing your luggage, time waiting for plane, chance of missed connection) or a crappy flight time.
Reno on the other hand, I agree you are most likely connecting thru another city unless you're flying in from DEN, SLC, PHX,LAX, or some other west coast city. Yes, JFK Jet Blue is a redeye on the way back to the east coast, probably why it's so cheap.
Unless you're into outdoors, the only thing to do in Reno is to go to the casinos. Not much A entertainment around here. But again, betting $25 a hand iup here you will be treated as royalty, you'll receive the best of everything at the best properties where in Vegas, it might take a black chip player to receive the best at the elite properties
Rates as of March 1
$35 - Luxor, Excalibur, Tropicana, Trump, Linq, Ballys, Harrah's, Flamingo, TI
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How can Trump charge a resorts fee? There isn't a casino?? I seriously doubt the President is aware one of his properties/branded is scamming with a "Resort Fee".
Quote: VegasriderYes, when it comes to nonstop flights, there isn't any airport better than LAS. ... Unless you're into outdoors, the only thing to do in Reno is to go to the casinos ... But again, betting $25 a hand iup here you will be treated as royalty, you'll receive the best of everything at the best properties where in Vegas, it might take a black chip player to receive the best at the elite properties
Agreed LV has great air connections to most other airport hubs. But, for east-coasters, the 3-hour time difference may leave your (old, tired) body telling yourself it feels like midnight when the local clocks say it's only 9 pm. Plus, the red-eye return flights are rough on personal sleep schedules.
So, Reno treats green-chip players like royalty? Probably so, but -- as also noted -- much more difficult to fly into Reno except for select (mostly western) cities. What to do? Oh, what to do?
If you are an east-coaster, why not fly into New Orleans? Many good flight connections and much easier to accommodate a 1-hour time shift. Rent a car and drive about 1.5 hours to Biloxi (via Interstate). Or, drive Hwy 90 along the Mississippi coast for some spectacular southern scenery. I betcha Biloxi casinos are every bit as generous to green-chip players as the hard-to-get-to Reno, but with the same small-town feel. Also, there is a lot to do around Biloxi, including the kids' casino-equivalent arcade-game resort at Margaritaville. In spite of the fact I am NOT a green-chip player, Biloxi casinos give me more free room nights than I can use, plus (to me) reasonable food and gaming offers. Many casinos with $5 minimum bets (and some even lower!), free parking, and NONE of the crappy customer service LV gamblers constantly harp about. (True, there are resort fees -- and taxes -- if your room is not fully comped). Visit, gamble, and watch the fully-comped free-room offers flood your mailbox and email. What's not to like?
When an airline offers a rate, it's a REQUIREMENT that it's at least POSSIBLE to fly at that rate. They can do BS like spirit and charge for a carry-on....but you can still take the flight at the price offered.
I would assume hosts can waive resort fees.
Quote: GlenGAs far as parking goes, there are multiple ways to get free parking.
I would assume hosts can waive resort fees.
You can probably invest in your check in clerk too - a good sized tip may make that disappear.
Had a fun time getting into an MGM property today. Had my mlife reservation printed and on my phone and they couldn't find it. They spend 40 minutes straightening it out and they said they had to do a new one from scratch and gave my guest and I dinner buffets for compensation. I asked her how much she was charging me for the room to ensure they did it right, and she quoted a number $360 more than it should have been. Turns out that she had the number wrong. Reservations comped all four nights (I had three comped) so all I was paying was the resort fee. When she discovered the mistake she said that she should call reservations to fix it. I pulled $20 out of my wallet, gave it to her and said, "please don't." She looked at me and said, "you've waited long enough.". And off I went.
Tax Recovery Charges and Service Fees: $162.51
That price is not for the room, just taxes and fees. The MGM $35 a night isn't sounding bad.
Quote: DRichI was in the process of booking a room for one night in St. Louis and saw the largest fees ever:
Tax Recovery Charges and Service Fees: $162.51
That price is not for the room, just taxes and fees. The MGM $35 a night isn't sounding bad.
Egads.
"A daily resort fee of $32.00 plus applicable tax is added to all room reservations upon check-in."
1 Run of House Room 1 night $19.99
Taxes: $2.67
Room Subtotal: $22.66
Resort Fee & Tax: $36.28
Total: $58.95
Quote: VenthusI was curious what Circus Circus gave you for 30$ so I just took a peek at their website and it actually claims to be a *32$* resort fee there.
"A daily resort fee of $32.00 plus applicable tax is added to all room reservations upon check-in."
1 Run of House Room 1 night $19.99
Taxes: $2.67
Room Subtotal: $22.66
Resort Fee & Tax: $36.28
Total: $58.95
Picture what $60 would get you in NYC or Miami.
Quote: VenthusI was curious what Circus Circus gave you for 30$ so I just took a peek at their website and it actually claims to be a *32$* resort fee there.
"A daily resort fee of $32.00 plus applicable tax is added to all room reservations upon check-in."
1 Run of House Room 1 night $19.99
Taxes: $2.67
Room Subtotal: $22.66
Resort Fee & Tax: $36.28
Total: $58.95
Basic WiFi is included along with the amusement park and the joy of getting one's feet rolled over by a million strollers.
CC is a property that needs to start charging for parking for non hotel guests. The parking situation is horrific there on weekends particularly when they do their holiday events.
Effing insane.
I'm sure the other high end resorts will follow suit shortly.
Quote: dglscorriganThey are sheep, born to be fleeced.
The point is that everyone should know to factor in the pricing with the resort fees when booking. All websites state the resort fees so you include it in the all-in cost. Major tourist centers charge it. Other localities charge a separate hotel tax from sales tax that normally isn't shown when booking but is in the finer print.
There's no fleecing going on at all if you know how much you are going to pay for the room. I always check for extra pricing and include the all-in cost (including parking) for hotel stays.
It's the same thing when you leave. Always check your folio for charges you didn't incur or feel like should have been voided. I had to do that today when checking out of MGM - they did not take off the free buffets. So a trip to the front desk had that $90 charge removed.
Ill make a prediction. In 2 years, 90% of the tables in vegas will be 3-2 H17 DAS LS or 3-2 H17 DAS. Parking fees will be abolished, as well as resort fees. Management will eventually wise up. My 1000 flyers that will be spread all over town should help as well in the process.
Quote: ZenKinGMust be all those pesky card counters destroying their bottom line.(sarcasm)
Ill make a prediction. In 2 years, 90% of the tables in vegas will be 3-2 H17 DAS LS or 3-2 H17 DAS. Parking fees will be abolished, as well as resort fees. Management will eventually wise up. My 1000 flyers that will be spread all over town should help as well in the process.
As long as people like you keep coming and playing and paying everything is there to stay. No different than chargung-bag fees that most airlines applies except for SW. Checking your folio at checkout is basic hotel 101 icommon sense.
Quote: ZenKinG
Ill make a prediction. In 2 years, 90% of the tables in vegas will be 3-2 H17 DAS LS or 3-2 H17 DAS. Parking fees will be abolished, as well as resort fees. Management will eventually wise up. My 1000 flyers that will be spread all over town should help as well in the process.
I predict that you are wrong.
Quote: ZenKinGMust be all those pesky card counters destroying their bottom line.(sarcasm)
Ill make a prediction. In 2 years, 90% of the tables in vegas will be 3-2 H17 DAS LS or 3-2 H17 DAS. Parking fees will be abolished, as well as resort fees. Management will eventually wise up. My 1000 flyers that will be spread all over town should help as well in the process.
While you are at it can you predict Lori Grenier will leave her husband for me?
Out of all the girls to choose from why would anyone want...Oh, NVM she is really rich. I'm surprised to find out shes only worth about $100 Million.Quote: AZDuffmanWhile you are at it can you predict Lori Grenier will leave her husband for me?
Quote: AxelWolfOut of all the girls to choose from why would anyone want...Oh, NVM she is really rich. I'm surprised to find out shes only worth about $100 Million.
Although she is married, I am targeting Nancy Walton. She only lives about two miles from me and at $6 Billion I would be willing to walk to her house.
