Yea Yea Yea....
The new tag line for Vegas, or AC should be ... ' Welcome to Vegas/AC, All Vices Accepted!'
.....if you only knew....!
It could be because the casinos are really hospice facilities in disguise.
Actually, that would be a better description of a bingo parlor. You get a seat when the old fart sitting in it dies of old age or lung cancer that is caused by all the smoke inside.
Shows and concerts. For example, next weekend, I will be in Vegas. I love comedy. I can see Seinfeld, Bill Maher, Andrew Dice Clay, Tom Green, Rich Little, and have a choice of numerous comedy clubs. Foo Fighters are in town. For shows, I have the Cirque sets for high end. Elton John is playing. The Golden Knights are playing a Canadian team next Friday night. In Reno, you might get a headliner at the Atlantis or Silver Legacy but it's rare. I always take in a show in Vegas.
The strip is safe. I can walk (or take a monorail/Uber) from Mandalay Bay to the Wynn (2+ miles) and have 20 different (yet like, I know) different casino experiences from the top end to the bottom end of the strip. Downtown Reno is rundown. I can take the Deuce downtown for the Fremont Street Experience. Then I can leave.
The nightlife is very strong, if you like clubs and watching young women in tight clothing (or less), then you will have a blast. Most casinos have a good nightclub.
Food is eons better, as you can pick restaurants from world-class chefs. Or you can eat at Ellis Island. Or you can do both. You don't get that in Reno. Food is a major reason why I enjoy Vegas.
The casino hotels are icons. Most of the pools are better. It's hotter earlier.
Flights are cheaper in general, though Reno is a two hour drive for me.
The tradeoff is that the gambling on the strip generally stinks. But you can play Pai Gow (same rules), play 3:2 blackjacks (higher limits), and all of your favorite table games. You can take a 5 minute walk to Ellis Island to get your 99.5% VP at all denominations. Downtown offers good VP as well, or you take the free shuttle from the Fashion mall to Red Rock or a bus from CZR to the Palms. So there are games if you know where to look.
The high resort fees, the parking fees, and the weak comps from the strip casinos all fuel the masochist in me; coupled to the cost of air fare, a rental car and a place to stay and you can see the new Las Vegas secret to success.
We all know masochism and casino gambling go hand in hand.
I stayed at the Legacy last week. It was about $70 a night, plus a $20 resort fee, and a $3 Reno "Tourism Surcharge". Rental car was 30 bucks.
I liked where I stayed. It was confusing to me at first how the Eldorado, Circus, and Legacy are all connected. I had trouble at first figuring out which casino I was in at any given moment.
Regular flights out of Fresno were expensive, but there was usually a bargain if you book a week in advance. Like $350 round trip. Not bad at all. But it was my first trip to Reno and I thought it would be fun to take the train. That was a mistake, very uncomfortable.
I posted a short trip report elsewhere. Not much detail.
Oh ghad, I'm going to agree with MWM!!!
In essence, vegas has grown bigger than just a place to gamble. There's an electric feeling in the air (for tourists) with all of the massive hotels and casinos, all of the glitz and glamour, and it's just something you don't get in other gambling venues that offer more value but are smaller and less attractive. There's something about knowing you're in a town with HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of other visitors all looking to have fun and a good time.
Another words... It's Vegas, baby!
A lot of the young crowd goes there just for the music and dancing.
I went to Reno to see if it might be a viable place for me to grow old. But I'm thinking, what happens if it falls apart even more in another 10-20 years and I'm stuck there with lousy gambling opportunities, and a walker. It just can't hold up to Vegas, and I don't think Vegas will allow itself to die. Vegas will fight to stay alive no matter how the country changes. It will reinvent itself or do whatever it's got to do to stay, Vegas.
Still, I do want to return to Reno, but this time stay longer and get a better look. There was a charm to it.
The one time I went to Laughlin the patrons were so old and rickety that I assumed the casinos gave out comped Depends and Ensure instead of buffet passes.
Mickey had some good stories about Laughlin.
But I'm asking the members on this forum who are primarily gamblers, not tourist, many who are AP's, who are expecting to receive free food and lodging, and trying to win. Why Vegas? Again, unless you like to play live poker, or you are really a high roller who has a host who will take care of you, , I think you may have better success gambling in Reno and certainly stretch your dollar farther with the casinos.
Rooms were cheap, food was truly cheap, and alcohol was free.
Then casinos realized that everything could be used to extract a profit, including parking.
People say Vegas has great food. I respectfully disagree. Vegas foods masks as good food, but itís mostly gimmicks and celebrity chefs exploiting their name recognition with mediocre but overpriced food. Instead of just chocolate cake, the exact same cake is now Midnight Gonache Butter Creme Mudslide Indulgence Cake by World renown chef Ramone at $25 a slice for a limited offering, please order in advance (so we can microwave the center to make it warm and faux fresh and then spread icing on it).
Case in point are the Vegas buffets. Here in Texas, we have the new redesigned Golden Corals that that are on par with most of the Vegas buffets. Only difference is they cost $10. The same buffet in Vegas would be about $30.
Most of the more expensive Vegas buffets that are highly rated, like at the Wynn, Cosmo, Venetian, etc, are huge rip offs, and the food is marginal.
Golden Coral should do a stunt where they move in a Golden Coral buffet to a LV casino and tell people that itís a high end buffet that costs $40. No one would be able to tell the difference.
And then the gambling has all gone downhill, with 6:5 BJ, low odds craps, etc. Casinos no longer compete on gambling promotions. Many casinos, like the Strat used to advertise 100x odds and 100% return slots. Double deck BJ with stand on 17 rules were normal. Nowadays, not even the Casino Royale has 100x odds.
I really see no reason to go to Vegas nowadays.
I really see no reason to go to Vegas nowadays.
Exactly, I think for the average gambler, even for an AP, it's getting tougher.
I will disagree with you on the Buffet's. You cannot compare the Golden Corral with the buffet at the Wynn or Bellagio, or other 5 star resorts. I do agree that there are many average buffets in Vegas & even here in Reno where the Golden Corral is better.
As a frequent flyer, I can arrive at the airport 30 minutes before my flight, and I can be at my gate in under 10 minutes. Never had to wait more than 3 minutes going through security. Try doing that at Mccarran.