Seriouslyfunny
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April 25th, 2015 at 4:27:42 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Care to elaborate?



Getting even is a gift. Just personal and my friends, even is good for the trip is all. What happens so many times after even can be worse then what happened just before the 'even'. Nothing more than that.
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April 25th, 2015 at 4:27:58 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Thirty-two.



Now I'm even more confused.
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April 25th, 2015 at 4:34:54 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Now I'm even more confused.



Look up Rule 14 and then notice how many posts Seriouslyfunny has made in the two days since he joined this board.
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April 25th, 2015 at 4:57:23 PM permalink
Even? You mean you won $9K in the last
couple of days. I'd get a little ahead and
stop. Enjoy the accomplishment.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 25th, 2015 at 4:58:35 PM permalink
Congrats on the comeback Ace! Do you have a pressing strategy when winning consecutive hands, or do you flat bet $200 each time?

What if you hit the $10k win goal 30 minutes after dinner? Will you simply quit? It is sort of the anti-GN problem from a few days ago. Here's hoping your up so much that you actually have to consider what to do if you quit!
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:02:09 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Even? You mean you won $9K in the last
couple of days. I'd get a little ahead and
stop. Enjoy the accomplishment.



Yes even means the comeback for what I was down this trip is complete

Now, I am still down 6500 for the year...
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:02:36 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Congrats on the comeback Ace! Do you have a pressing strategy when winning consecutive hands, or do you flat bet $200 each time?

What if you hit the $10k win goal 30 minutes after dinner? Will you simply quit? It is sort of the anti-GN problem from a few days ago. Here's hoping your up so much that you actually have to consider what to do if you quit!




Yeah I will press up between 300 and 500
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:29:29 PM permalink
What is so magical about this number, "EVEN"?

I REALLY don't get this at all. This obsession with trip results seems to ruin the enjoyment for even amateur gamblers. Never mind that I have seen obsession with trip results also destroy otherwise (potentially) winning poker players.

If you're Ace with a bankroll of, say, $10,000 -- with plenty of financial assets not at risk -- what on earth difference does it make if the trip is -1,000 or +1,000, if you're there to have fun?

Yes, winning is more fun than losing, but isn't the real fun playing? Playing, and eating, and socializing, and being entertained? Enjoying the luxury of the resort and the alluring mix of people?

If money is the primary concern, playing blackjack at a negative expectation would be a really dumb way to try to make money -- not to mention the opportunity cost of not working at your high-paying non-gambling job instead.

So to end this rant I really don't understand why recreational gamblers even keep TRACK of their trip results, much less use them as the footer of every post they make in a trip report.

I would be much more interested in "entertainment/recreational" results than numbers.

It just seems to me that 99% of recreational gamblers define whether they have fun by whether they're winning or losing. That makes no sense to me.
EvenBob
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:39:40 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

What is so magical about this number, "EVEN"? I REALLY don't get this at all. .



Sure you do.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:53:22 PM permalink
EVEN.... it is so simple, you plan a trip to Vegas to have fun, maybe make a little money and be entertained. If you can do all of that for a few days and not cost you any money.... Then EVEN is the best place to be.
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April 25th, 2015 at 5:54:31 PM permalink
And if you gain some great stories and memories, EVEN = AHEAD.
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April 25th, 2015 at 6:19:10 PM permalink
Ask yourself how many trips can you take breaking even or ahead, and then ask yourself how many trips you can take being down.

Another thing, not speaking for ace but for myself I like to not spend a dime of my own money and have casinos give me RFB.
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April 25th, 2015 at 6:24:33 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Quote: Greasyjohn

Quote: aceofspades

EVEN!



In all my blackjack playing I've never had a comeback like this. On every large loss I can think of it just got worse, never better. Your recovery is stunning. Congratulations!!!




Thanks - it took a lot of patience and work



When I play it's work and I'm patient, and I still lose 38% of my trips. (More fun than work. A lot of the time I'm on autopilot.)
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April 25th, 2015 at 6:30:21 PM permalink
AOS, thank you for this thread. It has been fun to watch how you came back and have a great trip and be ready for the next.
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April 25th, 2015 at 7:04:41 PM permalink
Quote: mason2386

EVEN.... it is so simple, you plan a trip to Vegas to have fun, maybe make a little money and be entertained. If you can do all of that for a few days and not cost you any money.... Then EVEN is the best place to be.




Exactly---plus-having been down so much, getting back to even, to me, is an accomplishment
My trip reports have always contained status updates on whether I am up/down/even -- I like to keep track and people seem to enjoy my trip reports so why mess with a good thing?
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April 25th, 2015 at 7:05:12 PM permalink
Quote: mason2386

And if you gain some great stories and memories, EVEN = AHEAD.




Good point - memories as well - I am not gambling 24/7
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April 25th, 2015 at 7:06:19 PM permalink
Quote: mason2386

AOS, thank you for this thread. It has been fun to watch how you came back and have a great trip and be ready for the next.



You are most welcome

Just had some dinner at the Shake Shack after braving the rain

Going to digest and then hit the tables :-)
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April 25th, 2015 at 7:11:16 PM permalink
I don't know that it is about the money won or lost but what we experience while using the money to provide us the opportunity to have some fun away from the everyday life. But damn it feels good we we come up even or ahead in whatever way you choose to measure it.
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April 25th, 2015 at 9:19:48 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

This post is above my pay grade


Thank you. I like to think it's below/above that of any here.
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April 25th, 2015 at 9:36:29 PM permalink
Post-dinner session of double deck
Dealt natural 20 on the first three hands and the dealer made 21 each hand
Switched tables and the first three hands were doubles:

7,3 v dealer 9 (drew a 9 dealer turned over an Ace)
5,5 v dealer 5 (drew a 6 dealer turned over 9 and drew a 4)
6,3 v dealer 4 (drew a King dealer turned over a 7 then drew a Queen)

The roller coaster kicked in and after another shuffle was down 1k

Dealer change and a shuffle and within 2 shuffles got it back

Trip is even
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April 25th, 2015 at 10:30:03 PM permalink
Just lost 2k in half a shoe dealer had 20 90% of the hands
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April 25th, 2015 at 11:21:45 PM permalink
Over the course of the last hour I did not get my first 20 until 55 minutes in
I was down 3500 and made a last minute run


Trip is once again -2k


Somewhere EvenBob is smiling
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April 25th, 2015 at 11:43:40 PM permalink
Very sad, tuned in to see a huge win! Somehow my keyboard clicked on youtube and another lawyer getting arrested for 'borrowing' client funds was just posted. Sad, very sad. Good luck to the max, cheers, win lots!
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April 26th, 2015 at 12:11:46 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


Somewhere EvenBob is smiling



I'm just puzzled why you didn't quit
at even for the day. Shrug..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 26th, 2015 at 12:49:23 AM permalink
Got a very nice run and was able to get 3k back in one shoe


Trip is -1k
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April 26th, 2015 at 12:49:46 AM permalink
Quote: Seriouslyfunny

Very sad, tuned in to see a huge win! Somehow my keyboard clicked on youtube and another lawyer getting arrested for 'borrowing' client funds was just posted. Sad, very sad. Good luck to the max, cheers, win lots!







So you've been on here a couple of days, know I'm an attorney, and link to attorney gambling items...This is beyond transparent
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:27:49 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

So you've been on here a couple of days, know I'm an attorney, and link to attorney gambling items...This is beyond transparent



Next he'll tell you he gets no Schaden from your being down after getting back to even.
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:11:55 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades


Somewhere EvenBob is smiling



I'm just puzzled why you didn't quit
at even for the day. Shrug..



He was even before he got on the airplane. Do you have a point?
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:29:58 AM permalink
Why quit if he has the advantage? The MGM double deck game is about as good as it gets. No back off worries. The question is does he have the advantage? Where's our sim guy?
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:35:54 AM permalink
There are only a few on here that attempt to manhandle and control, with numerous following those people. Others and many are very informative and cordial along with being non judgmental. The vid was only to garner attention to a wide spread problem with attorneys and gambling, since others widespread enjoyed your gambling losses. I, on the other hand rooted for you and sat down in front of an Indian good luck statue with incense burning at a local Indian restaurant and prayed for you to get even. After that it would be in your hands. I was actually happy and smiled when you became even, but as I 'fully disclosed' prior and post facto of 'even' would be on you. I did my part with no thanks, appreciation or request for anything. I still hope you can profit (as others said) more than you would if you directed your talents and drive into helping others 'un ruin' their derailed lives and life savings amongst spouse, spouse and attorney. Again, good luck and win $!
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April 26th, 2015 at 8:23:42 AM permalink
Quote: mason2386

And if you gain some great stories and memories, EVEN = AHEAD.


How about even=ahead when even=behind?

Quote: aceofspades

Somewhere EvenBob is smiling


What else can you ask for? Good sleep, with a good laugh in the morning.

Quote: 1BB

...Where's our sim guy?


How many AP's does it take to screw in a light bulb? I'm thinking: one to constantly miss the obvious; the other to write another treatise on it.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
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April 26th, 2015 at 10:41:59 AM permalink
Ok played a mini-session of double deck

Nothing to write home about except that finally had some give and take rather than all give


Trip is -650
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April 26th, 2015 at 11:27:27 AM permalink
Just lost 1k had 5 doubles dealer made 21 every time
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April 26th, 2015 at 1:30:57 PM permalink
Down 7k
Just lost every double but 2 in the past 2 hours
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April 26th, 2015 at 1:33:39 PM permalink
I would put a hole through a wall at aria if I were in your shoes.
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April 26th, 2015 at 1:57:08 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Down 7k
Just lost every double but 2 in the past 2 hours



Good thing you don't leave till Wednesday.

Oh, wait.. SIGH
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 26th, 2015 at 2:07:41 PM permalink
Just had to post this, been reading a while now. Judgment day, looks like we need a new lawyer, Lol. The part when she said, "i just creamed so hard" was over the top, yep-it could get worse.

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April 26th, 2015 at 2:12:21 PM permalink
Guy comes in mid shoe betting 1k a hand - wins 5 hands in a row and I lose all 5 hands
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April 26th, 2015 at 3:18:55 PM permalink
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Guy comes in mid shoe betting 1k a hand - wins 5 hands in a row and I lose all 5 hands



So you're down 9 grand? That was an hour ago.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 26th, 2015 at 3:39:35 PM permalink
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Guy comes in mid shoe betting 1k a hand - wins 5 hands in a row and I lose all 5 hands



Did the cat at least ask before he jumped in, hey hey?
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:16:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So you're down 9 grand? That was an hour ago.



Lost another 3 then got 2 back

Trip is -10
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:17:16 PM permalink
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Did the cat at least ask before he jumped in, hey hey?



Nope just happened to be walking by with his buddy and tossed the 1k chip in the betting circle - didn't even sit down
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:25:46 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Nope just happened to be walking by with his buddy and tossed the 1k chip in the betting circle - didn't even sit down

That's the supercool way to do it. Really casual, as if it's nothing more than change for a cup of coffee.
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April 26th, 2015 at 6:57:08 PM permalink
I'm going to bed so won't be checking this until morning. Good luck Ace!!

I rarely get on here over the weekend. I have tried to keep up with you so had to log in. I hope you've gotten it all back when I log in in the morning.

Kick their ass!
Stupid is a choice
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:11:08 PM permalink
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I'm going to bed so won't be checking this until morning. Good luck Ace!!

I rarely get on here over the weekend. I have tried to keep up with you so had to log in. I hope you've gotten it all back when I log in in the morning.

Kick their ass!




Sweet dreams
Just finishing dinner
Positive vibes
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:15:53 PM permalink
Quote: Seriouslyfunny

There are only a few on here that attempt to manhandle and control, with numerous following those people. Others and many are very informative and cordial along with being non judgmental. The vid was only to garner attention to a wide spread problem with attorneys and gambling, since others widespread enjoyed your gambling losses. I, on the other hand rooted for you and sat down in front of an Indian good luck statue with incense burning at a local Indian restaurant and prayed for you to get even. After that it would be in your hands. I was actually happy and smiled when you became even, but as I 'fully disclosed' prior and post facto of 'even' would be on you. I did my part with no thanks, appreciation or request for anything. I still hope you can profit (as others said) more than you would if you directed your talents and drive into helping others 'un ruin' their derailed lives and life savings amongst spouse, spouse and attorney. Again, good luck and win $!



It would appear to me that this post pretty much warned you? However, I might be wrong, nothing wrong with even. Why be greedy, those places were not built on winners. Good luck.
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:37:25 PM permalink
Your play has been incredible. -9. Even -10. What a wild-hold-on-to-your-hat-upchuck ride!!! And you've played aggressively at a high level. That's impressive. Don't have any visions that tell you to stand on 16 vs ace. Or was it soft 18 vs 10? Good luck tomorrow.
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April 26th, 2015 at 7:44:38 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Lost another 3 then got 2 back

Trip is -10



Only 7:40 in Vegas, the sun is still up. You
have another 5 hours at least.
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April 26th, 2015 at 8:23:27 PM permalink
Got a quick 2100 back - won the first 8 hands of a 6 deck shoe
Had gotten 2500 but played it out and lost a 200 double


Trip is -7900
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April 26th, 2015 at 8:24:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Only 7:40 in Vegas, the sun is still up. You
have another 5 hours at least.



Well, he doesn't seem despondent. Hopefully his feeling at one with his task and his journey. And he likes using the last two words from "My $200 Vegas Hooker" thread so he's comfortable.
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