VegACE Vega$ Vegas
October 7th, 2014 at 4:35:52 PM
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Well well well...here I am out of blackjack retirement...
Arrived earlier this afternoon...been relaxing after the stress of my chosen profession lately...
Just watching some tv...going to shower and tidy myself up and eventually hit the tables this evening...
I am sure I will be somewhat rusty but, should be just like riding a bike
As always, I hope my trip report can spark conversation and everyone can have a good time along with me (even you EvenBob)
If any forum members are around, let me know
Wish me luck! More posts to follow
Arrived earlier this afternoon...been relaxing after the stress of my chosen profession lately...
Just watching some tv...going to shower and tidy myself up and eventually hit the tables this evening...
I am sure I will be somewhat rusty but, should be just like riding a bike
As always, I hope my trip report can spark conversation and everyone can have a good time along with me (even you EvenBob)
If any forum members are around, let me know
Wish me luck! More posts to follow
October 7th, 2014 at 5:11:07 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesWish me luck!
May the odds be forever in your favor.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 7th, 2014 at 5:15:59 PM
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We are waiting with baited breath to live vicariously through you. Wishing you the very best of luck. Hang on to that Rolex. :-)
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
October 7th, 2014 at 5:16:35 PM
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As Al Davis once said (yea, don't look at the Raiders now)...Win Baby, just Win!
October 7th, 2014 at 5:26:35 PM
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Rock. It.
No ladies in red.
No rolex-snatchers (yes, I did mean it that way...;)
No bad shoes.
No ladies in red.
No rolex-snatchers (yes, I did mean it that way...;)
No bad shoes.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 7th, 2014 at 5:39:17 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsRock. It.
No ladies in red.
No rolex-snatchers (yes, I did mean it that way...;)
No bad shoes.
Not at Aria yet so the Lady in Red
As for the Rolex - left it in the care of my dad while I'm away
Hopping into the shower
October 7th, 2014 at 5:41:47 PM
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Good luck!!!
October 7th, 2014 at 5:41:51 PM
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Good luck!!! (The internet thought it was worth saying twice!)
October 7th, 2014 at 6:22:26 PM
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Quote: aceofspades
Hopping in the shower
Not a good idea, hopping in the shower
is how Michael Jackson injured his back.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 7th, 2014 at 6:45:46 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesNot at Aria yet so the Lady in Red
As for the Rolex - left it in the care of my dad while I'm away
Hopping into the shower
Sounds like GN DT. Why not check out your "friend" over at Mermaids. She may be gone but others have replaced her. Or La Bayou if you are really brave.
Or if Ace wants a really good time, walk back to Hogs and Heifers by DT Grand and Pizza Rock. Always a good time!
October 7th, 2014 at 6:50:11 PM
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Be careful ACE Really careful ! Ana Cumpănaș is in Las Vegas too.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
October 7th, 2014 at 6:58:33 PM
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Ok question:
If I have $125 in promo chips and they play til you lose...am I beter off playing blackjack or betting black and red at the same time (if allowed) -- wouldn't that guarantee me some winnings (unless every spin was 0 or 00) ?
If I have $125 in promo chips and they play til you lose...am I beter off playing blackjack or betting black and red at the same time (if allowed) -- wouldn't that guarantee me some winnings (unless every spin was 0 or 00) ?
October 7th, 2014 at 7:18:17 PM
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C'mon man...play $25 BJ and do your thing.
You read the thread where that drunk turned $300 into $300K.
You have skills..and you are due. Go for it.
You read the thread where that drunk turned $300 into $300K.
You have skills..and you are due. Go for it.
October 7th, 2014 at 7:20:07 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesOk question:
If I have $125 in promo chips and they play til you lose...am I beter off playing blackjack or betting black and red at the same time (if allowed) -- wouldn't that guarantee me some winnings (unless every spin was 0 or 00) ?
You're a BJ player.
You sound AP to me so BJ of course.
2nd choice Craps dark side.
I would never play promo chips against each other such as black and red.
Gamble them, you are in Vegas, its free money, GAMBLE.
Get lucky and win 125 in real chips. Unlucky, lose the 125.
Odds, 50 dollar profit if betting 25 chip at a time.
Arriving Downtown late Sat, next day may watch some Aceofspades BJ action :-)
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
October 7th, 2014 at 7:21:16 PM
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Ace, you have the non-negotiable chips just like real chips but you cannot cash out. (See https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/)
If you play Roulette, your ev is 125 x (100%-5.26%) = 118.425
If you play BlackJack, your ev is around 125 x (100% - 0.5%) = 124.38
If you play Roulette, your ev is 125 x (100%-5.26%) = 118.425
If you play BlackJack, your ev is around 125 x (100% - 0.5%) = 124.38
Leave Katie alone.
Rasul: Or what?
Or I come back and break your F** legs
October 7th, 2014 at 7:32:09 PM
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Play your game, Use them on D-Downs.
October 7th, 2014 at 8:21:30 PM
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Good luck ACE, looking forward to reading the reports.
October 7th, 2014 at 8:34:27 PM
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Are you really at GN? I'm staying downtown. Just ate at Oscar's.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 7th, 2014 at 9:30:03 PM
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You're playing BJ anyways. Why go play a worst EV game just take it back to BJ? its worth the full value to you on BJ, unless you're never going to play BJ agian.Quote: aceofspadesOk question:
If I have $125 in promo chips and they play til you lose...am I beter off playing blackjack or betting black and red at the same time (if allowed) -- wouldn't that guarantee me some winnings (unless every spin was 0 or 00) ?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 7th, 2014 at 9:37:43 PM
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They would never allow it on roulette, to bet
both sides at once. They might take you out
back just to teach you a lesson.
both sides at once. They might take you out
back just to teach you a lesson.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 7th, 2014 at 10:16:24 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabs
No rolex-snatchers (yes, I did mean it that way...;)
No bad shoes.
Strange. I interpreted the "Hang on to your Rolex" as meaning "Don't Pawn It" rather than avoid ladies of the evening. Of course the reality nowadays is that they only go for the Rolex after the guy is too "out of it" to notice much less do anything about it.
Remember Hard Eight: If you want to win in Vegas, you have to look good. (Never mind they filmed that scene about cleaning up the guy while in Reno, not Vegas). Before the cops made me give up my shine box because I had no business license, I used to call out about "attracting" good Black Jack Shoes with well-polished shoes. I'd even call out to Flip Flop wearers "No problem, I can shine your feets'. Got some laughs but not enough tips.
As to the "promotional, non-cashable" chips, its only those who get casino mailers who should ever try to launder the chips for a guaranteed win. A professional gambler who is in the process of getting back on the horse should just go ahead and play them, no hedges, no hems, no haws, no songs, no dances. Just suck up the courage and hit that hard eighteen!
October 7th, 2014 at 11:14:48 PM
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Ok here is the trip report for the first day as I am jet lagged and heading to bed.......
So I wired some front money to the casino cage and signed for it before playing ... All was supposedly good
I walk over to the high limit and ask for a black chip game, with which they happily obliged me
I tell them I want chips and the lady says there is no money on file for me...
I looked quizzically at the floor person and she asked me to "stand-by"
I waited about 5 minutes before I was informed there was an "issue" and someone from the cage would be over to talk with me
After another 5 minutes the cage manager came over and asked for the cage receipt she had given me
Upon closer inspection, they had multiplied my actual cage deposit by ten and therefore had voided the transaction
Wow talk about a short-lived windfall!!! After the mixup, I took 1k in chips and began playing
The highlights from my one hour of play were as follows:
2D, DAS, DOA, H17
Played the promo chips on double downs and won the first three of those
Over the first 5 shuffles the dealer had an Ace up 5 times and nary a blackjack to be found
I was able to press on a few occasions, this worst among them being
(A)200 up dealt a 6-5 v dealer 10 -- double and get dealt a 5 for a 16 -- dealer only had a 17
(B)200 up dealt a 5,5 v dealer 4 -- double and get a king -- dealer has 4, turns over 7, draws a 2, draws a 2, draws a 6
After that I got on a couple of nice runs but became too tired to keep playing
Trip is +2000 as I head to bed
Sweet dreams
So I wired some front money to the casino cage and signed for it before playing ... All was supposedly good
I walk over to the high limit and ask for a black chip game, with which they happily obliged me
I tell them I want chips and the lady says there is no money on file for me...
I looked quizzically at the floor person and she asked me to "stand-by"
I waited about 5 minutes before I was informed there was an "issue" and someone from the cage would be over to talk with me
After another 5 minutes the cage manager came over and asked for the cage receipt she had given me
Upon closer inspection, they had multiplied my actual cage deposit by ten and therefore had voided the transaction
Wow talk about a short-lived windfall!!! After the mixup, I took 1k in chips and began playing
The highlights from my one hour of play were as follows:
2D, DAS, DOA, H17
Played the promo chips on double downs and won the first three of those
Over the first 5 shuffles the dealer had an Ace up 5 times and nary a blackjack to be found
I was able to press on a few occasions, this worst among them being
(A)200 up dealt a 6-5 v dealer 10 -- double and get dealt a 5 for a 16 -- dealer only had a 17
(B)200 up dealt a 5,5 v dealer 4 -- double and get a king -- dealer has 4, turns over 7, draws a 2, draws a 2, draws a 6
After that I got on a couple of nice runs but became too tired to keep playing
Trip is +2000 as I head to bed
Sweet dreams
October 8th, 2014 at 12:27:17 AM
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Good start. Sweet dreams indeed.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 8th, 2014 at 12:33:24 AM
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Quote: aceofspades
Trip is +2000 as I head to bed
I'm sensing much schadenfreude to come.
Vegas is the best for that. Ahhhhhhhh.......
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2014 at 8:16:42 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesAfter that I got on a couple of nice runs but became too tired to keep playing
Trip is +2000 as I head to bed
Sweet dreams
Ace is back, yes! A great start to the trip. How long are you going to be in Vegas? Keep the wins coming (and maybe a few pictures too?) =)
Quote: EvenBobI'm sensing much schadenfreude to come.
Hi Bob. We've never shared messages, but after reading every thread in the blackjack forum, you're a fairly intelligent AP, but I think I hate you. That is all :).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
October 8th, 2014 at 11:02:19 AM
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Pics from yesterday:
October 8th, 2014 at 11:07:29 AM
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More pics
October 8th, 2014 at 11:17:13 AM
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Are you a Van Halen fan? I noticed in the room picture that the brown M&Ms have been removed. :-) Yes, I know the story behind it.
I can never get enough pictures. Keep them coming!
I can never get enough pictures. Keep them coming!
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
October 8th, 2014 at 11:18:05 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesMore pics
For some reason, just got a craving for fried oreos and fried twinkies :-)
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
October 8th, 2014 at 11:44:05 AM
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Quote: aceofspadesPics from yesterday:
Ahhhh...FijiWater on arrival. They love you, Ace, they really love you!
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 8th, 2014 at 11:56:30 AM
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Quote: 1BBAre you a Van Halen fan? I noticed in the room picture that the brown M&Ms have been removed. :-) Yes, I know the story behind it.
I can never get enough pictures. Keep them coming!
It's all about attention to detail lol
October 8th, 2014 at 11:57:47 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: aceofspadesPics from yesterday:
Ahhhh...FijiWater on arrival. They love you, Ace, they really love you!
Sally Field would be proud :-)
I'm just getting up and getting ready for the day - I needed a long night's sleep
October 8th, 2014 at 12:37:55 PM
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Always love your trip reports. Go get 'em, Ace!
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
October 8th, 2014 at 12:45:07 PM
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Any plans to see if El Cortez will back you off for using SC ?
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
October 8th, 2014 at 12:49:09 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesI'm just getting up and getting ready for the day - I needed a long night's sleep
Hope you're well rested and ready to attack!
Quote: RaleighCrapsAny plans to see if El Cortez will back you off for using SC ?
Ace, you must follow suit and spread 100-500 at either their single or double deck games =P. I have no doubts you'll get backed off or flat betted lol. Should make for a great story! Pics if possible hah.
...Real piece of advice. First time you raise your bet, do so in a negative count. When new players come in and raise their bet the first time the PB will thumb the discards. Go from 100 to 300 on the 2nd hand if it's negative, then do your regular thing (100-500, SC, right?).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
October 8th, 2014 at 2:19:43 PM
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Quote: RomesHope you're well rested and ready to attack!
Ace, you must follow suit and spread 100-500 at either their single or double deck games =P. I have no doubts you'll get backed off or flat betted lol. Should make for a great story! Pics if possible hah.
...Real piece of advice. First time you raise your bet, do so in a negative count. When new players come in and raise their bet the first time the PB will thumb the discards. Go from 100 to 300 on the 2nd hand if it's negative, then do your regular thing (100-500, SC, right?).
I will give it a go before I head home!
October 8th, 2014 at 2:21:28 PM
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Schaden, where's my fix. Was the 2nd
place setting for the Lady in Red?
place setting for the Lady in Red?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2014 at 2:22:12 PM
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where are you staying? Did you say?
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
October 8th, 2014 at 2:34:35 PM
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I just went to the Mob Museum and was trying to post the photos I took but tinypic.com is having technical issues so that will have to wait...
Off to the tables!
Off to the tables!
October 8th, 2014 at 3:09:45 PM
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Alright alright alright...
Played 2D game again
Had a nice few shuffles and picked up another 1200
Trip is +3200
More interesting though was the guy leaving the table as I sat down
A dealer recognized me and said "Hey the divorce attorney is back" - so the guy leaving the table begins asking me what different Latin phrases meant - I tried to be accommodating then the floor person rolled his eyes and laughed--
It turns out the guy has been buying in for $5k CASH
playing until he is +200 then coloring in
Then, within 10 minutes, coming back and buying in for $5k cash again
Having just come from the Mob Museum I jokingly asked the floorperson of he was laundering money
He replied that security has already checked that angle out and that it seemed that they guy merely liked coming in with the same $5k cash
I wonder how many CTR's he will get
Is there any valid reason for doing this on his part? Higher cash buy-in for more comps?
Played 2D game again
Had a nice few shuffles and picked up another 1200
Trip is +3200
More interesting though was the guy leaving the table as I sat down
A dealer recognized me and said "Hey the divorce attorney is back" - so the guy leaving the table begins asking me what different Latin phrases meant - I tried to be accommodating then the floor person rolled his eyes and laughed--
It turns out the guy has been buying in for $5k CASH
playing until he is +200 then coloring in
Then, within 10 minutes, coming back and buying in for $5k cash again
Having just come from the Mob Museum I jokingly asked the floorperson of he was laundering money
He replied that security has already checked that angle out and that it seemed that they guy merely liked coming in with the same $5k cash
I wonder how many CTR's he will get
Is there any valid reason for doing this on his part? Higher cash buy-in for more comps?
October 8th, 2014 at 3:30:16 PM
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Quote: GWAEwhere are you staying? Did you say?
Check the logo on the ribbon in the picture of the room.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
October 8th, 2014 at 3:44:38 PM
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Quote: 1BBCheck the logo on the ribbon in the picture of the room.
He's staying at the Aria yet they use a GN ribbon?
Confusing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 8th, 2014 at 4:06:40 PM
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I am enjoying a hot tea while I play since the air conditioning seems to be on overdrive
Played for about 20mins had a real bad run at first
(A) 9-2 v dealer 6 double for a 17 dealer turns over Ace and draws another 18
(B) 8,3 v dealer 6 double for 20 dealer turns over 5 and draws a Queen
Then the doubles got better:
(A) Ace, 5 v dealer 4 double for 16 dealer turns over a 3 then draws a 7 then a 10 BUST
(B) Ace, 3 v dealer 5 double for 20 dealer turns over Jack then draws a Jack BUST
Got on a nice run and climbed back to my buy-in and then a few extra
Taking a break to get a snack
Trip is +3500
Played for about 20mins had a real bad run at first
(A) 9-2 v dealer 6 double for a 17 dealer turns over Ace and draws another 18
(B) 8,3 v dealer 6 double for 20 dealer turns over 5 and draws a Queen
Then the doubles got better:
(A) Ace, 5 v dealer 4 double for 16 dealer turns over a 3 then draws a 7 then a 10 BUST
(B) Ace, 3 v dealer 5 double for 20 dealer turns over Jack then draws a Jack BUST
Got on a nice run and climbed back to my buy-in and then a few extra
Taking a break to get a snack
Trip is +3500
October 8th, 2014 at 4:14:25 PM
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Quote: EvenBobHe's staying at the Aria yet they use a GN ribbon?
Confusing.
If he was at the Aria he would not be playing H17.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
October 8th, 2014 at 5:16:36 PM
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Thanks for the report so far. Keep the details and pics coming. Interesting about the 5K guy... Seems very strange.
October 8th, 2014 at 5:38:51 PM
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Sat down for a post-snack session
Things started off horrifically - it seemed as if the dealer made 21 at will
Meanwhile, at the next table, in the span of a half-hour, the 5k guy came and went three times (I wonder what he is up too?)
My host stopped by and we BS'd for a little bit while I was playin when, lo and behold, I had climbed back to my buy-in
Trip is still +3500
Things started off horrifically - it seemed as if the dealer made 21 at will
Meanwhile, at the next table, in the span of a half-hour, the 5k guy came and went three times (I wonder what he is up too?)
My host stopped by and we BS'd for a little bit while I was playin when, lo and behold, I had climbed back to my buy-in
Trip is still +3500
October 8th, 2014 at 5:50:47 PM
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Ace I thought on one of your other trips you didn't like staying downtown. Or was that on your horrible trip so that was the reason?
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
October 8th, 2014 at 6:03:48 PM
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Quote: GWAEAce I thought on one of your other trips you didn't like staying downtown. Or was that on your horrible trip so that was the reason?
That was when I found out they H17 but I got over it :)
I am actually digging the vibe down here
October 8th, 2014 at 6:07:02 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesSat down for a post-snack session
Things started off horrifically - it seemed as if the dealer made 21 at will
Meanwhile, at the next table, in the span of a half-hour, the 5k guy came and went three times (I wonder what he is up too?)
My host stopped by and we BS'd for a little bit while I was playin when, lo and behold, I had climbed back to my buy-in
Trip is still +3500
Egads. You are concentrating on some weirdo who buys in every five minutes or something for five grand. Whatever is us with this character, its not even taking place at YOUR table... yet you are obviously focused on it.
Sounds like your host and his chit chat with you brought you back to reality and got you focused on your own table for a change.
