Showing burn cards on mini-bacc
January 17th, 2012 at 9:41:25 PM
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I'm an experienced TG supervisor at a new casino. One of our largest competitors is currently allowing the players to see the burn cards on mini-bacc. Our mgt staff has said we will not do this. This got me curious. I did some looking on the wizard of odds. This particular topic was not addressed but he did spend some time showing how a bacc shoe could not effectively be counted. I would hate to see our new casino lose play over something of little to no consequence. I could use a second opinion or a link to a credible source on this topic.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
January 17th, 2012 at 10:00:37 PM
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The initial N cards are required to be shown in New Jersey. See NJ mini-bacc rules, 19:47-7.5 (f).
What's management's concern about it? Game speed, protection, something else? PM me if you want to talk via phone; I'm in the industry too.
What's management's concern about it? Game speed, protection, something else? PM me if you want to talk via phone; I'm in the industry too.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
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January 17th, 2012 at 11:08:03 PM
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Protection. I'm sure somewhere someone thought if a player knows which cards have been burned he is suddenly going to have some super-secret advantage in all subsequent play.Quote: MathExtremistWhat's management's concern about it? Game speed, protection, something else?
I don't think players would revolt at this but its an idiotic thing to even consider doing.
January 17th, 2012 at 11:56:31 PM
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At Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, they also show the burn cards on mini-bacc.
January 18th, 2012 at 9:32:12 PM
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In my travels I've found that far fewer than 10% of casinos will expose the burn cards in Baccarat. Today I play mostly in Louisiana. In the area I play most often, only 2 casinos will expose the burn cards. I've never heard of anyone causing them serious concern. One of the 2 also has the deep cut card (-14 from the end of the shoe plus one hand). So when a shoe finishes there are times that only 3 cards are not exposed out of the 416.
Usually the pit critters are more concerned about the side bet and someone betting the $100 max and hitting the 30x payoff. Smaller casinos tend to sweat the money more often. It's easy to sense when they have a much greater paranoia.
Personally, I like seeing the burn the cards. Would I switch casinos only because of the exposing burn cards alone? Probably not. But if there were 2 or 3 or 4 reasons to switch, adding one more (trivia) item to the list would not help your casino.
Usually the pit critters are more concerned about the side bet and someone betting the $100 max and hitting the 30x payoff. Smaller casinos tend to sweat the money more often. It's easy to sense when they have a much greater paranoia.
Personally, I like seeing the burn the cards. Would I switch casinos only because of the exposing burn cards alone? Probably not. But if there were 2 or 3 or 4 reasons to switch, adding one more (trivia) item to the list would not help your casino.
