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December 4th, 2011 at 2:02:37 PM permalink
I got mix injformation on whether Pai Gow Poker is patented or not. Is it? There seems to have a flock of Blackjack side bets, but not any Pai Gow Poker's, except for Fortune (?). Is it because Pai Gow Poker is patented? Any exciting side bets for PGP somewhere?
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December 4th, 2011 at 2:18:36 PM permalink
As I understand it, the game itself is not. There is some sad story behind the inventor never applying for a patent, but I don't recall the details. However, the side bets are likely at least patent pending. Much like blackjack is a common domain game, that does stop anybody from filing for patents on side bets and variants of the game.
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December 4th, 2011 at 3:18:14 PM permalink
The basic game of Pai Gow poker and the common side bets are not patented, and are public domain.
Two major "brands" of Pai Gow Poker are branded by copyrights and trademarks, namely Fortune Pai Gow and Emperor's Challenge.
Some specific mechanisms and their resulting brands for Pai Gow Poker variants are patented: Pai Gow Mania, Pai Gow Thrill, and EZ Pai Gow.
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December 4th, 2011 at 4:27:11 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

The basic game of Pai Gow poker and the common side bets are not patented, and are public domain.
Two major "brands" of Pai Gow Poker are branded by copyrights and trademarks, namely Fortune Pai Gow and Emperor's Challenge.
Some specific mechanisms and their resulting brands for Pai Gow Poker variants are patented: Pai Gow Mania, Pai Gow Thrill, and EZ Pai Gow.

Thanks for the clarification. What do U mean by "common side bets"? Fortune Pai Gow and Progressive Pai Gow have Shuffle Master all over them....
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December 4th, 2011 at 4:46:29 PM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Thanks for the clarification. What do U mean by "common side bets"? Fortune Pai Gow and Progressive Pai Gow have Shuffle Master all over them....




I'm guessing Paigow insurance, and the bets on getting all cards in one color.
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:21:41 PM permalink
Common side bets for PGP that are public domain:
1. Bonus bet (three of a kind or better)
2. Pai Gow insurance (Ace-high or less)
3. Red or Black bet (simple bet that a majority of your cards are red or black, like roulette, but not the Jokolor bet).

ALL commercial versions or brands of Pai Gow poker have a bonus bet offering and a pai gow insurance offering under their own trademarks, not just "Fortune."

Proprietary side bet:
1. Queen's Dragon bet. (A player bet that the dealer will have a certain pai Gow hand.)
2. Certain progressive betting systems based on the underlying technology.

Remember that you can also protect or brand a game with trademarks and copyrights: "Fortune,' "Emperor's Challenge", etc.
Also remember that each new offering - whether or not it is public doman, or protected by trademarks, or protected by patents, etc., still need to be approved by gaming jurisdictions and their approval authorities, presenting another layer of protection, in the sense that a capital investment is required.
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October 26th, 2015 at 4:14:40 AM permalink
Yes!!
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October 26th, 2015 at 6:58:37 AM permalink
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Yes!!


That's an interesting take on a thread that's been dormant for almost four years, care to elaborate a little?
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October 26th, 2015 at 9:08:58 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

That's an interesting take on a thread that's been dormant for almost four years, care to elaborate a little?



Just means spam is coming soon. 2 meaningless posts to long dead threads.


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October 26th, 2015 at 2:37:41 PM permalink
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Just means spam is coming soon. 2 meaningless posts to long dead threads.


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Yeah, I've seen both. Definitely a spammer set-up. Buh-bye.
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