3 New Table Games

Three of my table games are now on trial in UK (Grosvenor Casinos). July 15th 2011:
I invites comments, suggestions for improvement indeed any feedback.


Roulette Link-Bets®: A simple amendment to the conventional Roulette layout to allow split and corner bets across numbers in the first and third columns, which would otherwise not be possible because they are not adjacent.


Lucky Draw Baccarat®: A game that combines the basic rules of Punto Banco with the game format of Blackjack.


Hybrid Triple-Bet®: The game is unusual in consisting of three separate wagers, for effectively three separate games but played during the same hand.

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To be honest Stephen, I found the game to be confused and the different names for each bet also confusing.
I would have preferred Match Play to Sandwich And Block Bet ?? And why discard 2 cards and start all over?
Destroys the feeling of continuity. Have you considered a Hold'em Poker payout for the third bet and just adding
a third card to the 2 on board and allowing a player to make a holdem hand with his 2 cards. This might allow a
degree of anticipation to a player with a good starting hand. Absolutely no idea of a paytable and how to simply flush
or match bets, but would prefer them to ante, pair-plus, etc. used on other games. Got a feeling you have sleepless
nights already with your constant flow of ides. Happy Dreams

Quote: buzzpaff

I would have preferred Match Play to Sandwich And Block Bet ?? And why discard 2 cards and start all over?
Destroys the feeling of continuity. Have you considered a Hold'em Poker payout for the third bet and just adding
a third card to the 2 on board and allowing a player to make a holdem hand with his 2 cards. This might allow a
degree of anticipation to a player with a good starting hand. Absolutely no idea of a paytable and how to simply flush
or match bets, but would prefer them to ante, pair-plus, etc. used on other games. Got a feeling you have sleepless
nights already with your constant flow of ides. Happy Dreams

Dear buzzpaff,
thanks for the feedback.
I am assuming you are talking about:

Hybrid Triple-Bet®: The game is unusual in consisting of three separate wagers, for effectively three separate games but played during the same hand.

I used the names: Sandwich nd Block Bet, because they are already being used as my side bets for blackjack.
You might notice the game is consists of three side bets for blackjack (individually they are a side bet for blackjack).

It didn't say discard 2 cards and start all over.
It says (discards the two Flop cards. The Dealer then deals one card, face up, in front of the float tray).

I can't use a Poker payout for the third bet, because this is a multideck shoe game and it would be countable too.

by the way, I do have a single deck variation with poker payouts (Hybrid Triple-Bet® 3c).

Reference your Roulette Link Bets, how easy is it for croupiers to clear the layout of losing chips given the position of this new strip?

Quote: THESWEENEY

Reference your Roulette Link Bets, how easy is it for croupiers to clear the layout of losing chips given the position of this new strip?

Hmmm...

At first glance, I would say it doesn't hinder a dealer's action of clearing the layout at all.


On second thought, I think it needs a second Dolly Marker. Whenever the result is column 1, place it on the duplicate number in column 4. This would be an aide to prevent clearing any of these new splits/corners bets that are winners.

It therefore becomes a second obstacle to be avoided when sweeping losing chips.

Yeah, I do think it may slow the game down slightly whenever the result is in column 1/4.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Hmmm...

At first glance, I would say it doesn't hinder a dealer's action of clearing the layout at all.


On second thought, I think it needs a second Dolly Marker. Whenever the result is column 1, place it on the duplicate number in column 4. This would be an aide to prevent clearing any of these new splits/corners bets that are winners.

It therefore becomes a second obstacle to be avoided when sweeping losing chips.

Yeah, I do think it may slow the game down slightly whenever the result is in column 1/4.

I think the most expeditious route would be to treat it like a Racetrack bet. As in "34 red", dolly the number, then remove any winning 34/36 splits to 34/35 on the traditional layout, and clear as normal.

Quote: THESWEENEY

I think the most expeditious route would be to treat it like a Racetrack bet. As in "34 red", dolly the number, then remove any winning 34/36 splits to 34/35 on the traditional layout, and clear as normal.

Hi THESWEENEY,

Yes, this is the way to clear the Roulette Link Bets layout.
We had the game on exhibition and the dealer find it very easy to clear the layout of losing chips given the position of the new strip.


Roulette Link-Bets®: A simple amendment to the conventional Roulette layout to allow split and corner bets across numbers in the first and third columns, which would otherwise not be possible because they are not adjacent.

I have seen a game in ameristar kansas city called no commission baccarat is this one new. And how the house gets its advantage on the banker bet is it pushes any third card 7 total banker win for bets on banker side. That is the only adjustment to the regular baccarat game there is. I was wondering what the house advantage on banker would be

As you know I have played and like the Lucky Draw Baccarat in Reading et al.

However recently they put into two of the roulette additional split layouts as tables 5 and 6 in Southampton. As I don't go there often at weekends I haven't yet seen it played.

fwiw there's a useful site (for instance http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/qilin.html ) which has a list of new games that are being trialled in the UK.

Thanks for the info Charliepatrick,

There is now 20+ Casinos (70+ tables) in UK using Roulette Link-Bets®.


A few more Casinos is add Lucky Draw Baccarat® in the UK.
It is now approve in Australia and it is played live in Sydney (Star-City Casino).


Casino Hold'em® is doing very well too. Worldwide for the last 10+ years (700+ On-Line and 150+ Live Casinos). Play Demo



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10+ tables Lucky Draw Baccarat®.


150+ tables Roulette Link-Bets®.



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The Lucky Draw Baccarat is a very clever bet (the main bet).
The player gets to choose his action, draw a 3th card or stand on 2 cards unlike normal bacarrat.
The player bets on his hand, unike normal bacarrat where he can bet on banker.
There is no commission.
Dealer draws 3rd card upto 4 and stands from 5 and more.
Tied hands push.
The player can stand on 2 cards with ante bet or draw 3rd card and make another draw bet equal to ante bet.
If the player wins with 2 cards he wins 1 ante.
If player wins with drawing 3rd card, he wins ante bet and wins draw bet 1:1 if his hand is 6 or less and wins more than 1:1 if his hand is 7,8,9
( one pay schedule is 1.5:1 for7, 2:1 for 8 and 3:1 for 9).

Looking at the rules, I could not figure out where the house advantage comes from. (and my math skills are quite decent).
The rules seem quite simple and at least the same for player and dealer (dealer uses fixed strategy to draw 3rd card and player can follow the same or whichever most advantageous he finds). Tied hands push and there is no comission. And the player gets paid more for winning hands of 7,8,9.
In normal baccarat, banker and player play with different fixed strategy which makes the banker bet more favourably and the HE on player bet is because of that, and the HE on banker bet comes from the commission.
So if the player can at minimum copy dealer strategy, it seems the player and dealer hands will come up with same probability but player gets paid more when he draws 3 card and gets 7,8,9.
It puzzled me, as for sure the above indicate a player advantage on the game which cannot be the case.

And then it hit me where the HE come from. The dealer does not have to risk the draw bet when he draws, but only when the player draws 3rd card.
It only seems that the dealer and player have the same drawing options, they do not. The player has to risk more when he draws, the dealer not.

I think this game is very cleverly designed mathematically wise and gives the impression to the average player that the odds are on his side.

Some of the house edge comes because most the time, unless you are dealt a good hand, you will draw another card. So with good starting hands you have 1 unit bet, and on bad hands (which sometimes remain bad) you have 2 units bet. Also if you have a natural you only win one unit (as you normally don't draw another card) whereas if the dealer makes a 9 you probably have lost two units. This is compensated a little by your lucky 9s winning paying 4 units (1 + 3/1).

When Mr. Casino games is dead, shot by a jealous husband when he is 108, I think at the autopsy ,when they cut his brain open, little carnival games will fall
out all over the morgue floor. LOL

Quote: AceTwo

The Lucky Draw Baccarat® is a very clever bet.

Looking at the rules, I could not figure out where the house advantage comes from. (and my math skills are quite decent).
The rules seem quite simple and at least the same for player and dealer (dealer uses fixed strategy to draw 3rd card and player can follow the same or whichever most advantageous he finds). Tied hands push and there is no comission. And the player gets paid more for winning hands of 7,8,9.
In normal baccarat, banker and player play with different fixed strategy which makes the banker bet more favourably and the HE on player bet is because of that, and the HE on banker bet comes from the commission.
So if the player can at minimum copy dealer strategy, it seems the player and dealer hands will come up with same probability but player gets paid more when he draws 3 card and gets 7,8,9.
It puzzled me, as for sure the above indicate a player advantage on the game which cannot be the case.

And then it hit me where the HE come from. The dealer does not have to risk the draw bet when he draws, but only when the player draws 3rd card.
It only seems that the dealer and player have the same drawing options, they do not. The player has to risk more when he draws, the dealer not.

I think this game is very cleverly designed mathematically wise and gives the impression to the average player that the odds are on his side.

Thanks for your comments on the game.

Quote: charliepatrick

Some of the house edge comes because most the time, unless you are dealt a good hand, you will draw another card. So with good starting hands you have 1 unit bet, and on bad hands (which sometimes remain bad) you have 2 units bet. Also if you have a natural you only win one unit (as you normally don't draw another card) whereas if the dealer makes a 9 you probably have lost two units. This is compensated a little by your lucky 9s winning paying 4 units (1 + 3/1).

That is a nice way of explaining were the house edge come from, for Lucky Draw Baccarat®.

Roulette Link-Bets® Professional. The New Design of Roulette Link-Bets® Played Live 150+ Tables in UK, (Started 2011).
I invites comments, suggestions for improvement indeed any feedback.

Link-Bets Pro Roulette-Layout offers Split and Corner betting between numbers in the first and third columns, which would otherwise not be possible because they are not adjacent.

Betting combinations now available include: Link-Splits, Link-Corners and Colour-Threesomes (Colour related group selections).

e.g. (a) Link-Splits 7-9, 19-21.
e.g. (b) Link-Corners 10-12-13-15, 25-27-28-30.
e.g. (c) Colour-Threesomes-Red [Red 1 to 6] = 1-3-5, [Red 7 to 12] = 7-9-12.
e.g. (c) Colour-Threesomes-Black [Black 1 to 6] = 2-4-6, [Black 7 to 12] = 8-10-11.

150 + Tables in UK ? Congratulations, Stephen
Here in the colonies we have a saying " If it ain't broke, don't fix it "

Thanks Buzz,

I see what you mean.

The Roulette Link-Bets® Professional is just a little upgrade to the Roulette Link-Bets®, so to make it more attractive and complete.

Fine tuning a finished product is the mark of a excellent tradesman. But I still can't do a damn thing with chips, no matter how many times I watch you on you-tube. LOL

This Lucky Draw Baccarat is being introduced at my local UK casino next month, I'm gathering all the info I can. Can't say I'm impressed by the 5.32% HE on the block bonus side bet, nor the HE on the main game, to be enticed from the normal game.

No doubt there will be many dealer mistakes along the way when they finally open the table, like they did when they first trialled "Casino War", during the first hour, if you the player went to war and won, were paid 2-1.

I saw it live in Manchester for quite a while. Personally I thought it better to use the fairer paytable, it would have also been easier to payout 2/1, but they chose the one paying 6/4 for 3-card 7s. Also they had someone who liked the game and also played the sidebet - but suspect in the end the high House Edge was too much. Very few players played the correct strategy, the typical mistake seemed to be buying a card too often.

This story seems to prove how a reasonable game, with an attractive side-bet that makes enough money for the casino, can be ruined by having a rip-off pay-table on the base game. It was a unique selling point for that particular casino in the city and, if I recall, they had a low starting bet of £1.

Here is the rack card


PS Please could you PM with the casino as if it's near me (I'm down south but sometimes go to away football matches) might try and see it in action - thanks.

Quote: CyrusV

This Lucky Draw Baccarat is being introduced at my local UK casino next month, I'm gathering all the info I can.

Hi CyrusV,

Lucky Draw Baccarat® is one of my New Table Games.

Below are all the info on this game:

1. Math Analysed at: wizardofodds.com.
Block bonus side-bet at: wizardofodds.com.

2. Basic Strategy and EORs at: discountgambling.net

3. UK approved Table-Games at: ukcasinotablegames.info
Block bonus UK approved at: ukcasinotablegames.info.

4. TCS-JohnHuxley: How to Play Guide. / Infomation Sheet.

5. My website: NewTablegames.com.

Played Live in: Australia, Queensland Treasury Casino and UK Grosvenor Casinos.

Hi charliepatrick,

Thanks for your input on my Lucky-Draw Baccarat®.

Will you be coming to the UK G-Casinos New table Games showcase this year in OCT?

Thanks MrCasinoGames, yep already across all those links.

Quote: charliepatrick

I saw it live in Manchester.
Here is the rack card


PS Please could you PM with the casino as if it's near me (I'm down south but sometimes go to away football matches) might try and see it in action - thanks.

Hi charliepatrick,

According to the schedules from Grosvenor Casinos, Lucky Draw Baccarat® will be introduced:
1. In Grosvenor Casino Leo, Liverpool UK in SEP.
2. In Grosvenor Casino Princes, Glasgow, Scotland, UK in OCT.

P.S. Lucky Draw Baccarat® is also play in Australia, Queensland, Treasury Casino and Hotel (more then 3 years).