Roulette Revolution
July 21st, 2011 at 4:26:04 PM
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The non-manned roulette machine, "Roulette Revolution" has been shut down at the Ameristar Kansas city for about two weeks now. The rumors are that due to an inherent glitch, the manufacturer has shut the machines down nationwide indefinitely. Anybody know anything about this? You think they will pay anyone back who can prove they played the machine?
July 21st, 2011 at 5:37:28 PM
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I know nothing about any such glitch but feel that it is most likely that a casino started losing money on it and thats how the glitch was noticed.
July 21st, 2011 at 7:02:21 PM
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Ameristar is a ruthless operation. It's a pretty sure bet they took losses and are not happy....
July 21st, 2011 at 7:40:12 PM
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Its Roulette Evolution, and they sometimes have overheating issues and take weeks to fix while they wait for parts.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 21st, 2011 at 8:02:51 PM
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I got to test one of these machines in its early phases and it had so many glitches that it was laughable. I didn't test the final version, but it must have been much more solid than what I tested.
I heart Crystal Math.
July 21st, 2011 at 8:11:01 PM
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They are probably just waiting for parts.
July 21st, 2011 at 8:11:48 PM
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Last year a local casino had theirs down for a month. They're
getting better, but they run 24/7 and have a zillion moving parts.
getting better, but they run 24/7 and have a zillion moving parts.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 21st, 2011 at 10:20:41 PM
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The first day it was in operation, it gave the same number about 6 times in a row and had to be shut down for 24 hours.
July 21st, 2011 at 10:28:22 PM
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Wait, you're talking about the IGT system? The same one that's in the MGM and Mandalay Bay?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 21st, 2011 at 10:32:20 PM
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No, the ones at MGM, Bellagio, Monte Carlo, and Mirage are the ones called, "Organic Roulette".
July 21st, 2011 at 10:35:56 PM
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It is the IGT system and your pic looks accurate
July 21st, 2011 at 10:37:10 PM
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I know about those, those are from Interblock. But the last time I was in Vegas the MGM and Mandalay both had the IGT machines too. They were hard to miss -- they looked like the consoles from the Starship Enterprise (The Next Generation, not the original). Are they gone now? Perhaps they were removed for the same reason...
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 21st, 2011 at 10:46:22 PM
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My understanding was Vegas only had the RNG
versions of Evolution, not the real wheel version.
The RNG setups never screw up, no moving parts.
versions of Evolution, not the real wheel version.
The RNG setups never screw up, no moving parts.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 21st, 2011 at 11:06:08 PM
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Quote: EvenBobMy understanding was Vegas only had the RNG
versions of Evolution, not the real wheel version.
The RNG setups never screw up, no moving parts.
Aha -- you're saying the interaction between the physical wheel and the software was buggy, then? That's not a good sign. There were at least six vendors at G2E last year with automatic physical wheel roulette games, primarily from eastern Europe and Asia. This isn't a market that IGT should be dropping the ball in because, unlike almost everything else, they are not the market leader in this segment. Keyser, if you have more information, I'd be very interested in learning it.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 26th, 2011 at 2:08:08 AM
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No real evidence, I heard thru the grapevine that the glitch was that if you pulled your bet just a nanosecond after it announced "NO MORE BETS" that it would take your bet away and pay you on what you would have won anyhow.
July 26th, 2011 at 2:25:45 AM
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Ah yes, the old "refresh rate" programming glitch. That caused a few deaths when it was a glitch in the programming of an x-ray machine. Caused a few casino losses at the roulette table too, it seems. One guess as to which got the more prompt corrective action.Quote: JuniorWizNo real evidence, I heard thru the grapevine that the glitch was that if you pulled your bet just a nanosecond after it announced "NO MORE BETS" that it would take your bet away and pay you on what you would have won anyhow.
July 27th, 2011 at 12:00:22 AM
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The Therac-25 machines from Canada. Classic case study in safety-critical software programming
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
July 29th, 2011 at 2:22:00 PM
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I have been told the machine is back in operation at the Ameristar KC. I would guess down time was about 3 weeks.
July 29th, 2011 at 2:23:18 PM
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They probably reprogrammed the refresh rate so the game is a wee bit slower but far less costly to them.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:47:05 PM
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Its in every casino in my area, 6 casinos. Its hard
to get a seat and some have gone from 8 positions
to 12. Notice the screen is double sided, they can
set up another 8 seats if they want.
to get a seat and some have gone from 8 positions
to 12. Notice the screen is double sided, they can
set up another 8 seats if they want.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
