No Commission EZ Bac @ the Bicycle Casino Bell Gardens

I love the site and hope to love the forums soon. So, Quick question for everyone. I don't know the math behind the game. But, as there is a 1.235% and they also have Dragon bet where the Bank wins the tie. What would be the combined odds for betting the bank everyhand w/ the Dragon bet and 0% commission. I'd assume around 1.2xx%, and go on to my next question. As there is now a player advantage of 1.2xx%, and I can get my table fee down to 1%. Isn't there a mathematical advantage in my favor of 0.2xx%. And if this is so, would I not have a better edge than the casino at baccarat by betting only the bank at this casino? Thanks for the advice and help all.

don't get bank confused with "the house" , not one and the same in baccacrat

Bankers Hand and Players Hand have historical significance but neither represents the house and could just as well be named North and South.

The payout for Player is 20:20.
The payout for Banker is 19:20 paid out as 20:20 but with a lammer indicating a later five percent commission will be taken.

ANY other sloganizing about No Commissions means they are going thru rigamarole and lying. Anyone who offers no commision baccarat without making some sort of rule changes would soon go bankrupt.

Flea -

There a difference between "No commission" and "No commission EZ Baccarat".

It works just like PaiGowDan's EZ Pai Gow game: There is one specific hand that doesn't show up often, that is normally a winner for the banker, but on the EZ table, it pushes.

Specifically, it's the three card total of 7 points - the same result is named a Dragon, and for which there is a side bet available.

For more info: EX Baccarat Summary.

It looks like the OP is suggesting a combination of banker and dragon bets, thinking it results in a player advantage. The OP is not factoring in the ridiculously high house edge on the dragon bet.

Could be. But now that I think about it, I think he's forgetting about the banker push, which restores the house edge.

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Could be. But now that I think about it, I think he's forgetting about the banker push, which restores the house edge.

No, I was not talking about combo betting the dragon and bank. I was just talkin bout betting the bank side. But, it has been cleared up beautifully by all of the post. I did not know that dragon pushes instead of wins. This makes a big difference.

Thanks for all the help

Quote: DJTeddyBear

There is one specific hand that doesn't show up often, that is normally a winner for the banker, but on the EZ table, it pushes. Specifically, it's the three card total of 7 points - the same result is named a Dragon, and for which there is a side bet available.

Is this the equivalent of charging a commission every now and then when this "not often" event occurs? If so, should people simply play short baccarat hands? ...
Or if the three card equaling seven points takes place, should they continue playing since its not likely to take place again right away?

Fleastiff,
it is the equivelant of "generating a house edge," regardless of the method: Commission (Baccarat), player busts hand first (BJ), dealer doesn't qualify and doesn't pay the PLAY bet (3CP), Dealer doesn't pays ANTE bet on less than a straight (Texas Hold 'em Bonus) etc.

The winning seven-point 3 cards for banker occurs approximately once in every 43 hands on average.
The occurence may repeat on the next hand, or you may go 300 more hands without seeing it repeat.

The game performs better because the dealer does not have to fumble with a commission, and because you don't have to settle-up if you played banker.
You don't get told after playing, "Oh, you STILL owe us commission money..."