Pai gow poker fully wild edge?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
Quote: Runlikegod777Hi, California pai gow is no commission, and the joker is fully wild (can be used for any card not just straight/flush/aces) PLayers can take the bank, what would house edge be banking this game?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
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I dont think it changes the house edge on the basic game. The Dealer can get the joker as easily as a player. It would definitely change side bet odds and that would have to be modified. Someone smarter than me can figure that out based on the pay table being used.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Quote: Runlikegod777Hi, California pai gow is no commission, and the joker is fully wild (can be used for any card not just straight/flush/aces) PLayers can take the bank, what would house edge be banking this game?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
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I dont think it changes the house edge on the basic game. The Dealer can get the joker as easily as a player. It would definitely change side bet odds and that would have to be modified. Someone smarter than me can figure that out based on the pay table being used.
ZCore13
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so is it around 1.2 percent? it doesn't get higher since when bank has joker helps them more?
Quote: Runlikegod777Quote: Zcore13Quote: Runlikegod777Hi, California pai gow is no commission, and the joker is fully wild (can be used for any card not just straight/flush/aces) PLayers can take the bank, what would house edge be banking this game?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
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I dont think it changes the house edge on the basic game. The Dealer can get the joker as easily as a player. It would definitely change side bet odds and that would have to be modified. Someone smarter than me can figure that out based on the pay table being used.
ZCore13
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so is it around 1.2 percent? it doesn't get higher since when bank has joker helps them more?
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This question is moot. You would need an entirely new ‘house way’.
Once the new house way is determined, and assuming the players played optimally, the ‘full’ joker would help the player and house equally.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Runlikegod777Quote: Zcore13Quote: Runlikegod777Hi, California pai gow is no commission, and the joker is fully wild (can be used for any card not just straight/flush/aces) PLayers can take the bank, what would house edge be banking this game?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
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I dont think it changes the house edge on the basic game. The Dealer can get the joker as easily as a player. It would definitely change side bet odds and that would have to be modified. Someone smarter than me can figure that out based on the pay table being used.
ZCore13
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so is it around 1.2 percent? it doesn't get higher since when bank has joker helps them more?
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This question is moot. You would need an entirely new ‘house way’.
Once the new house way is determined, and assuming the players played optimally, the ‘full’ joker would help the player and house equally.
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The OP says that the game exists in California, so one need only observe the gameplay (or ask) to learn the existing house way.
Realistically, the most significant changes in player strategy would likely be with the rules on 2 pair -when you split them versus keeping them together in the 5-card hand. That's because what was formerly the dealer's one pair hands with a joker (and no natural ace) in the kickers will always convert to a strong 2 pair hand with the fully wild joker. It will incentivize player to keep the two pair in the 5-card hand slightly more often, I think.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Runlikegod777Quote: Zcore13Quote: Runlikegod777Hi, California pai gow is no commission, and the joker is fully wild (can be used for any card not just straight/flush/aces) PLayers can take the bank, what would house edge be banking this game?
For house way you can use the foxwoods standard way or anything similar.
link to original post
I dont think it changes the house edge on the basic game. The Dealer can get the joker as easily as a player. It would definitely change side bet odds and that would have to be modified. Someone smarter than me can figure that out based on the pay table being used.
ZCore13
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so is it around 1.2 percent? it doesn't get higher since when bank has joker helps them more?
link to original post
This question is moot. You would need an entirely new ‘house way’.
Once the new house way is determined, and assuming the players played optimally, the ‘full’ joker would help the player and house equally.
link to original post
The OP says that the game exists in California, so one need only observe the gameplay (or ask) to learn the existing house way.
Realistically, the most significant changes in player strategy would likely be with the rules on 2 pair -when you split them versus keeping them together in the 5-card hand. That's because what was formerly the dealer's one pair hands with a joker (and no natural ace) in the kickers will always convert to a strong 2 pair hand with the fully wild joker. It will incentivize player to keep the two pair in the 5-card hand slightly more often, I think.
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Think deeper. You will face (and get) way more full houses. But the same amount of straights or flushes. So there will be a pair in the two card hand more frequently. Weakening your AK, as an example. The dealer will have fewer Aces in the two card hand. A pair of deuces with a joker/queen/10, as an example, turns into 3 deuces with a queen/10, not a pair of deuces with as ace/queen. So many more examples but my finger hurts already.
