chongjasmine
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July 27th, 2023 at 5:15:09 PM permalink
Which money management is better? Martini or reversed martini?
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July 27th, 2023 at 5:26:36 PM permalink
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Which money management is better? Martini or reversed martini?
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July 27th, 2023 at 5:58:22 PM permalink
Reverse is more fun without any doubt. Regular you are just risking your whole bankroll to win back your original bet, reverse you are risking just your bet to win more than your bankroll (or whatever you are going for.)

Reverse simply gives more opportunities for an adrenaline rush (and the feel of a "jackpot" type win). If by better you mean more fun, I do not think there is a contest. Neither will change the house edge of a game or long-term results.

Try both, and see which you enjoy more, but I would guess: regular will just feel like a grind, and reverse will give you multiple highs per session. I am a huge proponent of reverse for recreation because I feel that it will cause more positive experiences (as in fun and rushes, not in long-term winning.)
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July 28th, 2023 at 4:21:02 AM permalink
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Reverse is more fun without any doubt. Regular you are just risking your whole bankroll to win back your original bet, reverse you are risking just your bet to win more than your bankroll (or whatever you are going for.)

Reverse simply gives more opportunities for an adrenaline rush (and the feel of a "jackpot" type win). If by better you mean more fun, I do not think there is a contest. Neither will change the house edge of a game or long-term results.

Try both, and see which you enjoy more, but I would guess: regular will just feel like a grind, and reverse will give you multiple highs per session. I am a huge proponent of reverse for recreation because I feel that it will cause more positive experiences (as in fun and rushes, not in long-term winning.)
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I'm inclined the opposite way. Reverse means watching a pretty constant stream of small losses. But effect on bankroll and profitability ends up the same.
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July 28th, 2023 at 6:48:15 AM permalink
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reverse.
keep doubling down from your 1st win.
quit when the pitboss no longer raises the table limit.
especially roulette. pick lucky '000.' you just need 3 double ups then hookers and blo for lyfe.

you can do it. i kno you can
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July 28th, 2023 at 8:11:42 AM permalink
I used to end my BJ sessions with a reverse Marty. If it were a friendly table, I'd announce my plan to let my bet ride five times and then I was done. I think I won out twice, maybe three times in several hundred opportunities, but it was a fun way to lose $5.
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July 28th, 2023 at 8:20:55 AM permalink
Always play Banker they said...but I played Player this time.
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July 28th, 2023 at 10:50:50 AM permalink
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2 ounces dry vermouth · 1 ounce gin · Garnish: Olive or lemon twist ...

too much vermouth in the reversed version, but for money management, they might charge less for it
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July 28th, 2023 at 12:33:13 PM permalink
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2 ounces dry vermouth · 1 ounce gin · Garnish: Olive or lemon twist ...

too much vermouth in the reversed version, but for money management, they might charge less for it
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Friend, that seems like a lot of vermouth.
(And... perfect would be half dry, half sweet vermouth, and it makes a huge difference.)
May the cards fall in your favor.
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July 28th, 2023 at 1:00:52 PM permalink
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Which money management is better? Martini or reversed martini?
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2 ounces dry vermouth · 1 ounce gin · Garnish: Olive or lemon twist ...

too much vermouth in the reversed version, but for money management, they might charge less for it
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Friend, that seems like a lot of vermouth.
(And... perfect would be half dry, half sweet vermouth, and it makes a huge difference.)
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to be clear, that's the recipe for a reverse martini, while a regular martini is two to one gin to vermouth [a dry martini 6 to one , very dry 'just a splash of vermouth'] ... these recipes according to google 'people also ask'

Very dry is the way I like them. Anymore, I never have two
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July 28th, 2023 at 1:02:53 PM permalink
I never tried a perfect martini

I do like perfect Manhattans over other versions
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July 28th, 2023 at 1:32:03 PM permalink
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to be clear, that's the recipe for a reverse martini,
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How did I miss that it was reversed?
The ratio might work, but I think you may need 2 jiggers of gin, 2 jiggers of dry, and 2 jiggers of sweet. Even reversed, the minimum amount of gin... it's not a French 75, after all.
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July 28th, 2023 at 4:59:02 PM permalink
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Reverse is more fun without any doubt. Regular you are just risking your whole bankroll to win back your original bet, reverse you are risking just your bet to win more than your bankroll (or whatever you are going for.)

Reverse simply gives more opportunities for an adrenaline rush (and the feel of a "jackpot" type win). If by better you mean more fun, I do not think there is a contest. Neither will change the house edge of a game or long-term results.

Try both, and see which you enjoy more, but I would guess: regular will just feel like a grind, and reverse will give you multiple highs per session. I am a huge proponent of reverse for recreation because I feel that it will cause more positive experiences (as in fun and rushes, not in long-term winning.)
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I'm inclined the opposite way. Reverse means watching a pretty constant stream of small losses. But effect on bankroll and profitability ends up the same.
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I can't really disagree as this comes down to personal preference and what one finds mentally fun. I just think the rushed that come from reverse and a good streak provide more opportunities for some adrenaline rushes.

I will say initially "discovering" regular martingale gives you the initial rush of feeling like you struck gold with something so simple you can't believe nobody else has found (until reality sets in after more research and bad sessions.) But, this is probably something you have to feel from discovering it from actual play and not reading about it online first.
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