Dobrij
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January 24th, 2023 at 12:43:20 PM permalink
Hi 2 ALL !
I apologize if this question has been raised before, if yes please link me.


The QUESTION:
How much advantage the gambler gets if in UTH before opens flop, will know with a probability ~33%, one of the cards
?!?
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aceside
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January 24th, 2023 at 2:10:58 PM permalink
I guess Dr Eliot has researched this. He is here. However, I believe you will get a lot more advantage if you know any information about the dealerís hole cards.
Dobrij
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January 24th, 2023 at 2:48:53 PM permalink
Quote: aceside

I guess Dr Eliot has researched this. He is here. However, I believe you will get a lot more advantage if you know any information about the dealerís hole cards.
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At the moment there is only information one of 3 flop cards. Do you have info about advantage
?!?
aceside
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January 24th, 2023 at 3:10:28 PM permalink
I donít know but can estimate it. This little information should easily flip the house edge to the favor of the player.
Hunterhill
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January 24th, 2023 at 3:32:05 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Quote: aceside

I guess Dr Eliot has researched this. He is here. However, I believe you will get a lot more advantage if you know any information about the dealerís hole cards.
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At the moment there is only information one of 3 flop cards. Do you have info about advantage
?!?
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I believe itís in the 3% range
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
SOOPOO
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January 24th, 2023 at 4:14:12 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Hi 2 ALL !
I apologize if this question has been raised before, if yes please link me.


The QUESTION:
How much advantage the gambler gets if in UTH before opens flop, will know with a probability ~33%, one of the cards
?!?
link to original post



33% chance to know rank AND suit or just rank? Meaning you think it is the 5 of spades and it will be the 5 of spades 33% of the time, but it is just as likely to be the 5 of clubs or the 9 of diamonds? In the real world if you can glimpse a card you are not likely to confuse a jack with a 6, but more likely to confuse a jack with a king.
Dobrij
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January 24th, 2023 at 7:55:53 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: Dobrij

Hi 2 ALL !
I apologize if this question has been raised before, if yes please link me.


The QUESTION:
How much advantage the gambler gets if in UTH before opens flop, will know with a probability ~33%, one of the cards
?!?
link to original post



33% chance to know rank AND suit or just rank? Meaning you think it is the 5 of spades and it will be the 5 of spades 33% of the time, but it is just as likely to be the 5 of clubs or the 9 of diamonds? In the real world if you can glimpse a card you are not likely to confuse a jack with a 6, but more likely to confuse a jack with a king.
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In 33% of cases I will know a specific card, face value and suit
Hunterhill
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January 24th, 2023 at 9:26:52 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: Dobrij

Hi 2 ALL !
I apologize if this question has been raised before, if yes please link me.


The QUESTION:
How much advantage the gambler gets if in UTH before opens flop, will know with a probability ~33%, one of the cards
?!?
link to original post



33% chance to know rank AND suit or just rank? Meaning you think it is the 5 of spades and it will be the 5 of spades 33% of the time, but it is just as likely to be the 5 of clubs or the 9 of diamonds? In the real world if you can glimpse a card you are not likely to confuse a jack with a 6, but more likely to confuse a jack with a king.
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In 33% of cases I will know a specific card, face value and suit
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In that case I think you will have around a .75-1% edge
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Dobrij
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January 25th, 2023 at 2:46:28 AM permalink
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In that case I think you will have around a .75-1% edge
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Is this a total end hand advantage EV = +1%? Or additional to the optimal -2% + 1% = -1%?

How did you calculate it, or did you take it out of your head?
Hunterhill
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January 25th, 2023 at 5:33:26 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Quote: Hunterhill



In that case I think you will have around a .75-1% edge
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Is this a total end hand advantage EV = +1%? Or additional to the optimal -2% + 1% = -1%?

How did you calculate it, or did you take it out of your head?
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I was going from memory, I just found it. If you know one flop card you have a 3.6 % edge on that hand. So if youíre only getting it 33% around 1.2 %
Itís in CAA
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